Bad News Thread

The analogy would be Sanders. Passionate support by some, but disagreeable to a large liberal constituency and the entirety of the other side... same with the orange man, in reverse.
1 in 10 Sanders supporters voted for trump in 2016.
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Not a great sign when significant portions of the medical field refuse the vaccine. This sounds to me like it has the potential to considerably lengthen the timeline for getting the case infection rate down.
The longer things go with out getting things back to some what normal is so damaging.That vaccine needs to get out. Everyone seems to be looking past the mental health crisis going on now too. Even after the virus is eradicated the damaging psyche of the virus will last well over a decade and unfortunately that's what I think the virus was manufactured for. FEAR and CONTROL.
 
The longer things go with out getting things back to some what normal is so damaging.That vaccine needs to get out. Everyone seems to be looking past the mental health crisis going on now too. Even after the virus is eradicated the damaging psyche of the virus will last well over a decade and unfortunately that's what I think the virus was manufactured for. FEAR and CONTROL.
It's out bro, but many are running away from it. Not everyone is looking past mental health. Grace and others have shared from their heart and so many are in pain that comes with fear. Bad combo. Are you going to get in the Lines for bat virus Chalk so you can go see Mickey and travel? My wife and I are 100% a no for sure. Dr Flip Flop said hopefully we can get back to normal hopefully by the fall of 2021 after EVERYONE gets their shots. Problem right now is over 60% are saying, "get that sh*t away from me."

Headline News From OC:
Could Disneyland require proof of COVID-19 vaccination when it reopens?
Airlines, concert promoters, theme parks and other businesses that cater to travelers or draw large crowds have begun talking about the need for an immunity passport that could be used to gain entrance to theaters, venues, stadiums, offices and countries.
 
The longer things go with out getting things back to some what normal is so damaging.That vaccine needs to get out. Everyone seems to be looking past the mental health crisis going on now too. Even after the virus is eradicated the damaging psyche of the virus will last well over a decade and unfortunately that's what I think the virus was manufactured for. FEAR OF CONTROL.
There I fixed it for ya!
 
It's out bro, but many are running away from it. Not everyone is looking past mental health. Grace and others have shared from their heart and so many are in pain that comes with fear. Bad combo. Are you going to get in the Lines for bat virus Chalk so you can go see Mickey and travel? My wife and I are 100% a no for sure. Dr Flip Flop said hopefully we can get back to normal hopefully by the fall of 2021 after EVERYONE gets their shots. Problem right now is over 60% are saying, "get that sh*t away from me."

Headline News From OC:
Could Disneyland require proof of COVID-19 vaccination when it reopens?
Airlines, concert promoters, theme parks and other businesses that cater to travelers or draw large crowds have begun talking about the need for an immunity passport that could be used to gain entrance to theaters, venues, stadiums, offices and countries.
Change is frightening to some. As information is obtained guidance changes, don't let that scare you. We move on the best we can. Ignore the detractors.
 
Change is frightening to some. As information is obtained guidance changes, don't let that scare you. We move on the best we can. Ignore the detractors.
It's more about the rights of all Americans Husker. If my wife and I are 99% healthy and have no symptoms and test negative, wear mask and stay away 6 feet, we should be free to enjoy life's pleasures as the next sell out, no? Or are we now told. "sorry Charlie, no roller coaster ride for you and wife because your scared of a little bat poison."
Bottom-line Husker and your pal Wuhan is this: the Coronavirus vaccination verification is fraught with potential controversy. COVID-19 vaccination mandates by private businesses like Disneyland could raise issues related to civil rights, religious objections, disability protections, privacy concerns and viral transmission rates. The list will go on and on. Dr Flip Flop has made it worse because he lies all the time. He calls it keeping the truth away from the children. Dude is 80 and he lies a lot.
 
