That's terrible Crush and I am not against tough love. I want tough love, but tough love comes from good coaching. Criticism without direction though is not good coaching. We can handle raised voices and passion from the coach. We can handle disappointment, but when the coach is a bigger disappointment than the girls and then calls them "losers", there is something far worse brewing. Not going to happen with my girl! Sorry, not this young. When she is older and has to tolerate that crap to get seen, we'll see, but not this young. We've been spoiled with good coaches maybe.
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That's terrible Crush and I am not against tough love. I want tough love, but tough love comes from good coaching. Criticism without direction though is not good coaching. We can handle raised voices and passion from the coach. We can handle disappointment, but when the coach is a bigger disappointment than the girls and then calls them "losers", there is something far worse brewing. Not going to happen with my girl! Sorry, not this young. When she is older and has to tolerate that crap to get seen, we'll see, but not this young. We've been spoiled with good coaches maybe.
My dd is a Maverick way up. She told coach not to talk to her teammate like that and he got all mad. She told me about the fat shaming and I called that loser out on the phone. The next week he told all his players, "do not talk to your parents about what I say and do at practice. If you do, you sit on the bench." I'm all for tough love but not yelling and screaming and manipulation tactics. Good example, "hey Maverick, I like your game. However, you show up late sometimes. If your late again, you won't start." Or, "Hey Mavs, you got game but your focus and work rate is not up to snuff all the time. If you want to go all the way, you need to bring it all the time."
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Got to earn those trophy points if you want Silver. Or just pay to play and get Platinum. I kind of like how the Socal Forum is structured like youth soccer.
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Very fair. But so is the question. If people are trying out now, I think they would want to know if the team they’re trying out for is going to lose their ECNL status before making a decision. Ask recent strikers laterals, for instance….
100%. War stories with Crush will share how the girls and their parents have no say in anything. The GDA was insane. Clubs were left in the dark. They rolled out the winners in stages, which was so unfair. If you didn't get the DA, you were stuck with the new losers league, which was ECNL. I will share later. Parents have zero say. My buddy was on that Strikers situation after my dd aged out. They paid for ECNL and they were sold something else a week later. These poor girls were dealing with the Rona BS and now this musical soccer BS. The losers are usually the sucker parents who believe the lies and the girls get left in the dust. So sad....
Picking up from last nights "War Stories With Crush," my dd ended up going to the Blues to be coached and mentored by the great TB and to take her game to the next level and look to win, and win we did. Her team gave up zero goals in league and she led the team in scoring. The Center Mid's she played with were YNT players and let me just say, without them making beautiful passes, she does not score all the goals she did. We broke the Blues record of shut out streaks and went on to win Surf Cup & State Cup (see pic. My baby is the one in the middle, next to trophy 
My dd got the game winner in OT during the Quarter Finals at State Cup against one the best GK in the country. Then she scored the first two goals in the Semis against her future club. Talk about goose bumps and a rush for Crush. I love glory days you guys and sorry if I come across as cocky and prideful.
The war part in all this was being told not to post on the socal's fabulous soccer forum from the club and the parents. They said I could only lurk, but no posting allowed. This battle was inside my brain because I loved the forum to talk smack, GOAT FC team, the parents on the team, but the GOAT GM dad had a rule that you had to post on a regular basis or else no spot. I think that was fair but it was still a war in my head. I don't like being controlled and told what to do, but I did it for my dd sake. I tried to say hi to some of the parents from other teams my dd club hopped from and it was not received well. I'm telling you all, many parents did not like my skip in my step because we were #1 in the country that year and they saw me smiling all the time. It was one the great victories in the war. I honestly thought they would be proud of my dd teams accomplishments and her personal success but envy got the best of them.
My dd got the game winner in OT during the Quarter Finals at State Cup against one the best GK in the country. Then she scored the first two goals in the Semis against her future club. Talk about goose bumps and a rush for Crush. I love glory days you guys and sorry if I come across as cocky and prideful.The war part in all this was being told not to post on the socal's fabulous soccer forum from the club and the parents. They said I could only lurk, but no posting allowed. This battle was inside my brain because I loved the forum to talk smack, GOAT FC team, the parents on the team, but the GOAT GM dad had a rule that you had to post on a regular basis or else no spot. I think that was fair but it was still a war in my head. I don't like being controlled and told what to do, but I did it for my dd sake. I tried to say hi to some of the parents from other teams my dd club hopped from and it was not received well. I'm telling you all, many parents did not like my skip in my step because we were #1 in the country that year and they saw me smiling all the time. It was one the great victories in the war. I honestly thought they would be proud of my dd teams accomplishments and her personal success but envy got the best of them.
“We broke the Blues record of shut out streaks”??
