How’s the 2023-24 season going?

It's certainly not a strong showing at the beginning of this new season. Drawing with Carolina, just a day after Carolina lost to a team ~#400 in the US, isn't an emphatic endorsement of how capable TH 2010G may be. Both game results were well below expectations (as shown), and if it continues as the season progresses - their rating will continue to adjust to the new performance level.
 
Oh look. TH finally had a chance to "smack around" some of their local ECNL teams. I do believe TH is a really good team, but also agree they have a very small amount of cross-league/cross-region play compared to most teams. I know the screen shot was already posted, but it left out the interesting contrast in performance between GA Summer Showcase (vs GA teams), and Dicks Invitational (vs ECNL teams). I also suspect that if they played some of the top 30 ECNL teams there would be a serious eye opener; we are looking at results from ECNL teams ranked 49th and 142nd.
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RandomSoccerFan said:
It's certainly not a strong showing at the beginning of this new season. Drawing with Carolina, just a day after Carolina lost to a team ~#400 in the US, isn't an emphatic endorsement of how capable TH 2010G may be. Both game results were well below expectations (as shown), and if it continues as the season progresses - their rating will continue to adjust to the new performance level.
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Not to reopen our endless conversation about this topic, but it goes to my point that teams get boosted in rating playing weak teams when there is no cross bracket play. Top Hat at #2 in the country was exactly that come to fruition. The ratings work, but there’s still ways to manipulate those ratings.
 
TeamDadJokes said:
Not to reopen our endless conversation about this topic, but it goes to my point that teams get boosted in rating playing weak teams when there is no cross bracket play. Top Hat at #2 in the country was exactly that come to fruition. The ratings work, but there’s still ways to manipulate those ratings.
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Since you re-opened it, that's not in fact what you said. You said that highly ranked teams sandbagged in lower tournaments to get high ratings, and you had many examples of it. You were able to demonstrate none - instead, you provided an example of how a good team playing down to get stronger results won't significantly affect their rating. TH isn't choosing weak tournaments (or strong tournaments) to develop or protect their rating. They (and everybody else) receive and adjust their rating based on their performance against their immediate opponents - and their opponent's rating. Going back 20+ games - TH is showing that their rating is/was a very good predictor of their performance, with no underperformance and only two overperformance over that stretch. As I stated above - and I believe we all agree - these first two games of this new season, against teams who are good but not great, call to question TH's current strength. If they continue to underperform, their rating will continue to descend - if these two games were anomalies that are soon forgotten, their rating will continue to match their expected performance over time.

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TeamDadJokes said:
Not to reopen our endless conversation about this topic, but it goes to my point that teams get boosted in rating playing weak teams when there is no cross bracket play. Top Hat at #2 in the country was exactly that come to fruition. The ratings work, but there’s still ways to manipulate those ratings.
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Looks like I was wrong before, the big TH tournament is this weekend. (I thought it occurred earlier this month)

Here's the G2010 schedule.

Schedules - NASA Tophat Girls Classic

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Keep an eye on the results + see if they sync with your expectations.
 
So with the season about to begin is there a big difference in comparison between DPL NPL and ECRL?
 
Hmm - something I saw last night still appears to be in that same state in the morning. I thought it would recalculate and normalize overnight, but this does still look weird.

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Just looking at the connected scores, it's hard to understand how it comes up with a 58 score - placing this team #1 in the country.
 
Ever since the coach changed on Surf they haven't been the same. They also lost 2 key midfielders so that could also have an impact this season.
 
SurfSupDude said:
Koge finally passed Surf. And this is before the SoCal Blues 2-0 win over Surf in the Blues Cup final.
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SuperSoccerStar said:
The Tophat national ranking is still absolutely hilarious
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With that finals game now loaded, Surf drops below TopHat as well. All teams #2, #3, #4 are within a few hundredths of a point, so the slightest movement in either direction can bump all of those around a bit over time. MVLA in #1 is more than a full goal ahead of #2, and isn't likely to be going anywhere anytime soon.

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RandomSoccerFan said:
With that finals game now loaded, Surf drops below TopHat as well. All teams #2, #3, #4 are within a few hundredths of a point, so the slightest movement in either direction can bump all of those around a bit over time. MVLA in #1 is more than a full goal ahead of #2, and isn't likely to be going anywhere anytime soon.

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San Diego Showcase we will see what’s up with them. League for them will tell nothing.
 
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