Hoping to hear more rumblings like that. Parents who are rumbling are unrealistic about their children's levels. Their kids will be much happier and more likely to develop playing in the ECRL team and having a chance to practice their skills and runs versus just chasing after players and balls defensively.
DMCV Sharks Girls Director
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I can confirm + am hearing the same.
I don't understand parents being upset because the club is bringing on better players. If the current ECNL team wasn't consistently losing every game this wouldn't be happening.
Somehow current Sharks parents didn't get the message that ECNL is competitive soccer not rec.
It seems to me that Sharks parents have been running the club and calling the shots for awhile now (at least on the girls side). That needs to change, and hopefully it will.
Maybe the need to recruit players to perform is more of a critique of player development.
100% agree. However you cant look in the rearview.
Sharks have brought on a new DOC to address issues.
Mike is doing exactly what he was hired to do.
If it makes you feel any better Sharks coaches that provided poor player development/results are likely the next to be replaced.
outside!
DA
Natural ability is the most important variable at the youth level. Elite youth teams are elite because they have the most players with the most natural ability. Player development is important for differentiating between players and teams with similar levels of natural ability. More successful teams/clubs tend to attract more players with high levels of natural ability.
This 100%. If anyone actually thinks the winningest clubs year in and year out do so because of their superior development I have a bridge to sell you.
I can understand the parents being upset if their kid was offered an ECNL spot, paid their fees for the upcoming season, and then were told there is a change of plans 'you are now on a lower team'. I would ask for my money back IF that is what is happening. The club made the leadership change at a really bad time (after most clubs finished tryouts).
OCSoccerDad3
SILVER
Sounds like that’s exactly what’s happening. I’d be asking for a refund, too. Easy to throw stones at unsuspecting Sharks players & parents here, but is it their fault their kids tried out for and made the ECNL team months ago? I think most of us can agree that “anything goes” during tryouts, but demoting kids/teams 2-3 weeks before the season starts is not something I’ve ever heard of before, even at the most cutthroat clubs in the OC. The way this has been described doesn’t feel like business as usual in competitive soccer.
Surf (a club 15 minutes away from Sharks) is going to implement pool play next season. Players will be fighting for playing time week in and week out.
This is Sharks ECNL competition.
It would be dangerous for the previous Sharks players to go head to head against teams like Surf.
It might bruise some Sharks parents egos. But this needed to happen.
soccerparent4
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soccerparent4
BRONZE
Is MacMillan still with the Sharks? Who did MW replace?
Is this a local pool for kids from San Diego or one big giant socal pool? Just curious. How far is too far to drive for a chance to swim with the best and be coached by one of the all-time coaches? Socal Blues ring a bell? Maybe go "Socal Surf?" Someone said Vegas players will be in swimming in the pool? I think that was a joke. Anyone from AZ? If I were the Sharks right now, I would sell that you must be from the County of SD to be on our team. Full rides for those who sacrifice to get there at Surf someone said as well? Surf will be hard to beat. 20 plus YNT calls ups, 11 Natty's and the great Deza. Good luck for second place.
In SD you have 3 options for ECNL...
Surf in north central coastal SD
Sharks in north central coastal SD
Rebels in Chula Vista (by the border)
Blues are Irvine / San Juan Capisteano. (30-40 minute drive with no traffic from North SD)
This is why people are watching what happens with Sharks so closely.
If you want to play GA in SD theres Albion in PB/OB and CitySC in Carlsbad.
As multiple people on this thread have stated theres going to be situations where ECRL Surf players are going to say "screw this I can drive 10 minutes more and play ECNL at Sharks." Before MW was named DOC this would never happen because Sharks coaches/leadership were bad.
We drive 2 hours for my daughters practice.
We did reach out to the sharks when my daughter left rebels and they responded months later..
I always felt the situation at sharks was a bad one with the parents not letting the best players play for shark vs the embarrassment some parents will face if they’re kids got demoted. I’m hoping for the best for sharks.
You are off on the drive times; it is approximately 30 miles from South Carlsbad just to Basilone Road. The Great Park is another solid 20-25 miles. Getting in and out of the Great Park is not easy. You are also assuming NO traffic and speeds that are not realistic. I commuted to Tustin from Carlsbad for around 10 years, I know the drive.
That said, there are plenty of SD players making the drive, the drive is just longer than what you have indicated.
ecsoccermom
BRONZE
Is the pool play just on the girls side or also on the boys side of Surf? Just curious. Saw a boys ECNL game with 14 bench players and at least 8 players who were not even there because of injuries/prior engagements. This was there U19 team I believe.
The rumor is that ANDRÉS DEZA Surfs new DOC will implement pool play next season. Theres pulses and minuses to the approach which people have discussed previously.
It would be interesting if Surf put a couple out of area/state players in the pool + let them practice remotely but brought them in for games.
Desert Hound
DA
Based on their records across ALL age groups, they have a lot of kids on those teams that shouldn't be in the ECNL. So if those kids start losing their spots to ones that can...that is sports.
The timing sucks for players who signed up early on with expectation to play ECNL. I complained one time to a Doc for a bold face lie from the coach. He asked me and I quote, "did you get it writing?" I said "NO! I didnt know I needed to do but I will next time Doc. Thanks for the tip." This is sports Hound and sports can be harsh no doubt it. I feel super sad for the players, but it is youth soccer sports. I can tell anyone here unless you have it writing, anything can go. Were all is good as our kids last goal and nothing is true unless you have it in writing. This is one of the most cut throat sports ever.