Would seem to be security theatre. If there’s no air getting in how do they not all suffocate and die? If there is air getting in then what exactly is the point...even if not being directly thrown out from the instrument there’s still a lot of air being forced out from the lungs and being picked up by indoor circulation
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It's a one shot. One shot 2% is diddly squat. It's the ongoing 2% that matters.
Goal post moved again. Again you were the one concerned about that people acting stupid—-> set backs. I know compound effects are powerful but even on a recurring compound effect basis it’s no where in the vicinity of seasonality, farrs, housing density and immunity. And what’s worse comes at enormous costs.
Much better than the coocoos and nonsense. I heartily approve. You done it again Magoo my dear old bean!
I think we should all meet up after this is over. Who is the real Magoo?
I guess you didn't get the joke about your criticizing people with agendas.
Yeah I got it. As I said much better than your usual schtick! And coming from someone with his own agenda it’s even more funny! Way to go Magoo, my dear old bean!
Ps you sort of ruined it by explaining it to the plebs.
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irony can be elusive
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Is reality an agenda?
You mean the reality where pro lockdowners have been wrong about everything from the constant mask reversals, to we aren’t going to get vaccines in 2020, to youth sports and schools, to the super bowl is going to lead to a spike?
What do you think is my agenda?
I was explaining it to you. Your agenda and disdain for science and math have been obvious since you first posted about crossing state lines to feed your ego.
My favorite thing in the world is libs and lockdowners that think they have no agenda but everyone else does. Oh yeah I forgot you are a “conservative”. That’s hilarious. Thanks for that. You are on fire today!
A quote by Robin Williams
Reality is just a crutch for people who can't handle drugs.
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I am not a member of any political party or organized political movement. I judge every issue on its merits.
I will not state my opinion of your political and/or moral stance. You do that very well yourself by example.
One which you don’t understand either. I’m a skeptic that is concerned with liberty and speak out for truth. That’s my organizing principle and I’m also part of no party or political movement. I also judge every issue on the merit...the problem though is I am self aware enough to acknowledge my bias...you not only don’t see yours you actively deny it.
What am I denying?
Your bias by trying to paint things that you have no agenda
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Actually I think it is you who refuse to believe the actual facts on the ground.
Read the article. Look at the graphs as the compare what CA has done vs FL.
In light of everything our officials have taught us about how this virus spreads, it defies reality that Florida, a fully open and popular travel destination with one of the oldest populations in the country, currently has lower hospitalizations and deaths per million than California, a state with much heavier restrictions and one of the youngest populations in the country. While it is true that, overall, California does slightly better than Florida in deaths per million, simply accounting for California's much younger population tips the scales in Florida’s favor.
Florida has zero restrictions on bars, breweries, indoor dining, gyms, places of worship, gathering sizes, and almost all schools are offering in-person instruction. California, on the other hand, retains heavy restrictions in each of these areas. At the very least, Florida's hospitalizations and deaths per million should be substantially worse than California's. Those who predicted death and destruction as a consequence of Florida's September reopening simply cannot see these results as anything other than utterly remarkable. Even White House covid advisor Andy Slavitt, much to the establishment’s embarrassment, had no explanation for Florida’s success relative to California. Slavitt was reduced to parroting establishment talking points after admitting that Florida’s surprisingly great numbers were “just a little beyond our explanation.”
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We can see that, relative to Floridians, Californians have consistently been doing a better job of avoiding social behaviors that allegedly fuel the spread of covid-19. Moreover, at no point was there a drastic change in behavioral patterns after December 17 indicating that Floridians had suddenly begun avoiding activities purportedly linked to covid transmission.
A quick glance at each state's "social distancing score" also indicates, yet again, that Californians have been doing a better job avoiding activities meant to facilitate the spread of covid-19. Additionally, Google's covid mobility reports, as of February 16, 2021, show that Californians partake in fewer retail and recreational visits—restaurants, cafes, shopping centers, theme parks, museums, libraries, and movie theaters—as well as fewer grocery store and pharmacy visits, which include farmers markets, food warehouses, and speciality food shops.
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Moving on from the Florida-California comparison, national metrics also highlight the lack of correlation between the intensity of states' NPIs—methodology for determining this can be found here—and deaths per million.
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Similar case patterns across fifty states is hardly an indicator of a government capable of influencing the course of the virus. Instead, research published in Evolutionary Bioinformatics shows that case counts and mortality rates are strongly correlated with temperature and latitude, a concept known as “seasonality,” which, once recognized, largely explains the failure of the past year’s NPIs.
Meanwhile, we can look at seasonally congruent regions to see whether or not varying degrees of behavioral mandates have had any noticeable impact on cases. What we find, thanks to seasonality, is that regardless of the timing or existence of mask mandates and other behavioral mandates, similar regions follow similar case growth patterns.
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For the firm believer in NPIs, these simultaneous and nearly identical fluctuations between cities within the same state and states having similar climates are inexplicable. After accepting seasonality as one of the driving factors behind case fluctuations, we can start speaking of "covid season" as pragmatically as we speak of "flu season."
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Some of you may be wondering about the "holiday surges" that were supposed to have ravaged our hospitals following Thanksgiving and Christmas. Well, they never happened. Not only did the rate of covid-19 hospitalization growth decline after Thanksgiving, hospitalizations peaked less than two weeks after Christmas and have been sharply plummeting since! At the very least we should have seen a rapid increase in the hospitalization growth rate in the few weeks following Christmas.
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Almost a Year Later, There’s Still No Evidence Showing Governments Can Control the Spread of Covid-19 | Mises Institute
The covid lockdowners still have no explanation for why California and Florida—with such different covid policies—have similar covid death rates. The White
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