I'm no attorney but I'm pretty sure in her 20+ years in the legal field that this is what the wife would refer to as a "slam-dunk".........
Maralago warrant and aftereffects --
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I'm no attorney but I'm pretty sure in her 20+ years in the legal field that this is what the wife would refer to as a "slam-dunk".........
Hüsker Dü
DA
Somethings are more obvious from a distance. I see you take trump’s word over all else, even at the possible detriment to national security. You people use to “back the blue” and “respect the flag”, now you beat police over the head with the flag while screaming about killing them, carry the flag of a defeated enemy through the Capitol building after storming it and now hope to out law enforcement of the highest accord in hopes of freeing your sacred cow . . . but yeah you’ll wait til that happens. How about let the criminal justice system do it’s work? A judge signed off on the warrant (the incident you refer to as a “raid”), the FBI carried it out, now it’s back in the courts hands. I haven’t heard crowds chanting lock him up without a proper trial, sound familiar?
Funny how their "duty to recover" took them how long to accomplish? So much for the "intelligence community."
Sounds more like a fishing expedition vs a recovery effort of Top Secret info that puts our country in great peril if placed in the wrong hands.
^^ Here's where a few of you..you know who you are..but I can point a few fingers if needed..here's where you run out of steam. You can keep posting your assumptions and posting your drivel.
@Lion Eyes is saying that if Trump broke the law..he should be prosecuted. I agree 100%. And now you morons run head-first into a wall. Nowhere to go. The wind out of your sails. I think you get the point..at least I hope. (Let me know @Hüsker Dü if you're having trouble with this one. @espola is usually a bit quicker to grasp what's being said.)
That's the difference between us and you. We believe if you break the law...and are found guilty...you should be prosecuted.
Whereas you morons give a free pass to HRC, Pelosi's DUI husband, Hunter Biden, and so on. Straight from the Democrat Playbook. Rules for thee-not for me. Act out of emotion without the benefit of intellect.
I could go on but what would be the point.......
I think we've already covered this ground but you obviously need a refresher. No surprise.
You're confusing the actions of a bunch of idiots on Jan. 6th vs the general ideology of those living within the rules of society. Are you going to sit there and call the 2020 Summer of Love a bunch of law-abiding citizens who were peacefully protesting? Except they were looting and burning down buildings everywhere. Be it a small business or a government building. The same protesters who showed up in major cities everywhere with pallets of bricks, rocks, etc to hurl at LE. <--That's Law Enforcement...not @Lion Eyes..don't want you getting confused again.
I know you and @espola ask for links to site info posted by others while you just spit conjecture on the daily. So here you go. And it's from what I'm sure is probably one of your daily go-to sites..not Breitbart..so you can be sure it's all fact-checked.
More than 700 officers injured in George Floyd protests across US
WASHINGTON — More than 700 law enforcement officers have been injured on the job during nationwide protests over the death of George Floyd — with nearly 300 of those among New York̵…
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I had a great talk with one of my coffee pals. Retired lawyer and hates t so much he throws out the law when I chat with him. He hates t so much, he finds t guilty as charged every time. When we talk Hunter, he say's it's all made up lies and that Hunter is the smartest lawyer ever, just like the Big Guy says. All 3 Branches have been used and abused and it's time we set up a new game, with new rules and where honesty and truth rules the planet.I think we've already covered this ground but you obviously need a refresher. No surprise.
You're confusing the actions of a bunch of idiots on Jan. 6th vs the general ideology of those living within the rules of society. Are you going to sit there and call the 2020 Summer of Love a bunch of law-abiding citizens who were peacefully protesting? Except they were looting and burning down buildings everywhere. Be it a small business or a government building. The same protesters who showed up in major cities everywhere with pallets of bricks, rocks, etc to hurl at LE. <--That's Law Enforcement...not @Lion Eyes..don't want you getting confused again.
I know you and @espola ask for links to site info posted by others while you just spit conjecture on the daily. So here you go. And it's from what I'm sure is probably one of your daily go-to sites..not Breitbart..so you can be sure it's all fact-checked.
More than 700 officers injured in George Floyd protests across US
WASHINGTON — More than 700 law enforcement officers have been injured on the job during nationwide protests over the death of George Floyd — with nearly 300 of those among New York̵…
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More quotes regarding the Siege/Raid at Mar a logo. Popcorn anyone?
