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If true, this is the whole ball of wax.....the Rona will never disappear, it becomes endemic like the flu, T-cell immunity will bring the death rate way down, but people will still die from it as an end of life event when they are old, everyone will get the Rona eventually, and every winter will be flu & Rona season. Even if this just pans out as more fear porn, it's disturbing the virus is moving in this direction which makes it more like the ever changing flu, than one of the more stable pox viruses.
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UK scientists worry vaccines may not protect against S.African coronavirus variant
HEALTH-CORONAVIRUS/BRITAIN-SOUTH AFRICA-VACCINE (UPDATE 4):UPDATE 4-UK scientists worry vaccines may not protect against S.African coronavirus variant
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Desert Hound
DA
I came across this one a day or so ago.
Like the U.K. variant, the new strain discovered in South Africa, officially called 501Y.V2, involves multiple mutations inside the coronavirus at the same time.
“They both have multiple, different mutations in them, so they’re not a single mutation,” John Bell, a medicine professor at Oxford University, explained in Britain’s Times Radio on Sunday. “The mutations associated with the South African form are really pretty substantial changes in the structure of the (virus’ spike) protein.”
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Scientists are still unsure whether existing vaccines are effective against these new mutations. While a related study is underway, Bell said his gut feeling was that Pfizer’s and Moderna’s vaccines would still be effective against the U.K. strain, but he was less certain about the one identified in South Africa.
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The South African variant was first detected on December 18. Preliminary studies suggest the variant is associated with “a higher viral load, which may suggest potential for increased transmissibility,” according to the World Health Organization. As of December 30, the variant had been reported in four other countries.
observer.com
Like the U.K. variant, the new strain discovered in South Africa, officially called 501Y.V2, involves multiple mutations inside the coronavirus at the same time.
“They both have multiple, different mutations in them, so they’re not a single mutation,” John Bell, a medicine professor at Oxford University, explained in Britain’s Times Radio on Sunday. “The mutations associated with the South African form are really pretty substantial changes in the structure of the (virus’ spike) protein.”
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Scientists are still unsure whether existing vaccines are effective against these new mutations. While a related study is underway, Bell said his gut feeling was that Pfizer’s and Moderna’s vaccines would still be effective against the U.K. strain, but he was less certain about the one identified in South Africa.
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The South African variant was first detected on December 18. Preliminary studies suggest the variant is associated with “a higher viral load, which may suggest potential for increased transmissibility,” according to the World Health Organization. As of December 30, the variant had been reported in four other countries.
As New COVID-19 Strain Attacks South Africa, Vaccine Experts Are ‘Incredibly Worried’
Scientists are uncertain that existing vaccines will be effective against this new mutation.
observer.com
Desert Hound
DA
I personally don't think it will ever disappear. It is something we are going to have to live with.If true, this is the whole ball of wax.....the Rona will never disappear, it becomes endemic like the flu, T-cell immunity will bring the death rate way down, but people will still die from it as an end of life event when they are old, everyone will get the Rona eventually, and every winter will be flu & Rona season. Even if this just pans out as more fear porn, it's disturbing the virus is moving in this direction which makes it more like the ever changing flu, than one of the more stable pox viruses.
UK scientists worry vaccines may not protect against S.African coronavirus variant
HEALTH-CORONAVIRUS/BRITAIN-SOUTH AFRICA-VACCINE (UPDATE 4):UPDATE 4-UK scientists worry vaccines may not protect against S.African coronavirus variant
And by living with it...no masks, schools open, biz at full capacity, etc. We cannot keep doing what we are doing long term.
That would explain a lot......
Hüsker Dü
DA
So trump is responsible?
Try reading......
Fauci and the other health experts...hence kickers “explains a lot”.
Desert Hound
DA
It is an ongoing problem with the Chinese as well. From the article.
"The WHO has been attempting to send in the team of global experts from a number of countries for some months."
China blocks entry to WHO team studying Covid's origins
Officials say visas not yet approved for World Health Organization delegation due to visit Wuhan
www.theguardian.com
Desert Hound
DA
It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Especially in light of how many public school systems have performed during the rona.
It is a good read.
