How’s the 2023-24 season going?

Avocados said:
Haven’t posted in a while mainly because this season has been rough.

We’ve been butt-whooped by all three teams multiple times 😝 and they do it in different ways. Surf and MVLA have a similar gradual possession style with surf tending to start outside with their speedy wings and work in, while MVLA often works in to out and they have a solid two way player in their 6. Koge’s defense is punishing with a solid goalie, and they look to trigger a fast break offense.

All styles can win and winning probably takes a little luck. One thing these team and player comparison forums never talk about is defense. Defense won the game in the Champions League today, by the way.
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There's two ways to win ;-)

- You score more than them
- They score less than you

Defense can win just as many games as Offense.
 
Veritas said:
Players that are complete players are not generally affected by high school. They seem to have a focused path and a very strong mental determination to rise to the top without any distractions from high school drama. Many times they are home schooled. Most girls are done growing by 14/15 and if they are good enough they will play varsity.
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Veritas said:
Players that are complete players are not generally affected by high school. They seem to have a focused path and a very strong mental determination to rise to the top without any distractions from high school drama. Many times they are home schooled. Most girls are done growing by 14/15 and if they are good enough they will play varsity.
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Nature doesn't exclude any players, complete or not. We've seen plenty of fantastic 15 year olds hit puberty late because they were home schooled to do soccer, and then slow down dramatically because of puberty. The speed goes down and the turning ability slows down because when nature comes for you, it doesn't care how complete of a player you are.

Those kids that don't know how to handle high school drama will struggle to handle work place/college (pro team) drama.

Then you have the non home schooled kids that eventually catch up to those that are home schooled. There's a max to everything. It's like learning to read, early readers might learn how to do it first and focus on it to be the fastest but eventually over time, kids will catch up as they continue to learn how to read unless there's a reading genius. Same thing as soccer.
 
Zeke said:
National team ID is very different from producing a top team.

Of the 35 players in last year's national championship game, I think only two made it to the national team ID camp this year.
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If your player is not favored by the coach or DOC between the ages of U13-U15 that US ID Camp email will never come. Did anyone actually take the time so see which players were selected from each club? Many questionable selections but then again just look at how many questionable coaches are given ECNL positions. If a coach or a DOC doesn't have experience evaluating elite NT talent they shouldn't be sending US soccer player recommendations. You can try and fool yourself morning noon and night but the only way anyone's coming to look at your kid between the ages of 13 through 15 years old is with a coaches or DOC's email and that typically starts with a parent so far up that coaches ass it hurts.

As others have posted lots of change coming with this group headed into high school.
 
RobbieNorwood said:
If your player is not favored by the coach or DOC between the ages of U13-U15 that US ID Camp email will never come. Did anyone actually take the time so see which players were selected from each club? Many questionable selections but then again just look at how many questionable coaches are given ECNL positions. If a coach or a DOC doesn't have experience evaluating elite NT talent they shouldn't be sending US soccer player recommendations. You can try and fool yourself morning noon and night but the only way anyone's coming to look at your kid between the ages of 13 through 15 years old is with a coaches or DOC's email and that typically starts with a parent so far up that coaches ass it hurts.

As others have posted lots of change coming with this group headed into high school.
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:)
 
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100s of players get called into the ID centers. it's not a big deal. hits and misses for sure.

the actual camp rosters usually make more sense to me.

seems like the YNT scouts like attacking midfielders. and those players are often put at OB, CB, fwd, etc. on the YNTs. and they like goalies that can play with their feet. so all those goalies punting it over and over down the field are at a disadvantage.
 
fms said:
100s of players get called into the ID centers. it's not a big deal. hits and misses for sure.

the actual camp rosters usually make more sense to me.

seems like the YNT scouts like attacking midfielders. and those players are often put at OB, CB, fwd, etc. on the YNTs. and they like goalies that can play with their feet. so all those goalies punting it over and over down the field are at a disadvantage.
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This is a great point. I thinks it a bit of a window dressing and also a bit politics of selection. Interesting how the ID camps bring in so many players, gotta keep everyone happy, right? Club Docs and their top players. But credit where credit's due, the final rosters are always stacked with the right talent. They might cast a wide net, but they definitely know how to reel in the right talent for the YNTs when it matters.
 
Fieldsofgold said:
will legends add these players for playoffs? will the big surprise player join the 09s for playoffs?
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I’m wondering the same. But I haven’t heard anything from any of my sources regarding a surprise player joining the 09’s ? Can you fill us in what you’ve heard?
 
Fieldsofgold said:
The drama of it all is hilarious. I do not know these people personally but I’m sure the player will be a good addition to that legends team.
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Just pointing out...

If there are stand out players at the u15 level that by simply switching clubs are able to define winners and losers in one of the strongest youth sport geographies in America.

1. They should be playing up. (I'm assuming this is not happening already.)

2. They should be in the USWNT pipeline.

3. They should be practicing with or somehow involved with NWSL clubs.

Wasting time with youth clubs is pointless for players of this level.
 
Carlsbad7 said:
Just pointing out...

If there are stand out players at the u15 level that by simply switching clubs are able to define winners and losers in one of the strongest youth sport geographies in America.

1. They should be playing up. (I'm assuming this is not happening already.)

2. They should be in the USWNT pipeline.

3. They should be practicing with or somehow involved with NWSL clubs.

Wasting time with youth clubs is pointless for players of this level.
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Chill out!!! They are still kids. Not sure what point you’re trying to make with this. I was simply commenting on how the drama of youth soccer is funny. These parents constantly team hopping and withholding information as if this is a pro draft is ridiculously funny to me. I disagree that a 14/15 year old needs to involved with an NWSL club. You are clearly over looking the mental and social well being of children.
 
Fieldsofgold said:
Chill out!!! They are still kids. Not sure what point you’re trying to make with this. I was simply commenting on how the drama of youth soccer is funny. These parents constantly team hopping and withholding information as if this is a pro draft is ridiculously funny to me. I disagree that a 14/15 year old needs to involved with an NWSL club. You are clearly over looking the mental and social well being of children.
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10 years ago, we had Tech Specs. It was a pre-draft of 10 and 11-year-olds and where they plan on playing the following the year. ECNL was top league, and many clubs would get their players that they developed stolen from clubs like Blues, Slams and Surf. Beach & Legends were doing all the hard work getting players ready for 11 v 11 and then they got poached. OM went up to the Northwest to go Pro at a very early age and left her parents. I agree, I would never send my dd to soccer boarding school. Hell no!!!
 
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