Bad News Thread

The whole dementia thing isn't news. We knew we voted for a frail old man who will hire and listen to competent people.

So far, so good. A couple appointments I don't like, but mostly he is holding up his end of the bargain.

If we wanted an athlete, we'd have President Hawley or President AOC. I am glad we don't.

At least you are honest about the dementia thing. Not everyone on the left or the media has been. The next question is how far along is he and how does that impact his ability to do his job (my mother is almost a year behind him and she certainly wouldn't be capable of a high powered job like that any more). And if he doesn't have those capacities, how do we know he'll hire competent people? Somebody needs to be guiding him....who is it?
 
At least you are honest about the dementia thing. Not everyone on the left or the media has been. The next question is how far along is he and how does that impact his ability to do his job (my mother is almost a year behind him and she certainly wouldn't be capable of a high powered job like that any more). And if he doesn't have those capacities, how do we know he'll hire competent people? Somebody needs to be guiding him....who is it?
I thought Jen Psaki was our President, she seems to be the only one that can speak for him since apparently he is not capable himself.
 
At least you are honest about the dementia thing. Not everyone on the left or the media has been. The next question is how far along is he and how does that impact his ability to do his job (my mother is almost a year behind him and she certainly wouldn't be capable of a high powered job like that any more). And if he doesn't have those capacities, how do we know he'll hire competent people? Somebody needs to be guiding him....who is it?
See, the FUD thing doesn't work. I can look at his VP and cabinet picks, and assume he delegates to them.

It reminds me of Reagan's second term. RR wasn't all that sharp by that point, either. But Bush did fine.

If you want to get over 50%, you need a new strategy. If you try to tear down the other guy, you just remind me of Trump.

And thinking of Trump makes me remember why I voted for Biden in the first place.
 
See, the FUD thing doesn't work. I can look at his VP and cabinet picks, and assume he delegates to them.

It reminds me of Reagan's second term. RR wasn't all that sharp by that point, either. But Bush did fine.

If you want to get over 50%, you need a new strategy. If you try to tear down the other guy, you just remind me of Trump.

And thinking of Trump makes me remember why I voted for Biden in the first place.
We've been played, by both sides Daddy. Wake up or be a part of the liars club.
 
See, the FUD thing doesn't work. I can look at his VP and cabinet picks, and assume he delegates to them.

It reminds me of Reagan's second term. RR wasn't all that sharp by that point, either. But Bush did fine.

If you want to get over 50%, you need a new strategy. If you try to tear down the other guy, you just remind me of Trump.

And thinking of Trump makes me remember why I voted for Biden in the first place.
One of the early rules in life I learned (both work and personal) has been to never assume anything. It's dangerous.

While in the realm of fairness, I don't think the comparison with Reagan holds up. While Reagan was certainly showing signs of decline, he isn't as far gone as Biden with the stumbles, forgetfulness, dodging press conferences speeches and interviews, and getting lost mid sentence (which is a sign that he is really far advanced....my mother for example forgets she said things and loses things, but doesn't lose track midway through sentences...Biden didn't even do that last year during his limited public engagements).

I agree with the tear down thing. Since Obama, we've had Presidents who have only tried to tear down the other guy. But I also think the Rs have been tired of just taking things (like the Romney binders of women or the dog thing) and need to learn to fight back, particularly given how obvius the media has its thumb on the scale.

But I agree with watfly that the extent of Biden's dementia was not reported widely and the media went to great lengths to not report or focus on it. I don't think a single mainstream news outlet did a "Does Biden have dementia?" story during the election (only one I recall was CNN which tried to discredit the report as Republican propaganda). If he does have a capacity issue, it should have been fully explored and disclosed to the voters so they could make an informed decision. Unlike you, most of the left and media is still denying the dementia, and low information voters are only starting to get clued into it.
 
One of the early rules in life I learned (both work and personal) has been to never assume anything. It's dangerous.

While in the realm of fairness, I don't think the comparison with Reagan holds up. While Reagan was certainly showing signs of decline, he isn't as far gone as Biden with the stumbles, forgetfulness, dodging press conferences speeches and interviews, and getting lost mid sentence (which is a sign that he is really far advanced....my mother for example forgets she said things and loses things, but doesn't lose track midway through sentences...Biden didn't even do that last year during his limited public engagements).

I agree with the tear down thing. Since Obama, we've had Presidents who have only tried to tear down the other guy. But I also think the Rs have been tired of just taking things (like the Romney binders of women or the dog thing) and need to learn to fight back, particularly given how obvius the media has its thumb on the scale.

But I agree with watfly that the extent of Biden's dementia was not reported widely and the media went to great lengths to not report or focus on it. I don't think a single mainstream news outlet did a "Does Biden have dementia?" story during the election (only one I recall was CNN which tried to discredit the report as Republican propaganda). If he does have a capacity issue, it should have been fully explored and disclosed to the voters so they could make an informed decision. Unlike you, most of the left and media is still denying the dementia, and low information voters are only starting to get clued into it.
Where two fight no one is right and the kids lose every freaking time. Selfishness runs deep in all of us Grace.
 
