D1 college soccer under threat

CaliKlines said:
#14 on NC State roster played in UEFA Champions League for AC Sparta Prague. Even mentions it in her bio.
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Is it possible she didn't get paid? I thought the NCAA wouldn't allow a person to play a sport in college if they had been paid professionally no matter the sport. Paid for skiing couldn't play football.
 
youthsportsugh said:
Is it possible she didn't get paid? I thought the NCAA wouldn't allow a person to play a sport in college if they had been paid professionally no matter the sport. Paid for skiing couldn't play football.
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They are allowed to pay reasonable expenses and what constitutes reasonable expenses is debatable. However, I was under the impression that California kinda punked the NCAA into changing the rules regarding college athletes not getting paid.
 
MacDre said:
They are allowed to pay reasonable expenses and what constitutes reasonable expenses is debatable. However, I was under the impression that California kinda punked the NCAA into changing the rules regarding college athletes not getting paid.
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If Cal was able to punk the NCAA that would be impressive
 
espola said:
I have seen 12-meter yachts up close on display and on the water in San Diego. I think you need at least 6 people just to get away from the dock, not including a towboat (unless they have installed a disqualifying auxiliary motor). I have crewed on a 470 and came home with bruises all over my body. The first time the boat kicked up on a crosswind plane the owner/skipper looked at me with a big smile and shouted "Don't move - Hold that position!"
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If you can't afford a crew so your dear daughter can race, maybe you need to pay more attention to your portfolio. ;)


Yes, the whole thing is absurd. Yacht racing is not an individual sport. On the other hand, neither is soccer, but plenty of people treat it as such.
 
MacDre said:
As real as it gets homeboy. College soccer is the pinnacle of rich kid entitlement. The USWNT is the pinnacle to success loser. If your kid doesn’t make it, it’s time to move on to something that you’re are talented in.
Receiving the second place trophy of college soccer while pretending that they are soccer players instead of focusing on education and career is the pinnacle of stupidity my friend.

I asked a Power 5 coach what he hated most about his job. His response was all the spoiled entitled young adults that they have to bench for the first time because their parents financed the lie that they were legit soccer players.

If you’re concerned about relationships, I think you’ll have more opportunities for relationships by playing club and joining a sorority/fraternity.
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Whoa there, cowboy. "parents financed the lie that they were legit soccer players"? Listen, Coach Cromwell, if there's a shithead on your bench there's no need to look any further than the closest mirror. Girls break their fucking balls to get a look at a college soccer team and now it's "pinnacle of rich kid entitlement"? A very small population are on the SingerFitFinder.com program. The rest of them start making incredible sacrifices at a very early age and it doesn't stop. Money or no bullshit... that's bullshit to drop "entitlement" like that.
 
espola said:
I have seen 12-meter yachts up close on display and on the water in San Diego. I think you need at least 6 people just to get away from the dock, not including a towboat (unless they have installed a disqualifying auxiliary motor). I have crewed on a 470 and came home with bruises all over my body. The first time the boat kicked up on a crosswind plane the owner/skipper looked at me with a big smile and shouted "Don't move - Hold that position!"
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It is so fun to watch. I used to watch the America's Cup in the 90's.
 
Ellejustus said:
It's great what you do coach. Helping all kids get into college. I think we need a pro pathway asap and then the others can go for college like the Morris kid up North. Men's soccer is bad and I mean bad. We talk about the girls hear all the time and the only time we talk about men's soccer is how come we din;t advance to world cup. The DA destroyed the men's game too. What a waste of money and resources. This was one big business move and it failed. Time for someone else to come up with a better plan. College can be in the plan but it can;t be, The Plan for 100%. That has not produced a winner for the men so that plan sucks!!! New plan? The world is watching, the girls will lose if we don't fix things quickly imo. I hope I'm wrong....
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nope I jumped on the college soccer is a waste bandwagon. My son is done because it is bad and I mean bad.. and the girls game... it should be pro or go home... why even have youth leagues because at 12 my kid was definitely not cutting it. I should have switched then.
 
