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I agree with you. It's a fact that athletes continue to develop, regardless of the sport, as they grow and mature as players. How many 18-year-old soccer players are playing pro? Like right from high school? My DD's D1 coach once told her, "Women's soccer players, in general, haven't fully developed until 22-23 years old." Of course there are rare exceptions. But with that thinking, the NWSL should be loaded with fresh out of high school players who bypassed college.

During recruiting, one of the coaches told my daughter - a GK - that a GK's peak is in her late 20s when her physical abilities can match how she reads/understands the game. The latter piece will continue beyond that so that greater knowledge can contribute to improved play even if the physical skills plateau or even regress. That applies to some degree to field players, too (I can think of some players who use that craftiness into their 30s so that they remain effective)
 
I agree with you. It's a fact that athletes continue to develop, regardless of the sport, as they grow and mature as players. How many 18-year-old soccer players are playing pro? Like right from high school? My DD's D1 coach once told her, "Women's soccer players, in general, haven't fully developed until 22-23 years old." Of course there are rare exceptions. But with that thinking, the NWSL should be loaded with fresh out of high school players who bypassed college.
Correct! Look at Bethany Balcer. Just called into senior US women’s national team camp, and fresh off being asked to train with OL in France. Played NAIA college soccer, undrafted by NWSL. Went to a cattle call tryout made the Reign team, ROY. Now is absolutely killing it as a pro. These players and stories like this are literally all over women’s soccer.
 
This is dumbest shit I’ve read on this forum all year. Including the covid talk. You have zero clue about anything related to women’s sports, women’s physiology, or soccer. I’d love to go on and provide the decades worth of actual data, studies, player profiles, statistical analysis of not only American female players but also international players that clearly shows not only physical development in ages 15-18,18-22, 22-24 and beyond but more importantly technically, tactical and mental advances. FFS what is up with this forum sometimes.
I agree. But you are still talking about the “Internationals” with a higher ceiling that were I’d early. I’m not saying elite athletes stop growing at 15. However, I am saying the vast majority of folks hit their ceiling when they are 15 or earlier. The folks that you are talking about are the exception to the rule due to the exceptional genetics and hard-work. The few folks that develop in college turn pro.
 
I agree. But you are still talking about the “Internationals” with a higher ceiling that were I’d early. I’m not saying elite athletes stop growing at 15. However, I am saying the vast majority of folks hit their ceiling when they are 15 or earlier. The folks that you are talking about are the exception to the rule due to the exceptional genetics and hard-work. The few folks that develop in college turn pro.
No you said “girls” stop developing in soccer at 15. Which is not only wrong it’s sexist as all hell. I then stated many points and only once mentioned international players as research can include them as well. You cherry picked that one word. So let me be clear. ALL girls who play soccer show development past age 15. Also Genetics means shit. No one is running a DNA panel on Suzy soccer player to determine her chromosome make up. what your doing is what dumb soccer dads do, saying their daughters have good “genes” because her dad played some ball 30 years ago. You are not a scientist. Get over your ego and stop wasting people’s time with your pseudo soccer dad bullshit. You use all the buzz words of a soccer hack. Genetics, hard work, goat, elite, etc. just put down your keyboard find a quiet place and think hard. Then go do some actual research. I can send you some links if you need help and when your head starts hurting and it will, keep going that means your getting smarter.
 
Correct! Look at Bethany Balcer. Just called into senior US women’s national team camp, and fresh off being asked to train with OL in France. Played NAIA college soccer, undrafted by NWSL. Went to a cattle call tryout made the Reign team, ROY. Now is absolutely killing it as a pro. These players and stories like this are literally all over women’s soccer.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And aren’t you embellishing with your claim that “stories like this are literally all over women’s soccer.”

I’ve witnessed the women aged 25-30 struggling chasing the first team carrot at my kids club. I leave room for the possibility that I wrong because my viewpoint is based on my limited personal experience.
 
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And aren’t you embellishing with your claim that “stories like this are literally all over women’s soccer.”

