whatithink
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Or they could use the excess funds to lower the teacher/student ratio, or provide better resources (tech, labs, study facilities etc.) for students to help in achieving higher results, i.e. use it for education and not sports.
Get ready folks
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I agree. Sports shouldn't be mixed with College degrees. But this isn't the world we live in.
Why finances? Why should people with money pay more than people without?
Because students may not have the resources through no fault of their own and as a country we value education. I think we can do both, and those kids that have money should be rewarded for their academics. There is plenty of money out there for academics, regardless of need, although it may not be at the school of your choice.
However, I don't think taxpayers should be footing the bill for non-marketable degrees that have exploded in the last couple of decades. If you want to go that route it should be on your own dime. I'd like to see more money go to trade school opportunities.
Not only is tuition going up, you're getting less for your money. I've been surprised by how many of my daughters and her friends classes are only offered online. Not remotely the same as in person education.
There are over 1000 D1, D2, and NAIA schools giving sports scholarships. Less than 100 are profitable. Every D1 school is going to have to pay for the 2.78 billion lawsuit, not just the P4 schools. The money comes from: NCAA national office. 41%; Power 4: 24%; Group of 5:10%; FCS: 13%; Non-FB: 12% P4 gets 90% of the revenue, only pays 24% of the penalty. They consist of 68 teams. They are the only ones that afford this. So we have over 900 schools that can't afford this. They don't have the athletic income. NIL only benefits male football and basketball athletes. The rest of the sports need scholarships. Every team has coaches, travel, food, lodging, facilities, players. 90% with low income.
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TheMountie
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It's pretty clear when looking at top teams in youth sports that most players are born early in the year. Late-born kids often end up riding the bench or being assigned to a B team due to their size, even though they may possess more technical skills than their larger peers, who typically rely on size and speed. This focus on winning with bigger players over developing younger talent limits these players' exposure and confidence, making it harder for them to continue in the sport.
RandomSoccerFan
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No. This is simply untrue, regardless of how often it is incorrectly repeated. Yes - there is a preference for earlier birthdays over later birthdays, for the reasons you describe. But by no means does this mean "most players are born early in the year". It does mean that birthdays aren't distributed equally across all 12 months.
I'm good with the idea of scholarships. I'm not good with, "it's free for you because you can't pay for it" becoming more and more of a thing in our society. The problem is, and you touched on it, we taxpayers are footing the bill for these college loans being "forgiven" and that's never talked about. Those students get to keep their degrees. I worked nights and weekends to supplement my education just like a lot of posters on this forum. Why am I on the hook for others? I'm on the hook for my kids already. And I would put EVERY degree in that category... not just the marketable or non-marketable because that gets us deep in the woods.
We value education as a country unless it's K-12. Maybe that's just a California problem but it's beginning to feel like we have more expensive colleges than high schools preparing kids to be successful in life.
That's an issue that can only be effectively addressed by changing how we evaluate players. Changing the age cutoff won't even put a dent in this problem.
I'm OK with this. Burn it all down.
What will happen is the leftovers that are profitable will create leagues. These leagues will compete for the best of the best talent with pro clubs and pro sports.
Youth sports will suffer because using sports as a way get into a good college won't happen anymore. Schools will be forced to accept students based on grades and more academically defined achievements.
MLSN will capitalize on the boys side.
Something like MLSN will appear on the girls side.
pitchplease
SILVER ELITE
interesting breakdown. i had no idea. my dd plays at one of those schools listed above. the campus, amenities, resources, etc are incredible. they are top class when it comes to taking care of their athletes and students. she truly loves it there, and we love going to visit. we joke about going back there to retire. love the community there. very fortunate she got it right the second time around
aong cangkol
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We already have a solution for K-12 and it is working "relatively" well. Anyone can go to private school if they want to and private school businesses are still profitable.
Why not making public colleges and trade schools (almost) free like any other countries in the world? USA is still the richest country in the world.
If rich kids want to go to public colleges, it should be fine, there is no need to feel injustice when rich kids pay the same tuition rate.
Currently, if a child is in 8th and their teammates are in 9th, isn’t the issue for trapped players during winter season only which is when soccer season is for HS? So during winter the 8th grade kids the trapped players get no practice? Are there usually club games during winter too? I thought it was fall or spring which the trapped players get to play as well. Am I missing something?
Code
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Scouts are focused on the Sophmore and Junior classes. How do the trapped players get an extra year?
If you impress as a freshman on a sophomore team recruiters will take note.
Trapped players have an extra year to get their social media running before speaking with recruiters.
Trapped players will have contact info of all top recruiters and coachs a year early. This will allow them to get on their radar for tournaments, finals, and showcases when they become sophomores in HS.
Honestly the people that complain the most about their kid being trapped are the ones who are using it as a excuse for lack of interest from recruiters and college coaches.
Recruiters don't walk around showcases shopping for players. They have a list of players that have expressed interest in attending their school. They stop and watch them play evaluating their ability to fit into their roster. This is what people don't understand.
Also trusted coach, DOC, player, recruiters, recommendations are what get players on rosters.
Code
GOLD
You really think freshman have any idea what Colleges they are interested in, or what degree programs are important to them? They don't get an extra year, they have to start thier process a year earlier. They are in 8th Grade being pressured to make decisions about what College Coaches they should contact. There is no extra year of playing time.
And you know that those who complain the most about ECNL are the people who have kids playing in GA.
Instead of free, offer up 0% interest as long as minimum payment if made. Should we help with tuition to trade schools? At least the govt knows they will end up with a guy making $40 per hour as an electrician, paying taxes.
You only mentioned trapped players. I thought that was your question. Not GA or ECNL.
If your club isnt talking to u14 players about college and working with recruiters they're doing a disservice to their players.
They sure are.
Yeah and the “trapped” player can go play on the younger team during the break. Last year in Southwest we played the whole first half of the ECNL season over again during the high school break. I don’t know what they are doing this year. This whole trapped player is such bullshit.