Bad News Thread

[MicPaPa]

It's is entirely possible to have a meaningful discussion with dad4 and even Husker. It is quite difficult to have one with you when you are running that car all over the place. Get the glasses. They'll help.

FACT CHECK: True

 

[espola]

I’m a pro science skeptic that wants the science and not politics or panic to govern pandemic decisions

And you’ve just defined yourself in opposition (which you’ve also shown repeatedly)

No, I haven't.

 

[espola]

Those who do it honestly are few and far between on the pro lockdown side either. They are also pushing an agenda because they have to justify the profound damage they’ve done by throwing out 20 years of pandemic planning. The best thing either side can do is to say “we just don’t know”. At least then we can have an honest debate between “better safe than sorry” and “the cost is too damn high”. But the pro lockdown side has taken this attitude that they alone have the high ground and they alone follow the science, despite having been wrong at nearly every turn and having been caught at times putting politics in front of the science. The most important thing that we can be doing is asking questions, because that’s how we force experts to come to the corrected conclusions or to defend their conclusions and prove them right. The biggest issue is there’s been far too much deference (even among the experts) from the beginning (which led to the world believing China and being caught unprepared).

What did the 20 years of pandemic planning call for?

 

[MicPaPa]

Here’s another little insight to how some school board members are perceiving/positioning getting schools open.

Which I've said is not really possible with you (as opposed to dad4 or husker) because you lack the coherence. Why would I ever want to engage in such an exercise of futility, particularly when it revolves around what is supposedly your favorite topic, and my least, (which is you) particularly when you've demonstrated already it's o.k. to cast aspersions but to not back them up when you did the same to me.

Talk about ego...you want to have an argument about you!.....q.e.d.?

Painful to watch...like a t-ball team playing the LA Dodgers.

 

[MicPaPa]

Here’s another little insight to how some school board members are perceiving/positioning getting schools open.

Poster child for everything toxic and wrong with this country!

 

[Grace T.]

What did the 20 years of pandemic planning call for?

Not lockdowns Those were a Chinese invention. Not masks (those were for health care workers per Faucis original advice). School closures and restrictions were only for short periods and only in the most severe outbreak times (not months)

 

[Grace T.]

No, I haven't.

Yes you have repeatedly. You are more than welcome to correct the record and tell us what you in fact believe. But your upvotes and contrariness to certain positions speaks volumes

 

[espola]

Not lockdowns Those were a Chinese invention. Not masks (those were for health care workers per Faucis original advice). School closures and restrictions were only for short periods and only in the most severe outbreak times (not months)

I thought you would cite a reference, not just repeat your opinion.

 

[Desert Hound]

Yes you have repeatedly. You are more than welcome to correct the record and tell us what you in fact believe. But your upvotes and contrariness to certain positions speaks volumes

Hey I think just the other day you and @espola were discussing this.

The American Journal of Medicine Now Recommends HCQ for COVID19 | Principia Scientific, Intl.

The American Journal of Medicine now (Jan. 2021) recommends Hydroxychloroquine, Azithromycin, and Zinc for the treatment of Covid 19 outpatients. The irony is this is the treatment that former US President, Donald Trump promoted last year. The timing, right after the election, is interesting...

principia-scientific.com

 

[Grace T.]

I thought you would cite a reference, not just repeat your opinion.

Nah it’s a fact. Do your own research.

 

[espola]

Yes you have repeatedly. You are more than welcome to correct the record and tell us what you in fact believe. But your upvotes and contrariness to certain positions speaks volumes

You are very quick to put people into red/blue, black/white. up/down extremes. I'm not.

 

[dad4]

Hey I think just the other day you and @espola were discussing this.

The American Journal of Medicine Now Recommends HCQ for COVID19 | Principia Scientific, Intl.

The American Journal of Medicine now (Jan. 2021) recommends Hydroxychloroquine, Azithromycin, and Zinc for the treatment of Covid 19 outpatients. The irony is this is the treatment that former US President, Donald Trump promoted last year. The timing, right after the election, is interesting...

principia-scientific.com

Thr details are interesting, and complicated. Recommended for outpatients. But in large doses it weakens the early immune response.

