No offense, but you're so desperate to put people in a Trump box that you miss points entirely. Both sides of this issue are fishy. At this point I can't give either side the benefit of the doubt. Trump is an a-hole and the FBI has been politicized. I can wait until we get more evidence, a vague list of items taken doesn't it do it for me. I realize you're also desperate to crucify Trump. The greatest irony is that your claims of hypocrisy cut both ways.
dad is always willing to take gov official statements at face value and discount the rest. Any casual observer of the covid policies and how various agencies handled the dossier info would note that time and time again they misled or straight out lied to the public.
Even now we have seen lies.
FBI claimed they did not have the passports, implying they didn't take them. They did.
The WH has claimed they had no knowledge of what was going on. Turns out memos show they were involved.
The secret documents that the press and the Ds claim is the gotcha moment. A couple of things. All presidents take that type of info. If the gov has an issue over time they work it out. Further the President(s) can on their own declassify any document they want. They do not need approval. In the case of the documents at hand we dont know if T declassified them, or if not where they were in the process of turning them over (like what happens with other Presidents). So just because the FBI produces a list of things it took and says some are secret...we at this point do not know the actual details behind them.
There are some reports out today based on emails that the current admin told the archives department that they would revoke T executive privilege which therefore opened the doors to the raid. There are a number of issues related to that, that are not good if true for the current admin.
Other reports are saying it was GSA staffers who packed the boxes that T had, and not his staffers.
In sum there is no slam dunk either way. Not enough details have come out to make a determination one way or the other.
That said in terms of the past number of years all the things reported telling us this time T is toast has led me to become VERY skeptical of that type of reporting. So I will wait till the facts come out.
Dad, Husker and Espola however like to believe whatever the gov has to say (their authoritarian side) and have already determined the guilt of Trump.
By the way, how is it that Ghislaine Maxwell was convicted for providing underage women for Esptein and his politically connected friends, and THAT list of people has never been leaked? Or why has the press not demanded that been leaked? She was found guilty of facilitating underage girls to men in power (so I assume the evidence was there), but we never got the names of the men she supplied them to? We get leaks every day from the FBI about what they found at Mar A Lago...but not a single leaked document about the men involved with the girls?
That is another reason I am skeptical of what gov has to say or leaks. It is all rather political in nature.