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Picking up from last nights "War Stories With Crush," my dd ended up going to the Blues to be coached and mentored by the great TB and to take her game to the next level and look to win, and win we did. Her team gave up zero goals in league and she led the team in scoring. The Center Mid's she played with were YNT players and let me just say, without them making beautiful passes, she does not score all the goals she did. We broke the Blues record of shut out streaks and went on to win Surf Cup & State Cup (see pic. My baby is the one in the middle, next to trophy
The war part in all this was being told not to post on the socal's fabulous soccer forum from the club and the parents. They said I could only lurk, but no posting allowed. This battle was inside my brain because I loved the forum to talk smack, GOAT FC team, the parents on the team, but the GOAT GM dad had a rule that you had to post on a regular basis or else no spot. I think that was fair but it was still a war in my head. I don't like being controlled and told what to do, but I did it for my dd sake. I tried to say hi to some of the parents from other teams my dd club hopped from and it was not received well. I'm telling you all, many parents did not like my skip in my step because we were #1 in the country that year and they saw me smiling all the time. It was one the great victories in the war. I honestly thought they would be proud of my dd teams accomplishments and her personal success but envy got the best of them.
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Crush, did she end up playing in college? I just have a hard time thinking many coaches would turn down such a quality player. They might have a short leash, but ecnl teams need wins. Did your daughter only want to play for certain teams or what? I get the politics and don't like it, but I do expect it. Of all those girls, how many played in college or pro? Very curious.
Great questions way up. I was given great advice to play for a good coach and that's what we were doing. It's about the right coach and TB was the best. I can say on this team, I see players at North Carolina, Penn St, U of Colorado, Michigan and I think USC. At the Ranch, I can look back and I see Stanford, USC, UCLA and three that went Pro. WA Spirit, City of Angels and Thorns in Portland. It was 100% the best of the best. At this time with "War Stories With Crush" my dd was just having fun, work rate was 100% high octan turbo charge & she was winning and looking for more medals to add to her collection and I knew nothing about college until year #2 with TB and the Blues, which was 2015-2016 season. She was 11-12 now. I also saw how very hard it would be for her to make the Olympic Team, but I never told my dd that. My eyes saw serious top players. Plus, my kid was the smallest of the bunch but she also had a fire in her belly so I would never say, "no way sweetie, that's a pipe dream. Get good grades so you can make lot's of money honey."
I started to learn what this sport is truly all about around this time. The turf wars were just getting started with the clubs in Socal and let me tell you, it got insane. You use the word "cattle" for the girls but many of us used the word, "GOAT." All the parents think their GOAT is the greatest of all time. So for the purpose of sharing war stories, I will be using the word goat from now on. Up to this point in her soccer journey, she was treated with respect and no one yelled or screamed at her. That comes later. I did hear other coaches yell at the Ranch, but not the great TB. He never and I mean never yelled or put down one of his players. He knew the female to be different than the males he coached in Brazil. He told me he tried to coach the female the same when he was younger but he soon found the female creature is not built the same way as the male. I hope that makes sense for you. Blues Bakers had probably the best team ever assembled in youth soccer. Our U11 team was #1 and we needed a challenge and a butt kicking to keep us on our toes so we would scrimmage the Bakers top team from time to time. It's a whose who of GOATs. A big rush for Crush was when we scrimmaged them. No one beat this team bro. They won Natty's left and right. So the game starts and about 3 minutes in, my dd caught one of the defenders napping and snuck up on her, got the ball and scored on one of the best GK in our country today and we went up 1-0. Parents just looked at me and said, "wow!!!" Anyway, I saw tough love first handed and GB pulled that napping defender out of the game and let her have it. She never made that mistake again. Rodman, Jackson & Turner did their thing and we lost 10-1 after that. I will share more about what happen to her regarding college and all that great stuff.
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The big differences between 2014 and 2023 are DA blew up + the 2010s had to deal with covid. DA blowing up has concentrated girls clubs into ECNL (believe it or not if you told others in 2014 that your kid played ECNL theyd ask why they're not playing DA) and Covid basically stole 1-2 years of competition from everyone.
I personally dont mind Crushs posts but I also take them with a grain of salt. Theres good + bad info you just have to decide what parts are worth while.
You do realize that theres been 8-9 Surf Cups / State Cups since the pics that are being presented? No disrespect but winning Surf Cup and State Cup has been achieved by other posters. The difference is that most dont post pics that identify themselves, their kids, or other players on their teams.
The big differences between 2014 and 2023 are DA blew up + the 2010s had to deal with covid. DA blowing up has concentrated girls clubs into ECNL (believe it or not if you told others in 2014 that your kid played ECNL theyd ask why they're not playing DA) and Covid basically stole 1-2 years of competition from everyone.
I personally dont mind Crushs posts but I also take them with a grain of salt. Theres good + bad info you just have to decide what parts are worth while.
I get what you are saying. Some parents are simply nuts for having their DD on a top team with all the toxic drama when the benefit may only be a Starbucks salary and possibly a free college education. There are different motivational factors for everyone. There is no right or wrong way to go about it. I’m going to ask you this though. Is playing 3-4 games vs the top 3-4 teams in 1 season enough? Or is training with the top players day in and day out, playing vs top teams in league, tournaments and getting to the playoffs and playing more top teams there better for development?
