That would be interesting. Maybe they can try it out at a tournament, like Surf Cup, and see how it goes. See how the families feel about their kid losing playing time to a kid not on the local roster. But that would never happen.
DMCV Sharks Girls Director
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Ideally, the timing should be before tryouts, but sometimes it can't happen due to many moving parts and doing the best when you can is all Sharks has left right now. The players at Sharks who belong on an ECNL team, will have a place on the ECNL team and benefit from the change because they will likely receive balls more during games. The players who are chasing balls and players will benefit so much more from this change once they get past the different team name. Hopefully, Sharks will do the right thing and refund parents if they choose to leave and not stay on the ECRL team.
MacDre
PREMIER
If I had a top player in the Surf pool, I’d welcome the outside competition. If the out of town player is better, then my player needs to work harder or accept the fact that they aren’t good enough. The players won’t all be local in college so, why does it matter where the players come from in club soccer? A player is either good enough or not. No excuses.
FYI Dre, I use colors now to respond to each take. You know what, true that. I heard a rumor through grape vine news that some of the surfers from Nocal might make the roster and play in the big games that matter? Take what I'm saying with a grain of salt and two shots of Tequila
. ECNL playoffs next year will probably have teams like colleges. Whatever it takes to win baby. No excuses and this is 100% about the survival of the fittest. This is high stakes soccer Dre. I really should write a book on: "How to get involved in girls youth soccer: One dads journey."foreveryoung
SILVER ELITE
This is already happening. The bigger clubs are using their franchise or satellite affiliates to expand their reach beyond the local area and creating a similar "national team" experience to what US soccer does; acting as scouts and inviting the "top players" to train and compete with other "top players" and compete in the bigger tournaments. Basically creating "opportunities" that their smaller or more rural clubs wouldn't offer them. They have to be able to afford the travel of course. So once again, the first criteria of being a "top player" in club soccer is having the money to pay for the travel that is requires.
To be pro in girls soccer you need to be willing to go full time soccer forever young and you best better have rich parents who dont have to be somewhere 9-5 Monday thru Friday to pay them bills. No way a kid could swim in that pool. This is more for home schooled prodigies like OM and few others I know. I'm not against this. I tried to do it. I knew the social life was what my dd loves and no offense, being at my house doing school would suck for her. These types of families have the means, the talent and the connections that only money can buy. Tom Brady said you need to enjoy life more as kid and not just make it about 24/7 soccer soccer soccer soccer 10 months out of the year. The mental stress some parents put on kids is insane, especially the girls. To each his own but man, this has been nuts to watch over the years. OM made it to the top of the Mountain at 15 from hard work and commitment. To be the best, you need to train with the best. You can;t argue that point.
Sombitch
SILVER ELITE
Shit this happened long before Deza
Two Vegas Studs and a Camarillo stud all did this on that 99 team for years
Never attended training and always started
That said all were part of the national team pool -
So you’re saying being benched for the equivalent of a ‘guest’ player from some affiliate is reasonable in a youth sports club/competitive environment?
Maybe smaller clubs could take those benched players on loan… it happens in the professional leagues after all.
MacDre
PREMIER
Yes, I think pay-to-play at times creates weak self entitled adults. ECNL is suppose to be competitive. Losing is part of competition. Why do folks feel just because they pay, their kids get to play in a competitive environment? This is why I think club soccer is essentially “affirmative action” for the rich; because every player is a winner so long as moms and pops has enough scrilla, scratch, paper to make it happen. Pure unadulterated fuckery!
The primary benefit that ECNL should provide is a competitive environment to learn team tactics. However, the vast majority or ECNL and D1 college teams that I have seen play are technically inept. Could you please explain how a group of technically inept folks can learn tactics and be competitive?
So for me, it’s not about the smaller clubs taking on people that have failed to develop technically and/or lack physicality. For me, it’s about being honest and telling these folks that they are not good enough so that they can move on and find something they are good at.
It’s been said that” those that can, do and those that can’t, teach.” So, based on my observations we should have lots of female coaches in the future.
I read this quick but you get a "BOOM" from Crush. I was trying to write want you just wrote for three years. I now see why my dd was kicked to the curb. I had no scrilla or scratch. Oh snapo, no playo!!
SoulTrain
BRONZE
MacMillan is still at Sharks. Last 990 (public information) filed by DMCV in 2019 had her making $265k. You'd think with that kind of jack, their ECNL girls teams wouldn't be in the bottom three of every division, some didn't win a single game last season. I've seen the new girls coming over, it's not going to get any better this year.
Messi>CR7
GOLD
And those that can't play or teach became soccer experts on a youth soccer forum.
The girls moving over to Sharks will make them more competitive than last year. I think Shannon made some mistakes with picking bad coaches for ECNL and not pushing for a more competitive environment immediately. MW should be making coaching changes to most of those ECNL girls teams.
Good info on the 990. One of the only good decisions Mac has made in the last 5 years is hiring MW. How as a leader could she have let it get to this point? Also, how did the board of directors allow the losses to mount year after year without making an action?
MW can't make magic overnight with all the levels. G2009 ECNL team will likely be able to hold their own with recent changes.
outside!
DA
Among the people I knew who had Mac as a coach, she did not have a great reputation. They were much happier when Goran took over the team and the team got more competitive.
Soccerfan2
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$265K? That’s insane!
OCSoccerDad3
SILVER
Did MW bring his entire team over from Albion? Could make for a rough first season in GA for Albion's 2009 girls. If he did bring them over, it will be interesting to see how a GA squad will stack up in ECNL. What are they doing with the existing Sharks ECNL team? Sending them all to ECRL?
I only hear about rumors, word is that some of the Albion G2009 GA players moved over.
No idea of how many or what Sharks plan to do with existing ECNL players.
futboldad1
PREMIER
Even worse before??......wo! as both his teams finished 14 out of 14 SW ECNL teams......Sharks as a club had an average finish of 13 eek..........
the threat of losing ecnl due to poor performance year on year across all age groups seems to have finally brought much needed change.......
For 2 hours a week. And a couple of years ago noting was reported. She must have renegotiated her contract.
Sometimes the best parts of an organization's financials are not disclosed on the 990s.
AB5 may have made the difference in reporting as an employee vs contractor?