GunScare @ Albion Cup?

I have always understood Cal South to be a governing body and to become an "affiliate member", you answer to their governance policies and procedures. I thought that meant you as an "affiliate member" could only have your tournament "sanctioned" by them if your tournament met their standards.

The below quote from their recent press release appears to show they are enforcing oversight responsibilities by investigating the situation and providing consequences. In their statement, they don't appear to have separated their oversight responsibility from the club's responsibility. Having said that, I agree with you about law suits. Cal South can't be sued for this incident anymore than the SEC that governs public companies can be sued for a company that falsifies information to the public. I am impressed with how Cal South is addressing this issue.

"Cal South is investigating the situation with its affiliate member and the authorities, and while we review the incident, we are taking the following interim measures:
  • Due to the seriousness of the situation, both participating teams, their coaches, players, administrators and the spectators involved in this incident are suspended and ineligible to participate in any Cal South sanctioned tournaments until Cal South completes its investigation and holds hearings.
  • Failure of any team or its staff to participate in Cal South’s investigation will result in further disciplinary action up to and including de-registration from all Cal South sanctioned leagues."
 
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younothat said:
CAL South is culpable and there responds clearly shows they have known about the potential problems in the past and failed to do anything to prevent them.

They have been lax in many areas and now are trying to make up for the lack of over site.

They haven't be doing spot auditing to assess and ensure compliance with Cal South safety and sportsmanship policies.

They didn't consider or require any On-site security personnel and/or law enforcement to enforce the standards for appropriate conduct, respect, etc.

A “Home and Away” side initiative will be implemented and enforced to separate teams and supporters.

They haven't any enough or any on site Referee Coordinators.

This list goes on and yes they are responsible for the mess just like many others so while the legal mumble jumble is amusing the reality is not so pretty but at least they known things needed to change and where forced to do something about them.
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I’m going to go ahead and land on the people who did the bad things are the most at fault. But that’s just m e who believes in personal responsibility versus blaming others. I know; a foreign concept.
 
jpeter said:
Well seems like this is becoming a epidemic:
Massive brawl breaks out at end of Kansas-Kansas State game
sports.yahoo.com

Massive brawl breaks out at end of Kansas-Kansas State game

A massive brawl broke out at the very end of Kansas' win against Kansas State on Tuesday night.
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1219802761115643904
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Also, what about the father who went after the wrestler for slamming his son.

www.aol.com

Father arrested after slamming teen during high school wrestling match

The father of a North Carolina high school wrestler was arrested Saturday, following an incident in which he tackled the son's opponent during a match.
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Keepermom2 said:
I have always understood Cal South to be a governing body and to become an "affiliate member", you answer to their governance policies and procedures. I thought that meant you as an "affiliate member" could only have your tournament "sanctioned" by them if your tournament met their standards.

The below quote from their recent press release appears to show they are enforcing oversight responsibilities by investigating the situation and providing consequences. In their statement, they don't appear to have separated their oversight responsibility from the club's responsibility. Having said that, I agree with you about law suits. Cal South can't be sued for this incident anymore than the SEC that governs public companies can be sued for a company that falsifies information to the public. I am impressed with how Cal South is addressing this issue.

"Cal South is investigating the situation with its affiliate member and the authorities, and while we review the incident, we are taking the following interim measures:
  • Due to the seriousness of the situation, both participating teams, their coaches, players, administrators and the spectators involved in this incident are suspended and ineligible to participate in any Cal South sanctioned tournaments until Cal South completes its investigation and holds hearings.
  • Failure of any team or its staff to participate in Cal South’s investigation will result in further disciplinary action up to and including de-registration from all Cal South sanctioned leagues."
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Close and it may just be a matter of semantics. Technically speaking the only "Governing Body" is US Soccer, which is the National Governing Body for soccer under Federal Law. Cal South is a US Soccer - "State Association" that must comply with both US Soccer and its "National Association" US Youth Soccer's rules and regulations. There are 3 youth "National Association" who are members of US Soccer (AYSO, US Club, US Youth Soccer). Any one of these 3 National Associations could feasibly "sanction" a tournament through their affiliated State Associations/Members. When Cal South sanctions a tournament, all its it doing is saying that the tournament sponsor is (1) a member of Cal South; (2) will abide by Cal South policies and procedures.

Because this was a Cal South sanctioned tournament, the tournament operator (Albion) and all the teams that signed up for the tournament agreed to abide by Cal South and US Youth Soccer rules and regulations. Because the clubs Albion and Inter America are both Cal South members, they are subject to the Cal South disciplinary process through the Cal South Standing Committee: "Protest, Appeals and Discipline (PAD)", which is tasked with the investigation and reporting to the board its (PAD's) findings.

Up to this point, all Cal South has done at this point is recognize that the teams, coaches and admins are suspended from "Cal South sanctioned tournaments" until the investigation is over.

The move for enhanced security and sideline adjustment only impacts Cal South events (but not sanctioned events).
 
soccercon said:
CAL SOUTH EMAIL:

Cindy Quan
President and Chairman
760-887-0131
cquan@calsouth.com

Roy Carlson
Executive Vice President
858-603-5402
rcarlson@calsouth.com

Jerry Selby
Vice President of Youth
jselby@calsouth.com

District 5 Commissioner
(San Bernardino/Riverside Counties)
Louie De La Cruz
760-244-6878 – ldelacruz@calsouth.com

District 1 Commissioner
(San Diego/Imperial Counties)
Robert Pennoyer
619-988-5499 – rpennoyer@calsouth.com
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Stupid the kids worked hard for state cup just stupid get the hell out of here
 
m0relife said:
I don't think it's that difficult to understand that my point is that Azteca was disciplined for misconduct 14 times during their CSL season and Albion was disciplined 3 times.
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Agree......that is a lot of disciplinary points.....highest I have seen except for one girls team that got 20....three or four is a normal amount.....kind of scary to see double figures especially in such a short league season......calsouths announcement was a good one......kudos if they follow it through.......
 
oh canada said:
Cal South - we have not forgotten. You have a few more days to issue a ruling and public statement. Games for these two teams were scheduled for next Saturday.
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That is alarming news to me....I was told that the two teams were not going to be in Tournament. I agree with you, I would like to see a ruling and public statement.
 
PruritusAniFC said:
That is alarming news to me....I was told that the two teams were not going to be in Tournament. I agree with you, I would like to see a ruling and public statement.
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If this is the one team, they are still shown on the schedule to play. Maybe they will be shown as forfeiting and the other teams in their group only play twice? Sharks, Murrieta Surf or Barca in their group heard anything?

Cal South Soccer - View Schedule

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Cal South is going to sneak them in....and that's too bad....It's important they get a severe punishment to send a message to all.
 
I really hope that's not the case as far as Calsouth sneaking them in. As far as their statement says, the teams are suspended and ineligible to play until the investigation is over. I have yet to see anything else put out since their initial statement so I am assuming the investigation is still on-going.

If they try to put out a statement the day before these teams are slated to play, that will reflect poorly on CalSouth and I am sure the parents that have been monitoring this situation will raise hell.

SoCal23 said:
Cal South is going to sneak them in....and that's too bad....It's important they get a severe punishment to send a message to all.
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If CalSouth can't manage a ban, the other coaches can.

Just refuse to play the thug team. Boycott them. Let the psycho parents cheer at an empty field.
 
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