“The record of the FBI in misleading courts in past Trump investigations is very much on the mind of many Americans.” Jonathan Turley, Constitutional Law Expert
“Legal Scholars are now questioning the role of the Biden White House in the Raid, and in the collection of materials that the former President should have been able to claim executive privilege over. People are incredibly upset, in fact outraged in many quarters, about this Raid at the home of the former President of the United States.” Kevin Corke, Fox & Friends
"The White House stated strongly that they were NOT INVOLVED, and knew absolutely nothing about, the political Witch Hunt going on with me, & that they didn’t know anything at all about the Break-In of Mar-a-Lago. This was strongly reiterated again & again. WRONG! Remember, these are the people who spied on my campaign, denied it, & got caught. Through the great reporting of John Solomon (Fake Pulitzer Prize?), documents reveal they knew everything, in fact led the charge - a political NO, NO!" t
“The record of the FBI in misleading courts in past Trump investigations is very much on the mind of many Americans.” Jonathan Turley, Constitutional Law Expert
“Legal Scholars are now questioning the role of the Biden White House in the Raid, and in the collection of materials that the former President should have been able to claim executive privilege over. People are incredibly upset, in fact outraged in many quarters, about this Raid at the home of the former President of the United States.” Kevin Corke, Fox & Friends
"The White House stated strongly that they were NOT INVOLVED, and knew absolutely nothing about, the political Witch Hunt going on with me, & that they didn’t know anything at all about the Break-In of Mar-a-Lago. This was strongly reiterated again & again. WRONG! Remember, these are the people who spied on my campaign, denied it, & got caught. Through the great reporting of John Solomon (Fake Pulitzer Prize?), documents reveal they knew everything, in fact led the charge - a political NO, NO!" t
No offense, but you're so desperate to put people in a Trump box that you miss points entirely. Both sides of this issue are fishy. At this point I can't give either side the benefit of the doubt. Trump is an a-hole and the FBI has been politicized. I can wait until we get more evidence, a vague list of items taken doesn't it do it for me. I realize you're also desperate to crucify Trump. The greatest irony is that your claims of hypocrisy cut both ways.
Pollo Elastico
BRONZE
dad is always willing to take gov official statements at face value and discount the rest. Any casual observer of the covid policies and how various agencies handled the dossier info would note that time and time again they misled or straight out lied to the public.
Even now we have seen lies.
FBI claimed they did not have the passports, implying they didn't take them. They did.
The WH has claimed they had no knowledge of what was going on. Turns out memos show they were involved.
The secret documents that the press and the Ds claim is the gotcha moment. A couple of things. All presidents take that type of info. If the gov has an issue over time they work it out. Further the President(s) can on their own declassify any document they want. They do not need approval. In the case of the documents at hand we dont know if T declassified them, or if not where they were in the process of turning them over (like what happens with other Presidents). So just because the FBI produces a list of things it took and says some are secret...we at this point do not know the actual details behind them.
There are some reports out today based on emails that the current admin told the archives department that they would revoke T executive privilege which therefore opened the doors to the raid. There are a number of issues related to that, that are not good if true for the current admin.
Other reports are saying it was GSA staffers who packed the boxes that T had, and not his staffers.
In sum there is no slam dunk either way. Not enough details have come out to make a determination one way or the other.
That said in terms of the past number of years all the things reported telling us this time T is toast has led me to become VERY skeptical of that type of reporting. So I will wait till the facts come out.
Dad, Husker and Espola however like to believe whatever the gov has to say (their authoritarian side) and have already determined the guilt of Trump.
By the way, how is it that Ghislaine Maxwell was convicted for providing underage women for Esptein and his politically connected friends, and THAT list of people has never been leaked? Or why has the press not demanded that been leaked? She was found guilty of facilitating underage girls to men in power (so I assume the evidence was there), but we never got the names of the men she supplied them to? We get leaks every day from the FBI about what they found at Mar A Lago...but not a single leaked document about the men involved with the girls?
That is another reason I am skeptical of what gov has to say or leaks. It is all rather political in nature.
Hüsker Dü
DA
You talk the talk you get lumped. Trump is the one that attempted to politicize the FBI and any other formally independent agency, you are just following suit.
T's worst enemies seem to be his own lawyers since they keep admitting key elements of the DOJ position while attacking the whole thing, when they are not actually caught lying. A case in point is the release of the full text of the NARA position paper about the documents, released to the public by t's legal team yesterday --
justthenews.com
Full text of National Archives letter to Trump on classified documents
Just the News has obtained the full text of the letter that the National Archives sent to former President Donald Trump requesting classified documents
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I know you hate t and you think he's an asshole. You have that right. But just because one is a complete jerk and asshole does not make him a criminal, right? Trump is the only President NOT to lead us into war. Nope, the only war t started was against those who run human trafficking. Once you see the Truth Watty, you will not think t was an asshole. You will be in awe of the the Great Trump and you will eat crow and humble pie. I can't wait for that day. If you don't eat this find pie, then it means that the psychopaths won and t was hiding top secret docs that the agents who knew all along that t was a spy for Putin. That was 6 years ago and these are the same agents. John Durham is investigating these same agents. Will you eat crow if your wrong about the Asshole?