I’ve witnessed the women aged 25-30 struggling chasing the first team carrot at my kids club. I leave room for the possibility that I wrong because my viewpoint is based on my limited personal experience.
Ok I will play your game. How many players do you want ? What number satisfies you?
 
No you said “girls” stop developing in soccer at 15. Which is not only wrong it’s sexist as all hell. I then stated many points and only once mentioned international players as research can include them as well. You cherry picked that one word. So let me be clear. ALL girls who play soccer show development past age 15. Also Genetics means shit. No one is running a DNA panel on Suzy soccer player to determine her chromosome make up. what your doing is what dumb soccer dads do, saying their daughters have good “genes” because her dad played some ball 30 years ago. You are not a scientist. Get over your ego and stop wasting people’s time with your pseudo soccer dad bullshit. You use all the buzz words of a soccer hack. Genetics, hard work, goat, elite, etc. just put down your keyboard find a quiet place and think hard. Then go do some actual research. I can send you some links if you need help and when your head starts hurting and it will, keep going that means your getting smarter.
I also maintain what I said. My point is that by 15 it’s obvious who has what it takes. Back in my days, it was the rare freshman that could play varsity (male or female) that had what it takes. So to be clear, my position is that if you ain’t got it by 15, you ain’t gonna get it. Period.
 
This is dumbest shit I’ve read on this forum all year. Including the covid talk. You have zero clue about anything related to women’s sports, women’s physiology, or soccer. I’d love to go on and provide the decades worth of actual data, studies, player profiles, statistical analysis of not only American female players but also international players that clearly shows not only physical development in ages 15-18,18-22, 22-24 and beyond but more importantly technically, tactical and mental advances. FFS what is up with this forum sometimes.

Congrats @MSK357 and @Grace T. @suzysoccer1 says you are off the hook.
 
You can’t substantiate your ridiculous claim. Your analysis is funny as hell but mostly puffery and baseless claims.
No I actually can. Man up dude. How many? Also you actually saying the phrase “back in my day” and your not trying to be funny is sad.
 
I agree with you. It's a fact that athletes continue to develop, regardless of the sport, as they grow and mature as players. How many 18-year-old soccer players are playing pro? Like right from high school? My DD's D1 coach once told her, "Women's soccer players, in general, haven't fully developed until 22-23 years old." Of course there are rare exceptions. But with that thinking, the NWSL should be loaded with fresh out of high school players who bypassed college.
One can still dream that, right 49? It's only my dad dream for my dd life. She actually wants to go to school and do media or communications. Also, thanks Suzy for sharing with us. I swear I'm trying to be a better dad. Some of these dads ((Dre)) need help and do not speak on behalf of the rest of us.
 
No I actually can. Man up dude. How many? Also you actually saying the phrase “back in my day” and your not trying to be funny is sad.
Giving numbers without context doesn’t help. Please continue to entertain us with your delusions. When was the last time you had your meds adjusted? I think you need to talk with your doctor about prescribing different “happy pills” because your current regimen isn’t working for you.
 
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And aren’t you embellishing with your claim that “stories like this are literally all over women’s soccer.”

I’ve witnessed the women aged 25-30 struggling chasing the first team carrot at my kids club. I leave room for the possibility that I wrong because my viewpoint is based on my limited personal experience.
Not embellishing anything. This is ca
One can still dream that, right 49? It's only my dad dream for my dd life. She actually wants to go to school and do media or communications. Also, thanks Suzy for sharing with us. I swear I'm trying to be a better dad. Some of these dads ((Dre)) need help and do not speak on behalf of the rest of us.
I do apologize for the responses. I wish I could just say who I am. I think then the message gets across with more of an impact. However I have kids and their soccer journey needs to be their own free of additional soccer turmoil brought on by this forum. I would say this as my parting words to soccer dads. Your daughters love you and want to please you, but at some point they learn who you are. They hear you talk. Girls observe body language and voice tone different than boys. Girls will alter their opinion at times to make you proud of them. Try to not devalue them. Soccer is emotionally hard for all players. Many do not yet posses the life skills to process the physical and psychological aspects of being a female athlete in a male dominated sport. Be a supporter of them. All of them. Trust me they have enough to deal with from coaches, teammates, competitors and mostly themselves without soccer dads comparing their existence and experiences to their daughters soccer career. Yes this is preachy and again for that I am sorry. It just gets to be too much in this forum sometimes with the macho bullshit.
 