"Researchers can compare the academic performance of children who win the lottery and attend a charter with those who lose it and attend a traditional neighborhood school. Every lottery study has found charters produce overall learning gains for urban students. Many of those gains are huge, effectively wiping out the educational inequities that have persisted for the entire history of American schools."
If you want to help the underserved.......
"For years, perhaps the most devastating acronym in anti-charter sentiment was CREDO. The Center for Research on Education Outcomes at Stanford conducted a national survey in 2009 that compared the outcomes of similar kids (as measured by factors like family income) at charters and traditional public schools. The report found that charters were producing slightly worse outcomes than traditional public schools. If you’ve read much criticism of charters, you’ve probably seen a reference to the study, which skeptics have treated as the final word. But its conclusions have long since ceased to be true. Another CREDO study four years later found the sector had improved, and in 2015, a survey focused on charters in urban districts, where education reformers have concentrated their energies (and where gains have outpaced suburban and rural areas). It found urban charters on average gave their students the equivalent of 40 additional school days of learning in math and 28 additional days of learning in reading every year. CREDO’s studies confirm the conclusion that the lottery studies have found: In most cases, urban charters now provide the same group of students much better instruction."
It is a good read.
"Researchers can compare the academic performance of children who win the lottery and attend a charter with those who lose it and attend a traditional neighborhood school. Every lottery study has found charters produce overall learning gains for urban students. Many of those gains are huge, effectively wiping out the educational inequities that have persisted for the entire history of American schools."
If you want to help the underserved.......
"For years, perhaps the most devastating acronym in anti-charter sentiment was CREDO. The Center for Research on Education Outcomes at Stanford conducted a national survey in 2009 that compared the outcomes of similar kids (as measured by factors like family income) at charters and traditional public schools. The report found that charters were producing slightly worse outcomes than traditional public schools. If you’ve read much criticism of charters, you’ve probably seen a reference to the study, which skeptics have treated as the final word. But its conclusions have long since ceased to be true. Another CREDO study four years later found the sector had improved, and in 2015, a survey focused on charters in urban districts, where education reformers have concentrated their energies (and where gains have outpaced suburban and rural areas). It found urban charters on average gave their students the equivalent of 40 additional school days of learning in math and 28 additional days of learning in reading every year. CREDO’s studies confirm the conclusion that the lottery studies have found: In most cases, urban charters now provide the same group of students much better instruction."
Desert Hound
DA
And continuing the above....
"The final element of charters’ formula is inescapably controversial. They prioritize the welfare of their students over those of their employees, which means paying teachers based on effectiveness rather than how long they’ve been on the job — and being able to fire the worst ones."
"The final element of charters’ formula is inescapably controversial. They prioritize the welfare of their students over those of their employees, which means paying teachers based on effectiveness rather than how long they’ve been on the job — and being able to fire the worst ones."
Glitterhater
SILVER ELITE
Charter parent here, (at one point both kids were in Charter, but the oldest is not anymore,) and we've been nothing but pleased. My youngest had some significant (life threatening,) health issues and they bent over backwards to help keep him learning as best he could.
I'm not sure how/where it started, (nor do I care,) but at one point a large grip was that their teachers don't have to be credentialed- that was a complete lie for our school. There is also a huge backlash against the lottery-type system. People saying they can exclude those with special needs. Again, not true, especially at the campuses we're familiar with.
I'm not sure how/where it started, (nor do I care,) but at one point a large grip was that their teachers don't have to be credentialed- that was a complete lie for our school. There is also a huge backlash against the lottery-type system. People saying they can exclude those with special needs. Again, not true, especially at the campuses we're familiar with.
Desert Hound
DA
My kids are at a charter as well. Night and day vs the public school they were in previously. One that was ranked as one of the best in AZ for that matter.
Glitterhater
SILVER ELITE
So true. And it takes an act of god for anyone to be disciplined! The bullying I've heard of happening in some of the public schools, (who then just got hands slapped, if that,) is mind boggling.And then you have the shenanigans at public schools.
I think one of the problems public schools have is that they don't focus so much on education. They focus on the latest fads, social justice, etc instead of focusing on the basics....actual teaching the kids the basics...math, reading, etc.
