Maralago warrant and aftereffects --

espola said:
That's not even close to what he said. That statement only makes sense if we understand that you are trying to hide your secret support of everything Trumpy.
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That's exactly what it says...to claim otherwise is to ignore the facts and highlights your hypocrisy...
 
dad4 said:
I must have missed the point where hrc summoned a mob to the capitol to stop certification of the 2016 results.
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Apples and oranges...
Both wrong, both should be held accountable.
To bad daddy's boy has me on ignore....not surprising...
 
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watfly said:
You're forgetting the Steele dossier and the FISA warrant. Weaponizing the FBI, or any government agency, is also an attack on democracy.

In addition to the fact that prominent democrats believe that Clinton "rigged" the 2016 Dem primary.
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The FBI had a duty to recover the stolen documents.
They got a warrant, and executed it. While there, they found top secret documents in Trump's mansion.

That's it. Everything else is you lot trying desperately to change the topic.
 
dad4 said:
The FBI had a duty to recover the stolen documents.
They got a warrant, and executed it. While there, they found top secret documents in Trump's mansion.

That's it. Everything else is you lot trying desperately to change the topic.
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We don't really know what they found or not.

We don't know if the documents they found were declassified by T when he was Prez. All Prez have final authority as to what they can and cannot classify.

You assume that what they have leaked to the press is accurate. I will remind you of all their little shenanigans done during the dossier with regards to Trump.

I don't trust anyone. I certainly based on how they acted during the dossier episode do not trust them.

So I will wait till all the facts come out before get excited one way or the other.

You on the other hand per usual take the gov agencies word at face value.
 
dad4 said:
The FBI had a duty to recover the stolen documents.
They got a warrant, and executed it. While there, they found top secret documents in Trump's mansion.

That's it. Everything else is you lot trying desperately to change the topic.
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No, its to point out your hypocrisy and mental gymnastics.

BTW, I was talking about the weaponization of the FBI with fraudulent documents (financed by Clinton) to pursue Trump related to Russia, but of course you know that and are just doing your usual twisting of my words.

As far as Maralago goes, and like I said before, I'm withholding any conclusions until they at least release the affidavit with minimal redactions.
 
dad4 said:
The FBI had a duty to recover the stolen documents.
They got a warrant, and executed it. While there, they found top secret documents in Trump's mansion.

That's it. Everything else is you lot trying desperately to change the topic.
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Like Dr. Fauci had a duty to tell us the whole truth and nothing but the truth about the Mask and Jabs and he lied to us.
 
watfly said:
No, its to point out your hypocrisy and mental gymnastics.

BTW, I was talking about the weaponization of the FBI with fraudulent documents (financed by Clinton) to pursue Trump related to Russia, but of course you know that and are just doing your usual twisting of my words.

As far as Maralago goes, and like I said before, I'm withholding any conclusions until they at least release the affidavit with minimal redactions.
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So you won’t accept anything short of outing agents and disclosing top secret information (which will never happen, there are adults in charge). How trump loving of you. If you can’t have your way burn it all! Burn it all to the ground!
 
Hüsker Dü said:
So you won’t accept anything short of outing agents and disclosing top secret information (which will never happen, there are adults in charge). How trump loving of you. If you can’t have your way burn it all! Burn it all to the ground!
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You have over the last number of years on the forum fallen for every latest T bombshell. And time and time again nothing came of it.

Maybe you should slow down and wait until the actual facts come out before rushing to judgement, like you usually do. After all the countless times the press told you the walls were closing in on T and nothing happened, maybe you should be a bit more skeptical of what the press "reports" on.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
So you won’t accept anything short of outing agents and disclosing top secret information (which will never happen, there are adults in charge). How trump loving of you. If you can’t have your way burn it all! Burn it all to the ground!
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Not remotely what I said, but if it makes you feel better about your position, then go ahead. I can see both sides of the coin.

I have opinions, but I prefer to wait for actual evidence before jumping to conclusions.
 
dad4 said:
Make your case for equivalency.

