Bad News Thread

kickingandscreaming said:
How did they differentiate mask-wearing from distancing? I'd appreciate any links.
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The Roosevelt study is misleading because it found that those wearing masks were generally more cautious (for example, avoiding common areas). I agree that being more cautious is a good way to reduce virus transmission.

The county by county analysis has also come under heavy criticism, is a bit of CDC propaganda put out to justify their priors, but the explanation as to why is somewhat beyond my skills. One key criticism, though, is that it examined state wide mandates, but examined county data, even though counties varied by policies and severity of mask mandates (e.g. Los Angeles v. Bakersfield....Miami v. Tallahassee). The rebuttal to the county by county analysis is that some people have done side by side comparisons of counties with mask mandates and neighboring ones without....it controls for things like variants and state mandates as a result....there hasn't been much difference between such neighboring counties, which tend to rise and fall at roughly the same time.
 
Desert Hound said:
Aren't they a visible sign it is OK to hang out? I think you have it backwards in terms of what many think regarding masks and socializing.
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Kind of the opposite in my experience.

The people with chin straps want to get close. The people with masks on 24/7 want you to stay away.
 
Grace T. said:
Meh. He made a technical point about what magnitude means in math when I was using it colloquially. He tried to rebut a self-evident point (that vaccines have the capability of ending the current crisis, if not the actual pandemic, while masks have utterly failed in that regard despite very rigorous mandates such as in Spain) by using said technicality and then went into crazy land by making a point that masks and vaccines are roughly equivalent (which he later had to clarify and back down on). Not exactly his, or your, finest hour....of the many stumbles, that overreach was probably one of the worst because it puts him in the same crazy train as "masks are as good as vaccines". Sorry if the crazy train caught my attention more.
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Orders of magnitude more?
 
dad4 said:
The problem is that you do not have the stats background to be able see it. Until last week, you still wanted to do a policy comparison between 3 different states with 3 different variants of the virus. That is not the recommendation of a competent statistician.
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You don't say.
 
dad4 said:
We never get anywhere. 12 months in and team virus is still arguing against mask mandates.
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You don't have the background in stats, public policy, and epidemiology to get anywhere beyond the last 12 months. You've totally ignored the 12,000 plus global pandemics we've had since 1978.
 
Grace T. said:
The Roosevelt study is misleading because it found that those wearing masks were generally more cautious (for example, avoiding common areas). I agree that being more cautious is a good way to reduce virus transmission.
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What was the Roosevelt's recovery rate? Is virus transmission bad?
 
dad4 said:
You lost me there.

How does in-home transmission explain how the virus gets from one house to another?

And, if masks can help stop the virus from entering a new home, why would that not be useful towards ending the pandemic?
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Pandemics and virus's aren't going anywhere no matter what we do. It's a good thing your immune system is designed to deal with virus's. Your immune system is tired of you thinking that a single virus is going to take down the entire human race in the absence of some type of government intervention. Your DNA is trying to think of a way to prove that it can take care of you just like has against SARs-1 and all the other virus that you've dealt with during the last 12,00 pandemics since 1978. The problem is that you don't have a background in anything but stats.
 
I know this is the ‘Bad News’ thread... but anyone hear a lot about ‘Super Spreader’ events recently?

Seriously, aside from reporting on possible or potential spread, this aspect of the COVID threat seems to have been minimized.

I don’t know if it is masks, social distancing, indoor vs outdoor activities, etc., but some universally adopted practices do seem to be making an impact on these types of events.
 
N00B said:
I know this is the ‘Bad News’ thread... but anyone hear a lot about ‘Super Spreader’ events recently?

Seriously, aside from reporting on possible or potential spread, this aspect of the COVID threat seems to have been minimized.

I don’t know if it is masks, social distancing, indoor vs outdoor activities, etc., but some universally adopted practices do seem to be making an impact on these types of events.
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Excellent point! My feeling is that we’ve vaccinated a very large pet of the most vulnerable (65+).
 
Creepy Doc Billy Says He Knows When the World’s Coronavirus Crisis Will Be Over – Not This Year.

The Microsoft founder said the health crisis has been an “incredible tragedy,” but one bright spot has been the arrival of vaccines. “By the end of 2022 we should be basically completely back to normal,” Gates said in an interview

A picture is worth something and this little boy knows WTF is going on. "Get that crap away from me." Look at his eyes. This is insane!!!

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