Radicals in the Classroom
The San Diego Unified School District has been radicalized. In recent months, the district has announced mandatory diversity training for teachers, added a new “ethnic studies” curriculum focused on racial grievance, and even abolished the requirement to turn in homework on time—all in the name...www.city-journal.org
Desert Hound
DA
And then you have the shenanigans at public schools.
I think one of the problems public schools have is that they don't focus so much on education. They focus on the latest fads, social justice, etc instead of focusing on the basics....actually teaching the kids the basics...math, reading, etc.
The way they taught math was beyond frustrating. Actually making it more difficult. And reading? Why schools have moved away from phonetics to sight words is beyond me. One system teaches you how to read words you have not encountered. The other doesn't provide you any tools to do so.
www.city-journal.org
I think one of the problems public schools have is that they don't focus so much on education. They focus on the latest fads, social justice, etc instead of focusing on the basics....actually teaching the kids the basics...math, reading, etc.
The way they taught math was beyond frustrating. Actually making it more difficult. And reading? Why schools have moved away from phonetics to sight words is beyond me. One system teaches you how to read words you have not encountered. The other doesn't provide you any tools to do so.
Radicals in the Classroom
The San Diego Unified School District has been radicalized. In recent months, the district has announced mandatory diversity training for teachers, added a new “ethnic studies” curriculum focused on racial grievance, and even abolished the requirement to turn in homework on time—all in the name...
www.city-journal.org
Phonics is boring for the teacher.And then you have the shenanigans at public schools.
I think one of the problems public schools have is that they don't focus so much on education. They focus on the latest fads, social justice, etc instead of focusing on the basics....actually teaching the kids the basics...math, reading, etc.
The way they taught math was beyond frustrating. Actually making it more difficult. And reading? Why schools have moved away from phonetics to sight words is beyond me. One system teaches you how to read words you have not encountered. The other doesn't provide you any tools to do so.
Radicals in the Classroom
The San Diego Unified School District has been radicalized. In recent months, the district has announced mandatory diversity training for teachers, added a new “ethnic studies” curriculum focused on racial grievance, and even abolished the requirement to turn in homework on time—all in the name...
Who wants to spend 6 hours a day immersed in instruction appropriate for a 5 year old?
Whole language instruction lets the teacher pick books she likes. Why say "kuh ah tuh" when you could be reading Mo Willems?
Of course, 1 on 1 phonics with mom or dad actually works. But that's a side point, really.
This is beyond outrageous. 75+ year olds (the group mostly likely to die of COVID) likely don't get vaccinated until mid march at least according to VC health authorities. Meanwhile doctors in private offices, hotel workers, dentists, and DAs, even if young and healthy, get vaccinated??? California is seriously run by morons. No wonder the AMA was lobbying Newsom at French laundry.
www.toacorn.com
County says it’s provided 13,000 vaccines in 3 weeks
Nearly 13,000 of the 24,000 round-one doses of COVID-19 vaccine that Ventura County had received as of Tuesday have been injected, Public Health Officer Dr. Robert Levin said. Speaking at a county Board of Supervisors’ meeting Jan. 6, Levin said all workers in the county’s eight hospitals who...
www.toacorn.com
60+ represents 74.5% of California’s mortality and that number continues to climb (it was 71% back in October)....The narrative has been, people are dying (que the “how many people have to die so Sally can play soccer” argument)...so why not target that category of the population to vaccinate? Same reasonI question why they didn’t have a proactive plan to increase ICU capacity while they are warning everyone a Winter surge is coming since July?This is beyond outrageous. 75+ year olds (the group mostly likely to die of COVID) likely don't get vaccinated until mid march at least according to VC health authorities. Meanwhile doctors in private offices, hotel workers, dentists, and DAs, even if young and healthy, get vaccinated??? California is seriously run by morons. No wonder the AMA was lobbying Newsom at French laundry.
County says it’s provided 13,000 vaccines in 3 weeks
Nearly 13,000 of the 24,000 round-one doses of COVID-19 vaccine that Ventura County had received as of Tuesday have been injected, Public Health Officer Dr. Robert Levin said. Speaking at a county Board of Supervisors’ meeting Jan. 6, Levin said all workers in the county’s eight hospitals who...
I’m open to hearing some valid reasons.
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