MacDre said:
What kind of problems do you foresee?
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SEC is the only one that can truly pay talent at a high level and they are not in CA for one. It tips the talent to one or two conferences for two (@MacDre is so on board with this).... allows booster access which leads to Armon Gilliam in a hot tub with known game fixer and Larry Johnson from dirty poor Texas driving a Corvette to Shark's after a loss... goes against everything Title IX stands for as there will not be a paycheck for women field hockey players... those are just the starting thoughts... but it is ok because we need to get rid of it all anyway.
 
vegasguy said:
It is so fun to watch. I used to watch the America's Cup in the 90's.
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What made yacht racing for me was the 12-meter races in Australia when Dennis Conner brought back the Cup, what with the on-board cameras, helicopter views, and good analytical commentary. Up until then I had seen sailboats as kind of like floating campers.
 
espola said:
What made yacht racing for me was the 12-meter races in Australia when Dennis Conner brought back the Cup, what with the on-board cameras, helicopter views, and good analytical commentary. Up until then I had seen sailboats as kind of like floating campers.
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Did you see the movie Wind... not like breaking wind but it was called Wind with Jennifer Grey and Matthew Modine... I love the science behind the sport.
 
vegasguy said:
SEC is the only one that can truly pay talent at a high level and they are not in CA for one. It tips the talent to one or two conferences for two (@MacDre is so on board with this).... allows booster access which leads to Armon Gilliam in a hot tub with known game fixer and Larry Johnson from dirty poor Texas driving a Corvette to Shark's after a loss... goes against everything Title IX stands for as there will not be a paycheck for women field hockey players... those are just the starting thoughts... but it is ok because we need to get rid of it all anyway.
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I loved that team btw.
 
vegasguy said:
nope I jumped on the college soccer is a waste bandwagon. My son is done because it is bad and I mean bad.. and the girls game... it should be pro or go home... why even have youth leagues because at 12 my kid was definitely not cutting it. I should have switched then.
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Back in days when I was a young lad, I recall telling an elder about my wants. They laughed and said son “people in hell want ice water” and nobody cares about what you want. Study hard because once you earn an education no one can take it from you.
vegasguy said:
Did you see the movie Wind... not like breaking wind but it was called Wind with Jennifer Grey and Matthew Modine... I love the science behind the sport.
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I always avoided sailing because I have a family full of fishermen and I didn’t want to get put to work. If anyone goes to the Bahamas for vacation sailing lessons are free on my Island for kids under 16. Disney is building a resort too.
 
Ok, the social experience is over for this lad. I see with my ears and I hear with my eyes. It's a unique gift set I have. I love college sports and I want all of your dd to go and play if that's what they want. Let's keep college soccer alive and well :)
 
vegasguy said:
Did you see the movie Wind... not like breaking wind but it was called Wind with Jennifer Grey and Matthew Modine... I love the science behind the sport.
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I took sailing lessons while in the Navy in the Philippines, and then in the 80's in San Diego. A group at work started renting boats big enough to spend Saturday night anchored down off the Coronado Islands in a happy time when you didn't need a Mexican fishing license. Aside from the skin diving in the almost untouched bottom near the islands, there was always something new and interesting to see - the boat was followed by a shark one time, and two gray whales came over to look at us one day. There was one summer when the surface water temp got up to tropical levels, so there were flying fish and pelagic craps all over the surface, just a mile or so off the San Diego beaches. We took one 10-day trip in a 41-foot up along the Channel Islands, stopping at Catalina going up and back and anchoring at three different sites at Santa Cruz Island for a couple of days each.
 
CaliKlines said:
#14 on NC State roster played in UEFA Champions League for AC Sparta Prague. Even mentions it in her bio.
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Well smack my ass and call me Susan! Are there bylaws that allow for foreign pro contracts? My older daughter had an opportunity to play in Italy out of HS, but passed. Didn’t think of asking about relinquished amateur status, since she really never considered it.
 
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