One person ran an improperly secured email server while serving as a government official.

The other took top secret records with him after he was no longer an official.

Seems pretty different to me. One was trying to do her government job. The other was stealing government documents after he lost his job.
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Are you really that gullible that you believe HRCs "you mean like wipe" ? And please, in detail, explain what "top secrets" President Trump took.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
So you won’t accept anything short of outing agents and disclosing top secret information (which will never happen, there are adults in charge). How trump loving of you. If you can’t have your way burn it all! Burn it all to the ground!
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wait, have they found something? are they waiting to disclose the smoking gun? Can't you see how dumb this all looks. Contrary to popular belief, many want trumpy to go down in flames. Unfortunately no one is smart enough to do it. Based on track record, any hotly anticipated smoking gun turns out to have been shooting blanks...
 
Multi Sport said:
Are you really that gullible that you believe HRCs "you mean like wipe" ? And please, in detail, explain what "top secrets" President Trump took.
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It was on the receipt the FBI agents signed when the FBI took the boxes back out of maralago.

Item 2A. Various Classified/TS/SCI documents. line 4 in the description of items below.

Either FBI agents were willing to commit perjury, or the documents removed had a “top secret” classification.

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Lion Eyes said:
Muahahahaha....improperly secured server"serving as a government official"....that was probably hacked.

During her tenure as United States Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton drew controversy by using a private email server for official public communications rather than using official State Department email accounts maintained on federal servers. Clinton's server was found to hold over 100 emails containing classified information, including 65 emails deemed "Secret" and 22 deemed "Top Secret". An additional 2,093 emails not marked classified were retroactively designated confidential by the State Department.

With regard to mishandling of classified information, Comey said, "there is evidence that they [Clinton and her team] were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information." The investigation found 110 emails that should have been regarded as classified at the time they were sent; another 2,000 emails were retroactively classified which means they were not classified at the time they were sent.[168][171] Comey said that "any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton's position, or in the position of those government employees with whom she was corresponding ... should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation

In May 2016, the Department's Office of the Inspector General Steve A. Linick released an 83-page report about the State Department's email practices.[57][58][59] The Inspector General was unable to find evidence that Clinton had ever sought approval from the State Department staff for her use of a private email server, determining that if Clinton had sought approval, Department staff would have declined her setup because of the "security risks in doing so."[57] Aside from security risks, the report stated that "she did not comply with the Department's policies that were implemented in accordance with the Federal Records Act."[60] Each of these findings contradicted what Clinton and her aides had been saying up to that point.[61][62][63] The report also stated that Clinton and her senior aides declined to speak with the investigators, while the previous four Secretaries of State did so.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_email_controversy
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I'm no attorney but I'm pretty sure in her 20+ years in the legal field that this is what the wife would refer to as a "slam-dunk".........
 
watfly said:
Not remotely what I said, but if it makes you feel better about your position, then go ahead. I can see both sides of the coin.

I have opinions, but I prefer to wait for actual evidence before jumping to conclusions.
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Somethings are more obvious from a distance. I see you take trump’s word over all else, even at the possible detriment to national security. You people use to “back the blue” and “respect the flag”, now you beat police over the head with the flag while screaming about killing them, carry the flag of a defeated enemy through the Capitol building after storming it and now hope to out law enforcement of the highest accord in hopes of freeing your sacred cow . . . but yeah you’ll wait til that happens. How about let the criminal justice system do it’s work? A judge signed off on the warrant (the incident you refer to as a “raid”), the FBI carried it out, now it’s back in the courts hands. I haven’t heard crowds chanting lock him up without a proper trial, sound familiar?
 
dad4 said:
The FBI had a duty to recover the stolen documents.
They got a warrant, and executed it. While there, they found top secret documents in Trump's mansion.
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Funny how their "duty to recover" took them how long to accomplish? So much for the "intelligence community."
Sounds more like a fishing expedition vs a recovery effort of Top Secret info that puts our country in great peril if placed in the wrong hands.
 
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