ECNL vs. DA turf war has created a 'toxic environment'

Justus said:
Exactly why I'm here 90. You just have it all wrong and to be honest, backwards. I think I'm the "wicked dad from the east until you watch the play Wizard. I was so scared of the little monkeys and that witch from the east sacred me as a little boy. When I saw Wizard it took away my fear. When we have fear, we attack. Think about that why we all have a discussion today and tomorrow, and the next. This might be a safe place, seriously. Maybe Dom can come up with rules of the discussions. Just a thought. Kicker, I love you dude and I'm sorry for being sarcastic at times on this forum. I was fishing. Please forgive me and from my dd to yours, all good brah!!!!
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Justus said:
To all coaches and scouts in America and the world. My dd is focusing on high school and her studies. When she is a JR if she wants to, we will visit the schools on her list. We don't want to be contacted. And for the record, no college coach has ever spoke to my kid because she has never emailed one or talked on the phone with one. College coaches are not the problem, TRUST ME!!!! She can go to the college still and not play soccer right? She won't get blacklisted if she's is just a student? Maybe she goes to design school instead or starts her own biz or goes pro? My dd has so many options.
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MWN said:
This would be a surprise, actually somewhat shocking. Check the website:
https://www.ussoccer.com/governance/financial-information

So I looked up the 2018 990 (which is for the tax year 2017). Government Grants (contributions) are located in the Statement of Revenue (Page 9) - Part VIII - Section 1e. The 2017 - 990 is $0.0 for grants.

Maybe it was the 2017 990 for tax year 2016? Looked it up. $0.0.
2015? $0.0.
2014? $0.0.

Help me understand what you are looking at that shows the Federation receives government funding ... in excess of the benefit of its 501(c)(3) tax exempt status.
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@beachbum
As soon as you posted that I knew what your mistake was because the lack of any membership revenue was the clue. You are looking at the wrong 990. The one you found is for the US Soccer Foundation (United State Soccer Federation Foundation, Inc.) a different entity and non-profit that was actually sued by the US Soccer Federation. (https://www.si.com/soccer/2018/12/06/us-soccer-foundation-federation-lawsuit-ussf)

  1. United States Soccer Federation Foundation, Inc. [EIN: 36-3976313](ussoccerfoundation.org)

  2. United States Soccer Federation [EIN: 13-5591991] (ussoccer.com)
Here are the correct 990's:
https://www.ussoccer.com/governance/financial-information

So we are clear, the US Soccer Federation (not the Foundation) receives no government funding.
 
MWN said:
@beachbum
As soon as you posted that I knew what your mistake was because the lack of any membership revenue was the clue. You are looking at the wrong 990. The one you found is for the US Soccer Foundation (United State Soccer Federation Foundation, Inc.) a different entity and non-profit that was actually sued by the US Soccer Federation. (https://www.si.com/soccer/2018/12/06/us-soccer-foundation-federation-lawsuit-ussf)

  1. United States Soccer Federation Foundation, Inc. [EIN: 36-3976313](ussoccerfoundation.org)

  2. United States Soccer Federation [EIN: 13-5591991] (ussoccer.com)
Here are the correct 990's:
https://www.ussoccer.com/governance/financial-information

So we are clear, the US Soccer Federation (not the Foundation) receives no government funding.
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Can you do my taxes?
 
Josep said:
Give up on HS. Many DA kids don’t care about it like you and your daughter do. many of not most HS games are unwatchable and there are really only a few superstars out there who make the magic happen.
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No need to bash HS to prop up DA.
 
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I was not up to speed on TC then or now. Was it ok to use the Training Center to use as recruiting tool to bring top players to the DOCs running the TCs?
 
MakeAPlay said:
@Ellejustus You have lots of people giving you mad love. You should just chill and enjoy the ride. Soon enough you will be where I am at which is close to the end. My kid is not a kid anymore (she turned 21 at the end of May) and she is studying for the LSAT and deciding whether she wants to play in England, France, Spain, Germany or the NWSL. The days of driving her to practice and tournaments are over. No more making sure all of her stuff is in her soccer bag. No more talking on the way to the game about who they are going to play and what I know about them. Now they have professional scouting reports on opponents and have seen hours of game film on them. Enjoy the journey because truth be told it really is about the journey and not the destination. Remember no matter how good a player is it can all be taken away in an instant. Not to mention unless they are that one or two players per birth year that are going to make the full WNT then this is a labor of love that better include a plan "B" that is really your plan "A."


