How’s the 2023-24 season going?

TeamDadJokes said:
Not to reopen our endless conversation about this topic, but it goes to my point that teams get boosted in rating playing weak teams when there is no cross bracket play. Top Hat at #2 in the country was exactly that come to fruition. The ratings work, but there’s still ways to manipulate those ratings.
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Since you re-opened it, that's not in fact what you said. You said that highly ranked teams sandbagged in lower tournaments to get high ratings, and you had many examples of it. You were able to demonstrate none - instead, you provided an example of how a good team playing down to get stronger results won't significantly affect their rating. TH isn't choosing weak tournaments (or strong tournaments) to develop or protect their rating. They (and everybody else) receive and adjust their rating based on their performance against their immediate opponents - and their opponent's rating. Going back 20+ games - TH is showing that their rating is/was a very good predictor of their performance, with no underperformance and only two overperformance over that stretch. As I stated above - and I believe we all agree - these first two games of this new season, against teams who are good but not great, call to question TH's current strength. If they continue to underperform, their rating will continue to descend - if these two games were anomalies that are soon forgotten, their rating will continue to match their expected performance over time.

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TeamDadJokes said:
Not to reopen our endless conversation about this topic, but it goes to my point that teams get boosted in rating playing weak teams when there is no cross bracket play. Top Hat at #2 in the country was exactly that come to fruition. The ratings work, but there’s still ways to manipulate those ratings.
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Looks like I was wrong before, the big TH tournament is this weekend. (I thought it occurred earlier this month)

Here's the G2010 schedule.

Schedules - NASA Tophat Girls Classic

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Keep an eye on the results + see if they sync with your expectations.
 
So with the season about to begin is there a big difference in comparison between DPL NPL and ECRL?
 
Hmm - something I saw last night still appears to be in that same state in the morning. I thought it would recalculate and normalize overnight, but this does still look weird.

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Just looking at the connected scores, it's hard to understand how it comes up with a 58 score - placing this team #1 in the country.
 
Ever since the coach changed on Surf they haven't been the same. They also lost 2 key midfielders so that could also have an impact this season.
 
SurfSupDude said:
Koge finally passed Surf. And this is before the SoCal Blues 2-0 win over Surf in the Blues Cup final.
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SuperSoccerStar said:
The Tophat national ranking is still absolutely hilarious
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With that finals game now loaded, Surf drops below TopHat as well. All teams #2, #3, #4 are within a few hundredths of a point, so the slightest movement in either direction can bump all of those around a bit over time. MVLA in #1 is more than a full goal ahead of #2, and isn't likely to be going anywhere anytime soon.

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RandomSoccerFan said:
With that finals game now loaded, Surf drops below TopHat as well. All teams #2, #3, #4 are within a few hundredths of a point, so the slightest movement in either direction can bump all of those around a bit over time. MVLA in #1 is more than a full goal ahead of #2, and isn't likely to be going anywhere anytime soon.

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San Diego Showcase we will see what’s up with them. League for them will tell nothing.
 
Code said:
Depends on the region you are asking about.
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Local southern California region. So Liverpool dominates DPL there was no NPL last year who dominated ECRL?
Blues and slammers dominate ECNL locally? I kinda been out of the loop....thanks
 
Lmsa said:
Local southern California region. So Liverpool dominates DPL there was no NPL last year who dominated ECRL?
Blues and slammers dominate ECNL locally? I kinda been out of the loop....thanks
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From standings at the end of last season (from oldest to youngest age group standings), Koge and Surf are tops in the Sonoran division
Koge - 1/1/1/3/3/2
Surf - 2/2/2/1/1/1
Blues - 3/3/6/2/2/3
Del Mar - 6/7/4/5/5/4

In Mojave, Legends is the top club with Beach second
Legends - 3/3/1/1/1/5
Beach - 1/2/2/3/2/2
Eagles - 5/7/5/2/3/1
Slammers - 8/1/3/4/4/4
LAFC - 4/5/4/8/8/3
 
WillJohn said:
From standings at the end of last season (from oldest to youngest age group standings), Koge and Surf are tops in the Sonoran division
Koge - 1/1/1/3/3/2
Surf - 2/2/2/1/1/1
Blues - 3/3/6/2/2/3
Del Mar - 6/7/4/5/5/4

In Mojave, Legends is the top club with Beach second
Legends - 3/3/1/1/1/5
Beach - 1/2/2/3/2/2
Eagles - 5/7/5/2/3/1
Slammers - 8/1/3/4/4/4
LAFC - 4/5/4/8/8/3
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This is a 2010 forum....
 
Lmsa said:
Local southern California region. So Liverpool dominates DPL there was no NPL last year who dominated ECRL?
Blues and slammers dominate ECNL locally? I kinda been out of the loop....thanks
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Not really sure how a single team is relevant to how leagues compaire to each other. The Southwest ECRL dosen't really have a club/team that dominates league play like Liverpool does in DPL. The GOATS and Unicorns are playing in the ECNL; this kind of prevents superteams in the ECRL. With the exception of 2 or 3 weak teams in the ECRL Southwest, just about every matchup I watched could have went either way last year. 90% of games seem to be within 2GD. Beach was consistantly strong throughout the year, and came out on top in playoffs, but I wouldn't say they dominated. Same at Finals, strong, but gamesbwithin 1GD.
 
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