It's more about the rights of all Americans Husker. If my wife and I are 99% healthy and have no symptoms and test negative, wear mask and stay away 6 feet, we should be free to enjoy life's pleasures as the next sell out, no? Or are we now told. "sorry Charlie, no roller coaster ride for you and wife because your scared of a little bat poison."
Bottom-line Husker and your pal Wuhan is this: the Coronavirus vaccination verification is fraught with potential controversy. COVID-19 vaccination mandates by private businesses like Disneyland could raise issues related to civil rights, religious objections, disability protections, privacy concerns and viral transmission rates. The list will go on and on. Dr Flip Flop has made it worse because he lies all the time. He calls it keeping the truth away from the children. Dude is 80 and he lies a lot.
If you and your wife are asymptomatic you endanger anyone you come in direct contact with, namely those sitting behind you on said roller coster, the ticket agent, the people at all the places you stop at on your travels, etc (big picture). I will agree the vaccination is most definitely fraught with controversy. Mandates by private businesses? Like not making a rainbow cake for a gay wedding? Please give me an example of Dr. Fauci lying. You, like many who side with trump's version of things don't seem to understand your whole outlook on things has been altered by the alternative fact president. Changing ones opinion based on the latest findings isn't lying it's SCIENCE and with a "novel" virus (novel meaning 'new' to the world, although related to other previous strains). Disingenuous and intentionally ignorant is no way to go through life.
 
If you and your wife are asymptomatic you endanger anyone you come in direct contact with, namely those sitting behind you on said roller coster, the ticket agent, the people at all the places you stop at on your travels, etc (big picture). I will agree the vaccination is most definitely fraught with controversy. Mandates by private businesses? Like not making a rainbow cake for a gay wedding? Please give me an example of Dr. Fauci lying. You, like many who side with trump's version of things don't seem to understand your whole outlook on things has been altered by the alternative fact president. Changing ones opinion based on the latest findings isn't lying it's SCIENCE and with a "novel" virus (novel meaning 'new' to the world, although related to other previous strains). Disingenuous and intentionally ignorant is no way to go through life.
In March, Dr. Fauci said "there’s no reason to be walking around with a mask" and cautioned that "there are unintended consequences" with wearing them.

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Marco said he lied too.
Sen. Marco Rubio: Dr. Fauci lied about coronavirus to manipulate our behavior — that's appalling
 
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In March, Dr. Fauci said "there’s no reason to be walking around with a mask" and cautioned that "there are unintended consequences" with wearing them.

Marco said he lied too.
Sen. Marco Rubio: Dr. Fauci lied about coronavirus to manipulate our behavior — that's appalling
I would not use Marco Rubio to drive home a point. Even if it were otherwise valid.
 
The longer things go with out getting things back to some what normal is so damaging.That vaccine needs to get out. Everyone seems to be looking past the mental health crisis going on now too. Even after the virus is eradicated the damaging psyche of the virus will last well over a decade and unfortunately that's what I think the virus was manufactured for. FEAR and CONTROL.
There will be and are people with damaged psyches due to the virus, but I believe the large majority of the people will gladly move on with life as it was before the virus once the virus fades away.

I don't believe it was "manufactured" for "fear and control" - at least not in the US. I try to remember never to attribute to malice that can be explained by incompetence, but there's definitely a power struggle.

Some things are interesting to me going forward. The first is related to the fact that many appear to be surprised by the vaccine response here in CA. Based on who we elect, there is nothing about the response that surprised me. The feeling I get is that there is a significant number of people with children who are dissatisfied with CA's response in general and specifically w.r.t. children. With Newsome as governor, look at SF as your model. Since we all have children, I did two Google searches: "Is San Francisco good for raising children?" and "Is Austin good for raising children". Both areas are solidly blue. The first lines of the results are interesting.
SF: "San Francisco is a great city for the rich"
Austin: "Raising a family in Austin can be a wonderful experience."

Will the virus response accelerate the already existing trend to move out of CA? Beyond families moving out, we now have a few large companies moving out as well. We also have a greater acceptance of professionals working remotely - which may mean working outside of CA. For schools, how many will decide that public school is not the best alternative for them? I am not predicting a collapse, but I have to think that the tax base will take a hit significant enough to squeeze many existing programs - including public schools. We have also heard since the pandemic about how many communities are already underserved, and that's why the virus has inordinately affected those communities. I can't imagine that gets better.

Ha! I just realized I put up a rather negative post as my first in the new year. At least it is appropriate in the "Bad News Thread" and in "Off Topic 2" where all the crazies reside ;) Happy New Year to all the real people behind your screen names. I appreciate your civil discourse.
 
