How’s the 2023-24 season going?

Zeke said:
That's because it's bigger than the World Cup Final. Our kids are playing! :p

Two interesting races to end the season. Surf/Koge for the top of Sonoran, and the Eagles/Beach contest for the last Mojave playoff slot. Have fun out there.
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My prediction for this season is that one of the 2 best soccer playing style teams in the nation Surf or MVLA take it. My hope is the girls have matured, are now bigger stronger and that Koge’s physical advantage that they had last year will not be so dominant. If you limit the corner kicks and set play opportunities near the box for Koge, they will struggle as a soccer team. They are a soccer team with big & fast athletes but not many great soccer players except for their 1 mid that went to the USA national ID. She’s a complete soccer player.
 
Veritas said:
My prediction for this season is that one of the 2 best soccer playing style teams in the nation Surf or MVLA take it. My hope is the girls have matured, are now bigger stronger and that Koge’s physical advantage that they had last year will not be so dominant. If you limit the corner kicks and set play opportunities near the box for Koge, they will struggle as a soccer team. They are a soccer team with big & fast athletes but not many great soccer players except for their 1 mid that went to the USA national ID. She’s a complete soccer player.
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What's your never to early predictions for 24/25 season for 10s? I know both of our sources are legit but not 100% right. My wife's niece is balling out in the IE. I will not give away the name, but she will be playing up with Legends from time to time.
 
Veritas said:
My prediction for this season is that one of the 2 best soccer playing style teams in the nation Surf or MVLA take it. My hope is the girls have matured, are now bigger stronger and that Koge’s physical advantage that they had last year will not be so dominant. If you limit the corner kicks and set play opportunities near the box for Koge, they will struggle as a soccer team. They are a soccer team with big & fast athletes but not many great soccer players except for their 1 mid that went to the USA national ID. She’s a complete soccer player.
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You clearly haven't seen Koge play in a while. I do agree that Surf and MVLA play the best soccer around but saying koge has one complete soccer player is inaccurate. One player does not make a team at this level.
 
Fieldsofgold said:
You clearly haven't seen Koge play in a while. I do agree that Surf and MVLA play the best soccer around but saying koge has one complete soccer player is inaccurate. One player does not make a team at this level.
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I've watched a few games this season. I do recognize an improvement in their ball movement. I think they have amazing athletes but 1 player that today has the potential to play on a youth national team. I do not see that from the rest. At least not yet. That's what I mean by a complete player. Plus I'm looking forward to a new team winning it this year. I have a biased towards teams that connect well together, they usually don't win early in the 11v11 stage but tend to do better over time. Nothing against Koge but they ate their cake last year already.
 
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crush said:
What's your never to early predictions for 24/25 season for 10s? I know both of our sources are legit but not 100% right. My wife's niece is balling out in the IE. I will not give away the name, but she will be playing up with Legends from time to time.
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interesting is she a 2010?
 
crush said:
I can't spill the beans bro.
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So she must be a 2011 that plays up. I'll check with my sources to see who that may be. But regardless, I do not think Legends will take it this year or can beat surf, koge or MVLA at this current moment. They can hang but not yet beat them. They will need a few key pieces to be a contender. They don't have a 10, they could use 1-2 more strong forwards. And also they need a solid 8. Maybe 1-2 more strong defenders. They are solid defensively, they don't give up many goals but still make silly defensive mistakes every now and then from what I've been told.
 
Veritas said:
I've watched a few games this season. I do recognize an improvement in their ball movement. I think they have amazing athletes but 1 player that today that has the potential to play on a youth national team. I do not see that from the rest. At least not yet. That's what I mean by a complete player. Plus I'm looking forward to a new team winning it this year. I have a biased towards teams that connect well together, they usually don't win early in the 11v11 stage but tend to do better over time. Nothing against Koge but they ate their cake last year already.
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Surf and MVLA have been on top for a few years at this age, they arent some under dog teams. Sometimes luck is on one teams side in a given year. What would be amazing is if an east coast team came in and won it all.
 
Veritas said:
I've watched a few games this season. I do recognize an improvement in their ball movement. I think they have amazing athletes but 1 player that today that has the potential to play on a youth national team. I do not see that from the rest. At least not yet. That's what I mean by a complete player. Plus I'm looking forward to a new team winning it this year. I have a biased towards teams that connect well together, they usually don't win early in the 11v11 stage but tend to do better over time. Nothing against Koge but they ate their cake last year already.
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Koge won the national championship last year and beat Surf last week. What do they have to do to win a little respect around here?

Top 3, no question. Keep them far away from my kid's group.
 
Zeke said:
Koge won the national championship last year and beat Surf last week. What do they have to do to win a little respect around here?