Same drug, same disease. Taken early, it hurts. Taken late, it helps.

Not really as simple as HCQ=good or HCQ=bad.

 

[Grace T.]

You are very quick to put people into red/blue, black/white. up/down extremes. I'm not.

It’s a shorthand. Dad4 and I are actually relatively close on the policy we’d follow and are probably closer than dad4 and newsoms former policy.

That you don’t do it is laughable considering you were the one who found my own positions obvious. And as I’ve invited to you if you think you’ve been incorrectly classified you are more than welcome to explain to us the nuances of your position (2nd invite)

 

[dad4]

It’s a shorthand. Dad4 and I are actually relatively close on the policy we’d follow and are probably closer than dad4 and newsoms former policy.

That you don’t do it is laughable considering you were the one who found my own positions obvious. And as I’ve invited to you if you think you’ve been incorrectly classified you are more than welcome to explain to us the nuances of your position (2nd invite)

Except when I call for a national mask mandate and closing indoor dining. I assume we still differ on those.

 

[Grace T.]

Except when I call for a national mask mandate and closing indoor dining. I assume we still differ on those.

We actually agree on indoor dining but differ on the rigorous ness and length of the closures. I think a National mask mandate would be unconstitutional but agree with masks for most indoor commercial situations but think our expectations about what they can do must be tempered

 

[Hüsker Dü]

"murder weapon"? Since the medical examiners report has not been released and there is an ongoing investigation... I assume you have facts or evidence to support he was murdered? OR are you one of the crackpots feeding a false narrative?

Do you nick pick the cause of death in all tragic events? How many 9/11 victims were directly murdered by the terrorists? Deaths were caused by illegal activities instigated by trump and his minions. Not to mention the thousands that needlessly died due to trumps lack of effort concerning COVID-19.

 

[espola]

Hey I think just the other day you and @espola were discussing this.

The American Journal of Medicine Now Recommends HCQ for COVID19 | Principia Scientific, Intl.

The American Journal of Medicine now (Jan. 2021) recommends Hydroxychloroquine, Azithromycin, and Zinc for the treatment of Covid 19 outpatients. The irony is this is the treatment that former US President, Donald Trump promoted last year. The timing, right after the election, is interesting...

principia-scientific.com

 

[espola]

It’s a shorthand. Dad4 and I are actually relatively close on the policy we’d follow and are probably closer than dad4 and newsoms former policy.

That you don’t do it is laughable considering you were the one who found my own positions obvious. And as I’ve invited to you if you think you’ve been incorrectly classified you are more than welcome to explain to us the nuances of your position (2nd invite)

I have already responded that I don't judge a person or idea based on its partisan identity. Before responding to people I don't know or making judgements on an idea, I do some background research.

Why does Grammarly prefer "judgment" over "judgement"?

 

[dad4]

I have already responded that I don't judge a person or idea based on its partisan identity. Before responding to people I don't know or making judgements on an idea, I do some background research.

Why does Grammarly prefer "judgment" over "judgement"?

Courts. The legal system uses “judgment”, and US dictionaries follow. Grammarly imports some dictionary, and gets the legal spelling along with it.

 

[espola]

Courts. The legal system uses “judgment”, and US dictionaries follow. Grammarly imports some dictionary, and gets the legal spelling along with it.

Some dictionaries now carry the word "orbisculate" just because people asked them to.

Urban Dictionary: Orbisculate

Orbisculate: 1 to accidentally [squirt juice] and/or pulp into one’s eye, as from a [grapefruit] when using a spoon to [scoop out] a section for eating. 2 to...

www.urbandictionary.com

 

[espola]

Some dictionaries now carry the word "orbisculate" just because people asked them to.

Urban Dictionary: Orbisculate

Orbisculate: 1 to accidentally [squirt juice] and/or pulp into one’s eye, as from a [grapefruit] when using a spoon to [scoop out] a section for eating. 2 to...

www.urbandictionary.com

And don't get me started on "preventive" vs. "preventative".