I believe the large majority of the people will gladly move on with life as it was before the virus once the virus fades away.
I don't believe it was "manufactured" for "fear and control" - at least not in the US.
Will the virus response accelerate the already existing trend to move out of CA?
Ha! I just realized I put up a rather negative post as my first in the new year. At least it is appropriate in the "Bad News Thread" and in "Off Topic 2" where all the crazies reside ;) Happy New Year to all the real people behind your screen names. I appreciate your civil discourse.
I love you man. I'm taking you to task on a few things smarty pants. First, life as we new it is 100% not coming back. You can take that to da bank. Second, I want to believe like you that this Bat Virus from Wuhan was all one big naturally created virus by mother earth and human error released it out to the general public for a game of Global Roulette. However, my sources in high places tell me it's all part of a larger and more global plan. My sources are telling me we have some true sell outs. This is not a negative post btw and I agree with almost everything you wrote. I know so many that have left and now I know more that are leaving. My kids are too old to leave. I would have left if my kids were 5 or 3. I would also put my kids in either my home school or I would look for a great Charter or Private or some Hybrid model. I'm crazy for life and I will live as I see fit. Get out of my way it's time to play. 2021!!!
 
Happy New Years all you crazies!!! So we start with some sad news and just more bad news from the breaking news from ALL the news rooms and ALL their online bad news headlines. Mitch and the gang cant find a way to add a little extra to the helping hand and that is "Breaking News with Wolf."

GOP-led Senate again blocks $2,000 stimulus check vote
"A huge chunk would essentially be socialism for rich people," McConnell said.


US coronavirus cases hit 20M mark, hospitalizations surpass 125,000 for second straight day

New Bat Virus Strain could be 10x more contagious then Covid 19, 18, 17, 16, 15..........................1.

Dr Flip Flop is worried Americans wont listen to him again.
Joe said t threw out his play book.
Everyone needs two doses
If folks don;t start lining up voluntarily then what?
Listen up and do as we say or no life, no food or job. Now STFU and listen to our instructions and all will go well for you and your family.



This General is very upset at us as well and is being a good General for wearing his mask. I actually have a pal who believes this guy and the guy in Wuhan over the Orange Man and our Military. 2021 is kicking and screaming unlike any start to any year in my life. I would be watching the Rose Bowl parade ((my mom took us every year when we were kiddos. Freeze our asses off but it was so fun to camp out on Colorodo Blvd. Thanks mom :)) and getting ready to watch some games. I drove to go get take out for me and my wife last night and it was a ghost town and looked lonely for a Dec 31st. A toast to a build better businesses for everyone in 2021, not just for the chosen few :)

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There will be and are people with damaged psyches due to the virus, but I believe the large majority of the people will gladly move on with life as it was before the virus once the virus fades away.

I don't believe it was "manufactured" for "fear and control" - at least not in the US. I try to remember never to attribute to malice that can be explained by incompetence, but there's definitely a power struggle.

Some things are interesting to me going forward. The first is related to the fact that many appear to be surprised by the vaccine response here in CA. Based on who we elect, there is nothing about the response that surprised me. The feeling I get is that there is a significant number of people with children who are dissatisfied with CA's response in general and specifically w.r.t. children. With Newsome as governor, look at SF as your model. Since we all have children, I did two Google searches: "Is San Francisco good for raising children?" and "Is Austin good for raising children". Both areas are solidly blue. The first lines of the results are interesting.
SF: "San Francisco is a great city for the rich"
Austin: "Raising a family in Austin can be a wonderful experience."

Will the virus response accelerate the already existing trend to move out of CA? Beyond families moving out, we now have a few large companies moving out as well. We also have a greater acceptance of professionals working remotely - which may mean working outside of CA. For schools, how many will decide that public school is not the best alternative for them? I am not predicting a collapse, but I have to think that the tax base will take a hit significant enough to squeeze many existing programs - including public schools. We have also heard since the pandemic about how many communities are already underserved, and that's why the virus has inordinately affected those communities. I can't imagine that gets better.

Ha! I just realized I put up a rather negative post as my first in the new year. At least it is appropriate in the "Bad News Thread" and in "Off Topic 2" where all the crazies reside ;) Happy New Year to all the real people behind your screen names. I appreciate your civil discourse.


But in all seriousness, this is what my friend and I were debating the other day. How willing are people to move on, particularly when liberal governance and health experts may be reluctant to let them move on, with some companies insisting on health passports. Economically, my gut also tells me we are in a bubble fed by cheap money and redirected spending. I think it could go either way....there's lots of people ready to move on, some people with pent up demands for vacations and entertainment.....there's some people who aren't ready and/or have taken a serious hit from all this and the day or reckoning has been somewhat postponed by government policies. It depends largely what the President-Elect does, so the prediction depends on how much faith you have in him.