Top 3, no question. Keep them far away from my kid's group.
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They are definitely a contender. That Surf vs Koge game could have gone either way with surf owning possession and generating more chances. I never said the team is not good. All I said that individually there is only 1 player this moment that in my eyes is ready for the youth national team. Others have potential but are not yet complete players ready for a youth national team. Only 1 player from Koge made the USA national camp. And they had less players than Blues, Surf, MVLA attending USA ID'S
 
Complete Player:


A complete soccer player embodies a blend of exceptional skills that make them a standout candidate for national team selection. These athletes excel in technical abilities, which include adept dribbling, precise passing, accurate shooting, and effective defending, allowing them to handle various in-game scenarios proficiently. They also possess a deep tactical understanding, capable of adapting to different team formations and strategies while quickly identifying the strengths and weaknesses of their opponents. Physically, they are equipped with the endurance, speed, agility, and strength necessary to maintain top performance levels throughout a match. Moreover, their psychological makeup is marked by mental toughness and leadership qualities. They remain composed under pressure, exhibit strong decision-making capabilities, and can inspire teamwork. This combination of skills not only makes them invaluable on the field but also primes them for potential roles on national teams, where versatility and consistency are crucial.

In Socal 2010 group I can count these players with 1 hand. The 1 mid from Koge, 2 from Surf, the infamous Mak (USA 09 Team) & the girl that plays with MLS boys. They fit the complete player category
 
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Zeke said:
Koge won the national championship last year and beat Surf last week. What do they have to do to win a little respect around here?

Top 3, no question. Keep them far away from my kid's group.
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I would say right now Koge is #1 in Socal and #2 overall. Based on the quality of soccer from MLVA and the style points that come with passing the ball and playing the game the right way, they get the #1. Veritas has only opinions. I would say it goes like this.

# 1 MLVA
#2 Koge
#3 Surf

Next season 24/25 not to early preditions

#1 ?
#2 MLVA
#3 Surf
#4 Hoge
#5-10 The rest of the not so best. Shocked not to see the Blues and no, there not the mystery new #1 team.
 
Veritas said:
Complete Player:


A complete soccer player embodies a blend of exceptional skills that make them a standout candidate for national team selection. These athletes excel in technical abilities, which include adept dribbling, precise passing, accurate shooting, and effective defending, allowing them to handle various in-game scenarios proficiently. They also possess a deep tactical understanding, capable of adapting to different team formations and strategies while quickly identifying the strengths and weaknesses of their opponents. Physically, they are equipped with the endurance, speed, agility, and strength necessary to maintain top performance levels throughout a match. Moreover, their psychological makeup is marked by mental toughness and leadership qualities. They remain composed under pressure, exhibit strong decision-making capabilities, and can inspire teamwork. This combination of skills not only makes them invaluable on the field but also primes them for potential roles on national teams, where versatility and consistency are crucial.
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Mental toughness makes the difference of the complete player that is on top and the player that is not complete, because of the mental anguish in soccer and adversity.
 
Veritas said:
In Socal 2010 group I can count these players with 1 hand. The 1 mid from Koge, 2 from Surf, the infamous Mak (USA 09 Team) & the girl that plays with MLS boys. They fit the complete player category
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I've been on this forum for a few months now, and I'm curious as to why everyone seems to know so much about the girls' teams - the players, coaching rumors, all the gossip etc.. - but the boys' side seems a lot more laidback, frankly.
 
Karlton Athletic said:
I've been on this forum for a few months now, and I'm curious as to why everyone seems to know so much about the girls' teams - the players, coaching rumors, all the gossip etc.. - but the boys' side seems a lot more laidback, frankly.
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These forums have been girl soccer heavy for several years. No idea why.
 
Veritas said:
They are definitely a contender. That Surf vs Koge game could have gone either way with surf owning possession and generating more chances. I never said the team is not good. All I said that individually there is only 1 player this moment that in my eyes is ready for the youth national team. Others have potential but are not yet complete players ready for a youth national team. Only 1 player from Koge made the USA national camp. And they had less players than Blues, Surf, MVLA attending USA ID'S
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Interesting take on a team sport. Not sure the number of individuals making the USA camp means the quality of that team is better. Historically Slammers doesn’t send many girls to the USA camps. Doing some homework, Surf has routinely sent more girls. The HB Koge player you called out was identified at Blues. Don’t think she is the best player on HBK but I haven’t seen them play as much. Surf has great teams, no argument, but number of girls getting scholarships and winning national championships seems to be a better indicator.

From what I have seen at Legends, this is going to be a team to be reckoned with. They are making changes at all levels to build a club that wins at the national level. They are putting the olders in quality D1 programs. Moving to ECNL has opened my eyes a bit. I still think the top GA clubs can compete with the top ECNL clubs, but it is clear GA drops off significantly after the top 5.
 
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