I agree. But you are still talking about the “Internationals” with a higher ceiling that were I’d early. I’m not saying elite athletes stop growing at 15. However, I am saying the vast majority of folks hit their ceiling when they are 15 or earlier. The folks that you are talking about are the exception to the rule due to the exceptional genetics and hard-work. The few folks that develop in college turn pro.

My dude, you are fun to have here on the forum, but you say crazy shit sometimes :D
 
Giving numbers without context doesn’t help. Please continue to entertain us with your delusions. When was the last time you had your meds adjusted? I think you need to talk with your doctor about prescribing different “happy pills” because your current regimen isn’t working for you.
Yeah I figured this would be your response. Uneducated, personal attacks, merit less and void of anything to offer anybody of substance on here. You offer nothing to this forum. Your a waste of everyone’s time. You would of been laughed of this forum 5-7 years ago. You post nothing but anti soccer girl rhetoric. You think your some kind of in the know soccer dad. You don’t know shit. I’ve been kicking your ass all day on this forum, and your reply was about happy pills! That’s it. So why don’t you go take some pills to grow a bigger dick and balls. Merry Christmas
 
Not embellishing anything. This is ca

I do apologize for the responses. I wish I could just say who I am. I think then the message gets across with more of an impact. However I have kids and their soccer journey needs to be their own free of additional soccer turmoil brought on by this forum. I would say this as my parting words to soccer dads. Your daughters love you and want to please you, but at some point they learn who you are. They hear you talk. Girls observe body language and voice tone different than boys. Girls will alter their opinion at times to make you proud of them. Try to not devalue them. Soccer is emotionally hard for all players. Many do not yet posses the life skills to process the physical and psychological aspects of being a female athlete in a male dominated sport. Be a supporter of them. All of them. Trust me they have enough to deal with from coaches, teammates, competitors and mostly themselves without soccer dads comparing their existence and experiences to their daughters soccer career. Yes this is preachy and again for that I am sorry. It just gets to be too much in this forum sometimes with the macho bullshit.
Men have messed up Suzy and i 100% have learned that from my wife and my dd. Thanks for your strong words.
 
I think you are missing the point. A coach should not be telling a player she'd never play again. A coach should be telling a player how to improve their performance to earn playing time.

I am astounded that so many people think that all of the 20 something women that came forward did so because of nothing. A coach should be creating an environment that attracts players. Neil has failed at that.
Twenty women over how many years? Ten years? When did he start?
 
Yeah I figured this would be your response. Uneducated, personal attacks, merit less and void of anything to offer anybody of substance on here. You offer nothing to this forum. Your a waste of everyone’s time. You would of been laughed of this forum 5-7 years ago. You post nothing but anti soccer girl rhetoric. You think your some kind of in the know soccer dad. You don’t know shit. I’ve been kicking your ass all day on this forum, and your reply was about happy pills! That’s it. So why don’t you go take some pills to grow a bigger dick and balls. Merry Christmas
So many on here told me I was on meds and one crazy ass dad driving my "goat" all over socal chasing medals for myself, like some uncle Rico. I played sports and I was good, but not even close to hw good my dd is. I was happy in Temecula driving 5 minutes to practice and games 10 minutes away. It all changed when the great Tad had to start checking out my dd games and go to all her games and take notes. My wife grew up with a friend that played for the Legend coach who knows more about females then any coach out there, for 7 years. He went to her weeding. It was fun back then. The men messed this all up. If ALL THE MEN would just own up to their pride, greed and trying to play through dd soccer career, then all the better. I can say 100% I never forced my dd or bribed her to play soccer so she can play in college so I can look good as a parent. Hell no. My dd plays for the love of the game. That's why I would go with her if she wanted to ball in AZ at Surf Cup.
 
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