Russian collusion...asshole.
Pollo Elastico
BRONZE
See there husker goes again. I assume he refers to when T wanted to fire Comey.
Turns out T was right on that one. Comey was playing games as the later evidence would show. See the IG report as just one element of that.
Getting rid of guys playing politics with the dossier is not the same as trying to politicize the department.
husker is just so partisan he cannot see or admit that.
These guys are something else. I know you think t is an asshole as does Watty. If the asshole broke the law, then he should serve the time. You also think if HRC, Dr. Fruad, Jeffrey, Billy and the rest of crew or anyone on that side broke the law they should serve time as well. A fair minded Lion with Eyes for the Truth you have been. I think we should all let the Truth come to light. If t turns out to be more righteous then we all thought, then we should thank him and all eat crow and humble pie together. Looking Glass is real.....lol
That makes you a pure partisan. Apparently, if your not apoplectic about Trump you are a pro-Trump. A mere dislike of him doesn't count. Got it.
Fifty one more reasons to question authority...
One of the most galling aspects of the Hunter Biden laptop saga is that the 51 former intelligence officials who played such a critical role in suppressing The Post’s stories and giving Joe Biden cover before the 2020 election have never been brought to account.
The “Dirty 51” lied by painting our stories as Russian disinformation in an Oct. 19, 2020, letter they signed and delivered to Politico five days after The Post exposé and three days before the final presidential debate of the election campaign.
They used the institutional weight of their powerful former roles to legitimize partisan political propaganda designed to smear The Post and everyone associated with the story and dissuade the rest of the media from looking deeper into the laptop.
The letter, titled “Public Statement on the Hunter Biden emails,” and signed by former CIA Directors John Brennan, Leon Panetta and Mike Hayden, former acting CIA Director Michael Morell, former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and other ex-spooks, claimed the material on Hunter’s hard drive “has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation,” although not one of them had seen it.
Their lie “probably affected the outcome” of the 2020 presidential race, as former Attorney General William Barr has said, describing the letter as “partisan hackery,” “baseless” and signed by “a coterie of retired intelligence officials who had lost their professional bearings.”
Yet they have never apologized or retracted their lie. In fact, when The Post contacted the group in March, after the New York Times belatedly acknowledged the laptop was real, some, like Clapper, doubled down.
One former CIA officer who signed the letter, John Sipher, boasted that he took “special pride in personally swinging the election away from Trump.”
“I lost the election for Trump?” wrote Sipher during a Twitter spat with a former Trump official. “Well then I [feel] pretty good about my influence.”
nypost.com
One of the most galling aspects of the Hunter Biden laptop saga is that the 51 former intelligence officials who played such a critical role in suppressing The Post’s stories and giving Joe Biden cover before the 2020 election have never been brought to account.
The “Dirty 51” lied by painting our stories as Russian disinformation in an Oct. 19, 2020, letter they signed and delivered to Politico five days after The Post exposé and three days before the final presidential debate of the election campaign.
They used the institutional weight of their powerful former roles to legitimize partisan political propaganda designed to smear The Post and everyone associated with the story and dissuade the rest of the media from looking deeper into the laptop.
The letter, titled “Public Statement on the Hunter Biden emails,” and signed by former CIA Directors John Brennan, Leon Panetta and Mike Hayden, former acting CIA Director Michael Morell, former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and other ex-spooks, claimed the material on Hunter’s hard drive “has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation,” although not one of them had seen it.
Their lie “probably affected the outcome” of the 2020 presidential race, as former Attorney General William Barr has said, describing the letter as “partisan hackery,” “baseless” and signed by “a coterie of retired intelligence officials who had lost their professional bearings.”
Yet they have never apologized or retracted their lie. In fact, when The Post contacted the group in March, after the New York Times belatedly acknowledged the laptop was real, some, like Clapper, doubled down.
One former CIA officer who signed the letter, John Sipher, boasted that he took “special pride in personally swinging the election away from Trump.”
“I lost the election for Trump?” wrote Sipher during a Twitter spat with a former Trump official. “Well then I [feel] pretty good about my influence.”
Justice coming for the ‘Dirty 51’ Hunter Biden laptop liars
The 51 former intelligence officials who attempted to thwart The Post’s exposé on Hunter Biden’s dirty business deals will be brought to justice, Miranda Devine writes.
nypost.com