Excellent, excellent truth speak here brother. I remember trying to figure what team was showing up back in those days. Basically, SJQ had some of the best 03s, 04s and 05s that could all ball at the highest of levels because of their God given talent of speed, size, athleticism, soccer IQ and just flat out can ball with all the greats. I saw one game where all the top goats played with the 03 team and that made the 04s weaker that day and the 04s would lose because 03s were pushing for playoffs. I honestly believe that my dd was that last 04 team to ball against all the top SJQ 04s and 05s all at once. It was Deza vs Dolinsky down at Del Mar in 2017 bro. I need that video if anyone has a copy. My copy got locked up someone's Dropbox. PD wanted that Doc job btw and moo, with a little improvements on admin, working with feisty players and how to deal with craxy parents like me ((lol, were cool and we all get each other today and 100% all is forgiven)) he would have down a great job but was not offered the gig. We won 2-0 too and I believe the PD 03 won so score board. Now Deza got the gig. My kid still thinks PD was her best coach explaining the passing game to her and his training were what his U18 national team did. It was the best. I also think some players should play up and some should stay with their age group because their leaders. JH over at Legends said that to me as did the other great coaches. Hard to lead as 05 with a team of 03s. One is not better. PD and Deza know how to work a pool of players. PD told my dd so many amazing things about her gifts and abilities and as a family, we cherish them. No satire. If he was the Doc, he said this and that about my dd but because of this and that he was not allowed. I will always wonder, "what if." That was by far the best soccer I saw played with two teams btw K&S. Sorry MLVA vs LAFC, close second, MOO.
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If you want to see another 04 girls team that plays excellent possession soccer, check out the Concorde '04 ECNL team. They are fun to watch.
No one got hurt in our games bro and that right there is what I remember. They were all "go getters" that day and played with ganas but under control
Sorry bro, it's my fault. Outlaw would get so pissed off at me for bringing up the past and saying, "my dd' all the time. Me and K & S go way back, even before the great heist of the GDA over ECNL in 2016 that sewed division between best friends because one was better than the other. KS, I'll PM you. Go Sharks, Go Rebels, Go Surf and go all teams in SD.
Naw not your fault man. You're just being you. It started with all the pool play stuff, although to be fair it has provided some interesting and insightful conversation which is always good.
Thanks for the "no fault" bro. I thought about it again and feel both myself and K&S bring experience to this thread for many reasons. Pool play was done with SJQ and they won the 03 I believe first ever GDA Natty. My dd team was team first and no one allowed to play up. That worked as well for my dd team, they won 2017 natty with "no" play ups allowed unless you got a special waiver or US Soccer demanded it...lol. If pool play is the way, then the great Deza will 100% pull the best from Socal. Those that want to learn from one of the best will make the 1 to 2 hour drive. I would drive from Temecula if Deza recruited my kid and said, "she gots it." I would have been honored and so would have my goat. The guy can flat out coach and teach possession. It's a win win really. The local Del Mar kids and surrounding areas will show the out of towners who the true locals are.
I'm hearing rumblings of some unhappy Sharks parents who's kids are getting pushed aside by new kids coming in. I mean I get it, the timing is rough as they signed up and paid fees for what they thought would be an ECNL slot for the next season, but it's what needs to happen to improve the club's performance like it or not. What if sitting at or near the bottom too much longer meant Sharks lost ECNL altogether? No bueno. Either way, it does sound like a shake up is well underway and while there will inevitably be some collateral damage, it needs to happen.
Hoping to hear more rumblings like that. Parents who are rumbling are unrealistic about their children's levels. Their kids will be much happier and more likely to develop playing in the ECRL team and having a chance to practice their skills and runs versus just chasing after players and balls defensively.
I can confirm + am hearing the same.
I don't understand parents being upset because the club is bringing on better players. If the current ECNL team wasn't consistently losing every game this wouldn't be happening.
Somehow current Sharks parents didn't get the message that ECNL is competitive soccer not rec.
It seems to me that Sharks parents have been running the club and calling the shots for awhile now (at least on the girls side). That needs to change, and hopefully it will.
Maybe the need to recruit players to perform is more of a critique of player development.
100% agree. However you cant look in the rearview.
Sharks have brought on a new DOC to address issues.
Mike is doing exactly what he was hired to do.
If it makes you feel any better Sharks coaches that provided poor player development/results are likely the next to be replaced.
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Natural ability is the most important variable at the youth level. Elite youth teams are elite because they have the most players with the most natural ability. Player development is important for differentiating between players and teams with similar levels of natural ability. More successful teams/clubs tend to attract more players with high levels of natural ability.
This 100%. If anyone actually thinks the winningest clubs year in and year out do so because of their superior development I have a bridge to sell you.
I can understand the parents being upset if their kid was offered an ECNL spot, paid their fees for the upcoming season, and then were told there is a change of plans 'you are now on a lower team'. I would ask for my money back IF that is what is happening. The club made the leadership change at a really bad time (after most clubs finished tryouts).
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Sounds like that’s exactly what’s happening. I’d be asking for a refund, too. Easy to throw stones at unsuspecting Sharks players & parents here, but is it their fault their kids tried out for and made the ECNL team months ago? I think most of us can agree that “anything goes” during tryouts, but demoting kids/teams 2-3 weeks before the season starts is not something I’ve ever heard of before, even at the most cutthroat clubs in the OC. The way this has been described doesn’t feel like business as usual in competitive soccer.
Surf (a club 15 minutes away from Sharks) is going to implement pool play next season. Players will be fighting for playing time week in and week out.
This is Sharks ECNL competition.
It would be dangerous for the previous Sharks players to go head to head against teams like Surf.
It might bruise some Sharks parents egos. But this needed to happen.