Do us all a favor. When this is all over, don't write a history of it.
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Do us all a favor. When this is all over, don't write a history of it.
Meh. It wasn’t even my argument. My friend Megan who writes for the Washington post, among others, wrote about it at the time.
Bruddah IZ
DA
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Texas still headed downward. It's almost as if lines of latitude are more important than policies......doesn't mean it won't go up....it looks like the line of rising cases is moving southward from the Canadian border.
cbsaustin.com
Number of newly reported coronavirus cases decline in Texas
The number of newly reported coronavirus virus cases in Texas has declined and the rolling average of cases in the state is down 36. 1%. The Texas health department on Sunday reported 1,905 new cases, compared to 3,673 newly reported cases on Saturday. Data from Johns Hopkins University shows...
cbsaustin.com
kickingandscreaming
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Is J&J going to be delivered in time to avoid much of a rise in cases? If Israel is any indication, CFR should be much lower regardless of a rise in cases.Texas still headed downward. It's almost as if lines of latitude are more important than policies......doesn't mean it won't go up....it looks like the line of rising cases is moving southward from the Canadian border.
Number of newly reported coronavirus cases decline in Texas
The number of newly reported coronavirus virus cases in Texas has declined and the rolling average of cases in the state is down 36. 1%. The Texas health department on Sunday reported 1,905 new cases, compared to 3,673 newly reported cases on Saturday. Data from Johns Hopkins University shows...
Confirmed!!! Kill the unborn and kill the elderly get's you a job. Good job team!!!
Levine will now oversee Health and Human Services offices and programs across the U.S.
In Pennsylvania, Levine mismanaged the pandemic last year instituting an order that required nursing homes and other assisted care facilities to admit COVID-19 patients. Like its neighbor New York, Pennsylvania’s order put Covid positive patients in facilities with those most at risk of death from the virus, the elderly and people with disabilities.
Levine will now oversee Health and Human Services offices and programs across the U.S.
In Pennsylvania, Levine mismanaged the pandemic last year instituting an order that required nursing homes and other assisted care facilities to admit COVID-19 patients. Like its neighbor New York, Pennsylvania’s order put Covid positive patients in facilities with those most at risk of death from the virus, the elderly and people with disabilities.
Hüsker Dü
DA
You talking about the 2016 election still?
Bruddah IZ
DA
WTG Cali!!
Bruddah IZ
DA
I remember your disappearing act.
latitude doesn’t explain why TX is ahead of FL.Texas still headed downward. It's almost as if lines of latitude are more important than policies......doesn't mean it won't go up....it looks like the line of rising cases is moving southward from the Canadian border.
Number of newly reported coronavirus cases decline in Texas
The number of newly reported coronavirus virus cases in Texas has declined and the rolling average of cases in the state is down 36. 1%. The Texas health department on Sunday reported 1,905 new cases, compared to 3,673 newly reported cases on Saturday. Data from Johns Hopkins University shows...
I think it helps to look at the post-peak change to variant and the post-peak change to behavior.
FL is halfway into a nasty post-peak change to variant. All three have a significant post-peak change to behavior. TX dropped the mask mandate, FL has spring break, and CA opened restaurants.
The other question is what happened to Michigan. NY shot themselves in the foot by opening up to save Cuomo. But why MI?
Partial answer to why MI has had a nasty March:
www.clickondetroit.com
Many Michigan COVID restrictions eased starting today
The state of Michigan is easing COVID-19 pandemic restrictions in several areas including restaurants and bars.
www.clickondetroit.com
Desert Hound
DA
And yet all 3 have about the same cases per million and deaths per million.
One has to ask themselves...why did CA shut down if the outcome is the same as TX and FL?
I posted above a graph that shows CA still has 70% or so of all students not in any kind of in person class. TX and FL have had in person classes now since the fall.
Just on the kid side alone, CA has screwed parents/kids. And especially the poor and lower middle class. And for what benefit?
It has been hard to justify what CA has done for a long time. And as the data comes in...even more so.
This is fascinating coming from you. So already we can see the affect right?Partial answer to why MI has had a nasty March:
Many Michigan COVID restrictions eased starting today
The state of Michigan is easing COVID-19 pandemic restrictions in several areas including restaurants and bars.
Cases started going up early March. Lets say March 5. So an immediate rise after mandates lifted...and only a slight loosening at that.
But when we look at TX who dropped ALL restrictions within a few days of MI...we see ZERO rise. The decline continues.
So square that with your never ending restaurant theory? If MI opening up partially their restaurants is the reason for their bad month, how come TX who opened everything is not having a bad month?
By the way what are you going to blame for the lack of rise in cases in TX? You were aghast they opened up.
March weather in TX might be a little different from MI. Could be a second factor there.
Sorry. The system is complicated. You don't get to look at only one thing and draw a meaningful conclusion.
You look at ten things in 1000 places, run a regression, and see whether there are any of the important things are controllable.
The controllable elements are things like masks, dining, outdoors, distance, ventilation, and vaccines.
You going to help with any of these, or are you still playing for team virus?
Some of these things have more of an impact than others (often by several magnitudes: case in point masks are NOT as good as vaccines)...as I mentioned before, it has to be more of a coincidence that the states in the northern latitudes (or alternatively near the Canadian border) are rising or stalled.
Several magnitudes?
Nice rhetoric, but do you have any evidence that one thing is 10^4 times as good as another?
I do not think that phrase means what you think it does.
Masks cause about a 70% decrease in transmission. 2 dose vaccines seem likely to cause around a 95% decrease.
Less than one order of magnitude. Not "several".
Desert Hound
DA
That is funny.
Didn't you just post that maybe the bad month was due to restaurants open?
I get whiplash sometimes watching you explain why something happened somewhere and then have a different reason why another place who did the same thing doesn't count when called on it
I was looking for what changed in MI between Feb and March.
If you have a better option, put it out there.
Variant b.1.1.7 isn’t a big deal there yet (I think). Wetather in March has been better than Feb.
But, if you have a real option for what went wrong in MI, post it.
Or, keep reposting misleading graphs from right wing twitter feeds. Perhaps another upper midwest chart that ignores most cases because it excludes the fall of 2020?
Sorry this is probably one of the most divorced thing you've said from the real world. Despite the mask mandates, Europe wasn't able to contain a winter wave let alone a resurgent wave now. Los Angeles despite having one since spring ended up as one of the worst places in the US. But the vaccine has caused a tremendous drop in Israel and the UK (though with the UK it's hard to divorce from lockdown protocols). The 2 numbers are close only in your theoretical fantasy world. One works, the other one doesn't, in controlling waves.
It's probably because your 70% exists in a world where people like Fauci can keep their masks on when the cameras aren't rolling, part of the population doesn't say no thanks, people like Biden wear proper fitting ones without them having to be touched and pulled up by dirty fingers constantly, people without medical training like kids suddenly learn to properly wear mask, people don't constantly wash cloth mask and dispose of surgical masks after a single use, gaiters and bandanas aren't allowed, people don't get encouraged to use them to engage in more risky behavior, people use them for limited amounts of time to reduce short term exposures, people replace them if they get wet and people can stand to use them even in the home.