Good luck to you and your player.
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most of the folks I know who went to law school don't even use their law degree any more. just like soccer, unless she really has a passion for law, take a pass. unless UCLA will pay for 3 years of J.D. too :)
 
oh canada said:
most of the folks I know who went to law school don't even use their law degree any more. just like soccer, unless she really has a passion for law, take a pass. unless UCLA will pay for 3 years of J.D. too :)
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Her mom's best friend and my sister are attorneys and she wants to save the world. I'm hoping that she keeps her high ideals or just goes the corporate route. My wife's attorney has expanded her thinking to include real estate law but she still wants to fight against the big corporate domination of America....

Good luck to you and your player.
 
Justus said:
It's ok because you didn't go through the sales process like I did with my dd. Maybe "smoke & mirror?"
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We have gone through our ups and downs but at no time did I gullibly walk into something without caution or being informed. Nor if something went awry did I blame coaches or club administrators. In the end I took responsibility for my decisions for my child. You may want to try it.
 
Justus said:
None of you know the recruiting process my 12 & 13 year 0ld (at the time) went through except MY WIFE, MY DD, SON and ME plus the two BIG CLUBS AND THE DOCs THAT GOT ALL THE PERCEIVED BENEIFITS FOR GOING $$$$$$ALL IN$$$$$$$
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dude, the colors and cap's are making you "look" like a nutjob. hope your kid's okay and isn't "outed" over this flack. chill and just make sure she's having a good time with it all. :)
 
BigSoccer said:
Question and a point of view. If Albion is the new club in DA, how do you know they will not be competitive. I have read they have strong 05 and 06 teams in other posts. Who knows about the others?
Point.. college does not start and end at UCLA or USC or DI. What about the kids who dream of playing and are less well off who attend an NAIA school. My daughter is not on a top team an she knows it. She is good not great but plays hard. She wants to play in college and gets good grades. Are you saying the emails she is sending DIII and NAIA schools should stop as she has not shot?
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You are right and some, like my DD, are interested in DIII because of the scholastic level. She's turned down a number of DI. It's very courageous and we are supportive, but it is scary at moments. Know your kid and trust and believe in them. There are many accolades to be had at all levels. Just shoot to be your best!
 
Definitely do not stop reaching out to DIII and NAIA schools. I am a firm believer if you are committed to the idea of playing soccer in college and you work hard and your are open to a variety of options your DD will find a college soccer home. Also, those schools have a much later time frame so she could find herself finalizing offers as late as the end of her senior year and end up being very happy with where she landed.
 
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With Pace said:
For age groups that have both ecnl and da, the only time the A team is ecnl at Blues is if Baker is the coach. Otherwise, the A team is da. However, there are a few girls that are good enough to make the A team (DA) and have elected instead to play ECNL instead (either at Blues or elsewhere) because they want to play for their high school team.
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This is not accurate at all. Blues coaches field their own teams, and have their own tryouts. There is no A team or B team. Some players want to play DA. Some want to play ECNL. It is up to each coach to put their best roster together. For example, Rogers 03 ECNL team and Bobak's 02-03 DA team were both excellent last season. No way to say one was better than the other.
 
GT45 said:
This is not accurate at all. Blues coaches field their own teams, and have their own tryouts. There is no A team or B team. Some players want to play DA. Some want to play ECNL. It is up to each coach to put their best roster together. For example, Rogers 03 ECNL team and Bobak's 02-03 DA team were both excellent last season. No way to say one was better than the other.
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So what your saying is the Blues don't operate as a club with a hierarchical concept of team levels, but rather a collective group of independent teams under the same banner. Does this mean there isn't a unified development pyramid/path? Are the girls learning similar/same concepts or is it left to the individual coach who put together the team to dictate training?
 
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