And the thing with the public schools is they are vulnerable to a spiral....lose students, cut programs (because the teacher salaries won't be touched)----> cut programs, lose more students ----> cut programs, and so on we go.
 


But in all seriousness, this is what my friend and I were debating the other day. How willing are people to move on, particularly when liberal governance and health experts may be reluctant to let them move on, with some companies insisting on health passports. Economically, my gut also tells me we are in a bubble fed by cheap money and redirected spending. I think it could go either way....there's lots of people ready to move on, some people with pent up demands for vacations and entertainment.....there's some people who aren't ready and/or have taken a serious hit from all this and the day or reckoning has been somewhat postponed by government policies. It depends largely what the President-Elect does, so the prediction depends on how much faith you have in him.

And the thing with the public schools is they are vulnerable to a spiral....lose students, cut programs (because the teacher salaries won't be touched)----> cut programs, lose more students ----> cut programs, and so on we go.

 
In March, Dr. Fauci said "there’s no reason to be walking around with a mask" and cautioned that "there are unintended consequences" with wearing them.

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Marco said he lied too.
Sen. Marco Rubio: Dr. Fauci lied about coronavirus to manipulate our behavior — that's appalling
Lol! Like I said the knowledge evolved. Seat belts weren’t mandatory for decades, you think they help?
 
Lol! Like I said the knowledge evolved. Seat belts weren’t mandatory for decades, you think they help?
I really listen to him early on. I heard that one of the Vaccines were made before Rona #19 was announced to the world. Did you know about that lie Husker Du? Are you espola too? Where did he go and whatever happen to Fact? I believed Dr Flip Flop and now I dont. Way too many flips for me and he's 80 and he doesnt give a rat's ass about any of us who lost everything. He made cover and now he is someone important. Plus, he has stock in the vaccine biz. I think he's a big fat liar. Seat belt helps unless your car is on fire and your stuck in the car and you can;t get seat belt off. I need to see more proof Husker and I need to see EVERYONE take the shot first. My wife and I are now open to taking the shot last after we see the side effects after all the souls take it. I'm laying low for the next 18 months. I dont need to travel, I wont pay to watch sports, I have a soon to be new gig that will allow me to make a buck from home. When I can go see prospects face to face and have real eye contact and close deals with a hand shake after all their objections are answered with honesty, then I be rolling in what I call, value based reward funds. It's a never ending account that handles are the deposits for you digitally. My fun comes when all I have to do is take withdrawals when I feel like. The more true value you bring, the more rewards
 
Weekly update - Looks like we are heading to about 80K for December. I was relieved to see that Redfield's projections may have been misrepresented by Forbes due to sloppy reporting. I'm inclined to believe he was.

There are some indications we are leveling off on cases. However, significant portions of the south (including Texas and Florida) and California are still rising. AZ appears to have reached its peak.

Current Daily Average: 2,464
Projection with current average: 76,377

Initial projections
Biden: 250,000 (Daily average: 8,064)
Me: 62,000 (Daily average: 2,000)
Final Tally: 78,016 deaths in December.

I was 16K too optimistic and Biden was off by 172K predicting 320% over the actual. That's not easy to do in a month. It also makes me wonder if it is now a requirement that all presidents ignore the guidance of the CDC? ;)

These results support Grace's assertion that there is a "Team Scared and Delusional" and Biden is part of it.
 
Final Tally: 78,016 deaths in December.

I was 16K too optimistic and Biden was off by 172K predicting 320% over the actual. That's not easy to do in a month. It also makes me wonder if it is now a requirement that all presidents ignore the guidance of the CDC? ;)

These results support Grace's assertion that there is a "Team Scared and Delusional" and Biden is part of it.
Romney calls for 'urgent' action to fix coronavirus vaccine delays
Only about 2.8 million people have been vaccinated
They want to blame t for the roll out by the states. What does he mean "urgent action to fix?" Our Governor said he was skeptical and and so are the rest of us, for reals bro. He wanted CA to take a looksy under da hood first to see what this vaccine is all about. Read the bill before you say, "yes." This is Wuhan Roulette and no two doses about that. Two tries at Bellys Palsy. The nurses and many I know in the know are 100%, "get it a away from me" attitude.
 
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