I have to pause "War Stories With Crush" Way Up and my other new friends on here. I tend to talk too much and some just can't handle it. I have to let others have their turn to challenge what I'm saying. 100% we gave up ZERO goals in league and we broke the Socal Blues "no goals given up by a team." If we went up 8-0, we played keep away. I don't lie about this stuff you guys. I am getting old so I might be off a year but I have no reason to lie. Envy is real in this sport in SoCal and jealousy can get the best of us. I will say this. Surf Cup today is nothing like when my dd won two Surf Cups before 2017. There was only one Group of the "Best of the Best" and that is a fact. If you won it back then, it meant something different and I'll just leave it at that. Cal South and ODP was EVERYTHING in Socal in 2015-2016. Today, where is Cal South? ODP? Times are not the same before 2017 fellas. Please take everything I say with a grain of salt and a shot of your favorite Tequila. I will now allow others to challenge my experience and call me names. Let the war begin again
Let's see what the "experts" on my dd life have to say about it way up. They know more then me. Keep in mine that GM Dads, TMs, Docs and Coaches are on here as avatars. One thing about this war is that I was not good for $occer biz and neither was my baby goat. They lurk in the dark on here. Daddy runs soccer in Socal bro.
Carlsbad, I really dont' care about the accolades or achievements people point to. I really look to this forum for experiences of parents in this stressful, political circus. I have to also enjoy this experience to encourage and advocate for my daughter, so team culture, future planning, and other people's experiences are very helpful to several of us reading through the forum. I hate how dependent we are on the opinions of coaches and clubs for our future planning. Most of us are writing checks for this experience, so this is a business first. We don't get to hear from a lot of parents who have been through this whole process. It seems like every year these coaches just tell us what we want to hear and we ask fewer questions when a coach says how great our kids are.
I don't blame the coaches or anything, but there is no alternative for competitive, high level soccer, because if I were king, there would be a league with monitored pick up games/leagues/multiple teams/etc. where our kids could play 10 to 20 scrimmages a week and a few hours on technical/system work. US Soccer lacks the backyard game where kids can use their skills to get creative and more instinctive with their passing, collecting, carrying skills. The power clubs have over the whole damn year limits the growth and potential for all of our players not to mention, the money and time to drive. Huge advantage for higher income families and stay at home moms imo. It is what it is, but my opinion also is the more competition the better and we have so many quality players in so cal, I have no idea why we have to drive all over the place to get the competitive games.
Sage advice again bro. Pure soccer cream rises to the top always Veritas. Add some Ganas to the mix and you got yourself a soccer player. However, the tough part in Socal is also adding the SAT score, GPA, test taking abilities and the ass kissing abilities from Daddy and you got a big mess on your hands like we do today. Pay for play makes the cream diluted, especially if you don't kiss ass with your money. I could not and would never compete with this kind of pay to play. When "War Stories With Crush" continues, I will share about this deeper & how the GOAT has to become a true Unicorn soccer player.
Bingo!!!
Fair question and I agree to a point. We were on a top team and got to train with intense girls. It got us where we are, but now my daughter has that intensity and grit and can use it to help create an intense culture with another team in the same ecnl league. Matter of fact, her coaching development is better, because again, super unimpressed with the coach's coaching and focus of training. I see girls that left Slammers to go to Blues now coming back to Slammers and vice versa. I see in other ages, top club teams completely falling apart for these recruiting tactics designed to destroy teams more than bring players in. It's just not good for players and parents that want their kids to focus on smart soccer training and games. It's a $hit Show and sooooo unnecessary. I have to be happy to be there for my kid in this experience. If I'm not having fun and the end trophy is comparable to a job at Starbucks, what's the point?
The coaches and clubs are great at making us think we need them as US soccer is the most expensive in the world and only good for womens. Our mens program sucks, but in fairness all of concacaf sucks as I don't think any concacaf team has ever passed the quarterfinals of world cup. Our whole soccer system sucks imo. There should not be stress. These kids should be playing soccer games and getting creative and instinctive in very competitive environments without worrying about club politics.
Btw, our team can compete against the top teams in our age and the main difference between our players and these so called top players is a little phyisicality, work rate, and in all honesty, 1 or 2 super skilled players that could play up in age in ecnl that the top club recruited. Guess who will get fed most with the ball in those critical games? The most important thing imo is how much improvement your kid gets every year and if they are not a pivotal player on a team, they may be just dragging along with a very good team.
The girls need to have fun as well. You will start seeing extreme burn out when middle school and high school comes around. Girls don't like being yelled at if they are allowed to be honest. Our Government did a study, a study about US Soccer/Pro for the women and they said we have a systematic problem that goes all they way down to the youth game. Has anyone addressed this yet in the youth game? No, only Crush has. Parents and girls are afraid to speak up because of retaliation, getting blacklisted, blackballed and slandered by assholes who run this sport. US Soccer had their HQs out of Chicago in that frat house called, The Kimball House. Women who worked there were sexually harrassed all day and filed suit. The Kimball Hoiuse was the old Mafia house.
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