Get ready folks

[watfly]

So we’re not going to answer the question? If I’m not mistaken, MLSN plays a different schedule (ie LA Galaxy and etc) and doesn’t have the same trapped player issue to the same as the rest because the academy teams ignore high school soccer and play through winter. And being a dual sport high school athlete isn’t close to the issues of trapped players. My kids a high schooler right now playing multiple school sports and although her days are long because of the commitments there hasn’t been much conflict as to choosing one sport over the other due to scheduling restraints.

I'm not sure I understand your point. My kid would have loved to have 3 months off from competitive soccer when he was in 8th grade. I see it as an advantage for those kids. They can cross train, play futsal, recover etc...whatever. This would be far more beneficial to these kids then those kids playing JV high school soccer.

The trapped player issue is more about FOMO, than anything else.

 

[TeamDadJokes]

I'm not sure I understand your point. My kid would have loved to have 3 months off from competitive soccer when he was in 8th grade. I see it as an advantage for those kids. They can cross train, play futsal, recover etc...whatever. This would be far more beneficial to these kids then those kids playing JV high school soccer.

The trapped player issue is more about FOMO, than anything else.

My point is MLSN academies play during high school season and don’t have the same trapped player issues.

Looking at the 2009 MLSN teams from last year, they played 15 matches during the time when other leagues shut down for high school. Thats a lot of playtime to be missed.

Thats not mentioning everything else that’s been said in this thread. You can’t say you’re experiencing the same trapped player issues in MLSN as let’s say a female ECNL trapped player would, nor anyone else outside of MLSN.

 

[watfly]

My point is MLSN academies play during high school season and don’t have the same trapped player issues.

Looking at the 2009 MLSN teams from last year, they played 15 matches during the time when other leagues shut down for high school. Thats a lot of playtime to be missed.

Thats not mentioning everything else that’s been said in this thread. You can’t say you’re experiencing the same trapped player issues in MLSN as let’s say a female ECNL trapped player would, nor anyone else outside of MLSN.

Sorry, but missing 15 games when you're an 8th grader is not going to impact your kids soccer "pathway", maybe if they're sitting on their butt playing video games for 3 months it might impact them, but even that's doubtful. Kids play too many games as it is and do far too little cross training. Part of the problem with US youth soccer is the hyper focus on game play with too many games. Between league play, showcases and tournaments its absurd how many games kids play. This is also one of the primary causes of burnout, and between 8 and 9th grade is when it is mostly likely to happen (although it's not always burnout, sometimes its just better options).

Again what your experiencing is FOMO. Use the time off to your kids advantage. Go snowboarding on weekends, have your kid learn how to ollie a skateboard, take them to the pump track with their bike, organize pickup games with other "trapped" players, do speed and strength training.

 

[TeamDadJokes]

Sorry, but missing 15 games when you're an 8th grader is not going to impact your kids soccer "pathway", maybe if they're sitting on their butt playing video games for 3 months it might impact them, but even that's doubtful. Kids play too many games as it is and do far too little cross training. Part of the problem with US youth soccer is the hyper focus on game play with too many games. Between league play, showcases and tournaments its absurd how many games kids play. This is also one of the primary causes of burnout, and between 8 and 9th grade is when it is mostly likely to happen (although it's not always burnout, sometimes its just better options).

Again what your experiencing is FOMO. Use the time off to your kids advantage. Go snowboarding on weekends, have your kid learn how to ollie a skateboard, take them to the pump track with their bike, organize pickup games with other "trapped" players, do speed and strength training.

I guess we can agree to disagree. Nothing fomo for me. I’ve always gotten my kid work in the winter. 15 games is a long time for girls and little women who are built different than boys and get out of shape faster. We can’t see eye to eye here because of the difference in league and gender associated between our experiences.

 

[chipmonk]

My point is MLSN academies play during high school season and don’t have the same trapped player issues.

Looking at the 2009 MLSN teams from last year, they played 15 matches during the time when other leagues shut down for high school. Thats a lot of playtime to be missed.

Thats not mentioning everything else that’s been said in this thread. You can’t say you’re experiencing the same trapped player issues in MLSN as let’s say a female ECNL trapped player would, nor anyone else outside of MLSN.

The younger girls ECNL teams already take off from competitive games Dec - Feb no? Isn't GA the only league that has games for the Youngers during high school season?

My kids (each gender) clubs did a good job giving 'trapped' players opportunities to train and play during high school season. If they don't like training/playing with the younger team for a brief 2.5 months then why do they want the age change in the first place? The only families I know that are excited for the change are the ones who are at clubs where the younger team is better than the older team, or they like the coach of the younger team better than the older team.

 

[watfly]

I guess we can agree to disagree. Nothing fomo for me. I’ve always gotten my kid work in the winter. 15 games is a long time for girls and little women who are built different than boys and get out of shape faster. We can’t see eye to eye here because of the difference in league and gender associated between our experiences.

I don't doubt that things are different for the girls. Soccer is probably the #1 sport for girls, whereas for HS boys its #4 at best. Not to mention if you're looking for scholarship opportunities. Odds of a HS boy making a D1 soccer team is 108:1 vs. girl is 41:1. Odds of a HS boy playing D1 football are 33:1. So it appears there is greater fear for girls falling behind since soccer represents one of their best opportunities.

 

[TeamDadJokes]

The younger girls ECNL teams already take off from competitive games Dec - Feb no? Isn't GA the only league that has games for the Youngers during high school season?

My kids (each gender) clubs did a good job giving 'trapped' players opportunities to train and play during high school season. If they don't like training/playing with the younger team for a brief 2.5 months then why do they want the age change in the first place? The only families I know that are excited for the change are the ones who are at clubs where the younger team is better than the older team, or they like the coach of the younger team better than the older team.

No, the NLs scrimmage each other and the others ie RLs do tournaments. Think Vegas Cup MLK weekend, Silverlakes Friendlies, and etc.

 

[TopesWin]

Sorry, but missing 15 games when you're an 8th grader is not going to impact your kids soccer "pathway", maybe if they're sitting on their butt playing video games for 3 months it might impact them, but even that's doubtful. Kids play too many games as it is and do far too little cross training. Part of the problem with US youth soccer is the hyper focus on game play with too many games. Between league play, showcases and tournaments its absurd how many games kids play. This is also one of the primary causes of burnout, and between 8 and 9th grade is when it is mostly likely to happen (although it's not always burnout, sometimes its just better options).

Again what your experiencing is FOMO. Use the time off to your kids advantage. Go snowboarding on weekends, have your kid learn how to ollie a skateboard, take them to the pump track with their bike, organize pickup games with other "trapped" players, do speed and strength traini

Damn, thanks for reminding me - I still can't figure out how doing an ollie is even possible, given what I know of the laws of physics. So frustrating! I also wish I had learned to do a wheelie when I was young. A three-month break would be perfect for that!!!

 

[watfly]

Damn, thanks for reminding me - I still can't figure out how doing an ollie is even possible, given what I know of the laws of physics. So frustrating! I also wish I had learned to do a wheelie when I was young. A three-month break would be perfect for that!!!

I'm hope you don't think I'm suggesting you learn those things. It's far too dangerous for you and I to follow our kids around the skatepark, bmx track, or terrain park. I can vouch for that based on personal experience. Catching air is not our problem, its the landing that will kill us.