Seriously, with south africa heading into winter how is this happening if south africa variant is really that bad. Demographics yes help, but the AIDS crisis does not. Density is high in the south african cities. The WSJ article speculates but the only real solid theory would be South Africa is at herd immunity and just massively undercounted the winter (their summer) wave due to poor testing. That, or the test is missing the SA variant, but there's no massive reports of people getting sick in South Africa. I'm skeptical of herd immunity claims. If herd immunity really was in the 40% range, Belgium should be there and Sweden should be close, and NY is there, but we are seeing upticks in cases (yeah, I know variants raise the level but so should the SA variant). Could South Africa really be in the 60-80% range and the symptoms were just so mild that everyone missed it?


 
See, the FUD thing doesn't work. I can look at his VP and cabinet picks, and assume he delegates to them.

It reminds me of Reagan's second term. RR wasn't all that sharp by that point, either. But Bush did fine.

If you want to get over 50%, you need a new strategy. If you try to tear down the other guy, you just remind me of Trump.

And thinking of Trump makes me remember why I voted for Biden in the first place.
It's certainly a popular way of making political choices but dangerous at the same time.

We've moved the needle on nothing in regards to policy outside of our borders. Regardless of what party you kneel to, the US government looks pretty weak on the international front.

Southern Border is not looking good - FEMA just doesn't show up on a whim to do anything. The Chinese know they can push harder. The Middle East countries don't really know what to do, who to align with. Afghanistan (which has been a disaster since 2001) is not looking any more clear. Syria? well, Syria.

Yes, all these things need time and they are complicated. But from the outside looking in, the report card is not looking good. I'm not one to judge anyone or anything on 100 days, but things aren't trending in any direction that would point to competence.

But.....we've passed a COVID bill that has minimal covid stuff. We knew that was coming. Next - tax increase, flirting with stricter gun controls. Now that's a more traditional partisan engagement on behalf of both parties and their followers.
 
The whole dementia thing isn't news. We knew we voted for a frail old man who will hire and listen to competent people.

So far, so good. A couple appointments I don't like, but mostly he is holding up his end of the bargain.

If we wanted an athlete, we'd have President Hawley or President AOC. I am glad we don't.

He is firing all the admitted pot smokers, even the legal ones. I think he should be prejudiced toward keeping honest people.
 
espola claimed he told people to drink or inject bleach. You just proved Trump didn't say that. I never said it was a smart comment. I agree it was stupid. My point was, as espola so often is, he was wrong. It was a critique of espola (who claims he isn't partisan when really he is a partisan hack), not a defense of Trump.

Are you still upset over the "debunked" thing? That was another instance when you wound yourself up into a circle where you had to deny your own statements.

I really didn't want to rub your nose in it -- I gave you plenty of opportunity to recognize your error and admit/correct it.
 
The whole dementia thing isn't news. We knew we voted for a frail old man who will hire and listen to competent people.

So far, so good. A couple appointments I don't like, but mostly he is holding up his end of the bargain.

If we wanted an athlete, we'd have President Hawley or President AOC. I am glad we don't.

My guess is (based totally on appearance) that the nationally-recognized politician in the best physical shape is Romney. I could live with that.
 
Are you still upset over the "debunked" thing? That was another instance when you wound yourself up into a circle where you had to deny your own statements.

I really didn't want to rub your nose in it -- I gave you plenty of opportunity to recognize your error and admit/correct it.

Are you still upset over getting the bleach thing wrong? Ready to admit your partisan hackery? Come on...just admit it....we all know it....you'll feel good about it when you are done.
 
He is firing all the admitted pot smokers, even the legal ones. I think he should be prejudiced toward keeping honest people.
Biden is little behind the times with those firings.

It’s also a bad choice from a security perspective. A person who openly used pot is not a security risk. But, if you force them to hide it, now they can be blackmailed.
 
Biden is little behind the times with those firings.

It’s also a bad choice from a security perspective. A person who openly used pot is not a security risk. But, if you force them to hide it, now they can be blackmailed.

It's worse than that. Back when it was illegal, if one admitted to having smoked pot "while in college" or some such diminishment, you might et the clearance, but the security guys would want to have more details as one applied for higher levels (who did you smoke with? - was it anyone from work? - or someone with a clearance?). I got my TS before I even knew anyone who smoked, and the most nagging questions on my CRYPTO questionnaire were things like my brother-in-law's precise addresses for the last few years (he lived in Manila at the time) and what the letters ABCS stood for on my SDSU diploma (artium baccalaureus computer science -- I like that mix of languages).
 
I am an anti-trumpist. Does that make me partisan?
TDS much?

besides the pot thing (seriously that’s your line???), we have yet to hear a critical thing from you about the ds and/or health experts. I’ve been critical of trump. So it certainly makes you more partisan than me.

The cheap political tricks are also big with you. Bleach? You couldn’t even get that one past dad4.
 
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