Bad News Thread

Grace T. said:
The issue with Florida is the Biden admin seems to want to put travel restrictions in place for punishing them for that. If he tries it, what will Florida do?
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www.local10.com

Biden Administration confirms there is no plan for travel ban for Florida

A news report sparked a harsh, politically-tinged public backlash from Florida leaders at all levels who commented on a travel ban supposedly under consideration by the Biden Administration. But no such plan exists.
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Grace T. said:
This is essentially the California plan. 6ft and cohorting assures middle and high schools will not return to normal next year. Best thing that can be said for it are that the tier thresholds are much looser than California's


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Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you look at the tier chart, all contact sports (those that cannot maintain 6 feet) are banned even in the blue tier.
 
So let me ask this- is this just "guidance" or can districts go rogue? Are there repercussions if these are not followed?

And, did I miss whether this applies to schools already open? (Sorry- skimming while working.)
 
Glitterhater said:
So let me ask this- is this just "guidance" or can districts go rogue? Are there repercussions if these are not followed?

And, did I miss whether this applies to schools already open? (Sorry- skimming while working.)
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Just guidance. Can be more restrictive. If less restrictive may be issues with teachers unions, insurance companies and facilities. Depends in big part how the states implement. Florida probably tells them to F off then what.
 
Grace T. said:
Just guidance. Can be more restrictive. If less restrictive may be issues with teachers unions, insurance companies and facilities. Depends in big part how the states implement. Florida probably tells them to F off then what.
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Last year Florida screwed up. This year they have a chance to do better.

papers.ssrn.com

JUE Insight: College Student Travel Contributed to Local COVID-19 Spread

Due to the suspension of in-person classes in response to the COVID-19 pandemic, students at universities with earlier spring breaks traveled and returned to ca
papers.ssrn.com
 
espola said:
Last year Florida screwed up. This year they have a chance to do better.

papers.ssrn.com

JUE Insight: College Student Travel Contributed to Local COVID-19 Spread

Due to the suspension of in-person classes in response to the COVID-19 pandemic, students at universities with earlier spring breaks traveled and returned to ca
papers.ssrn.com
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Abstract
Due to the suspension of in-person classes in response to the COVID-19 pandemic, students
at universities with earlier spring breaks traveled and returned to campus while those with
later spring breaks largely did not. We use variation in academic calendars to study how travel
affected the evolution of COVID-19 cases and mortality. Estimates imply that counties with
more early spring break students had a higher growth rate of cases than counties with fewer
early spring break students. The increase in case growth rates peaked two weeks after spring
break. Effects are larger for universities with students more likely to travel through airports,
to New York City, and to popular Florida destinations. Consistent with secondary spread to
more vulnerable populations, we find a delayed increase in mortality growth rates. Lastly, we
present evidence that viral infection transmission due to college student travel also occurred
prior to the COVID-19 pandemic.
 
Grace T. said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you look at the tier chart, all contact sports (those that cannot maintain 6 feet) are banned even in the blue tier.
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Why does the CDC come out with guidance like this when their own numbers show people under 24 have essentially ZERO risk.

Their mitigation strategies as you read it makes it sound like hey these kids/teens have something to be worried about.

The reality is a vaccine wont change the risk factor in any significant manner for the ages 24 and below since basically nobody in this age group is at risk.

Distancing, pods, masks...whatever make little sense because the data shows they have no risk.

Why do we put up with this dog and pony security theater show related to individuals who are not at risk?

People talk about when are the kids getting the vaccine so they can be safe and go back to school. Vaccine or not...they are safe and can go back to school. I posted how many under 24 have died this year due to covid. Vastly more have died from car crashes, etc.

It is bewildering to listen to these people and their guidance.
 
espola said:
Last year Florida screwed up. This year they have a chance to do better.

papers.ssrn.com

JUE Insight: College Student Travel Contributed to Local COVID-19 Spread

Due to the suspension of in-person classes in response to the COVID-19 pandemic, students at universities with earlier spring breaks traveled and returned to ca
papers.ssrn.com
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Weird that California has more cases per capita than Florida, yet Florida has had significantly less restrictions. Schools open, sports open, even Disney World is open and have been open for some time. Must be the humidity.
 
watfly said:
Weird that California has more cases per capita than Florida, yet Florida has had significantly less restrictions. Schools open, sports open, even Disney World is open and have been open for some time. Must be the humidity.
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Florida doesn’t report all cases, remember?
 
Grace T. said:
Just guidance. Can be more restrictive. If less restrictive may be issues with teachers unions, insurance companies and facilities. Depends in big part how the states implement. Florida probably tells them to F off then what.
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Yeah, in Santa Clara County, I never worry about National or State guidance. I know my county will make sure it goes to the "next level" to protect us and create more strict requirements. I am sure Sarah Cody is looking enviously at the UMass Amherst and UC Berkeley's restrictions on students not being allowed outside. Power + Special Interest Groups + Irrational Fear >> Science. Science never stood a chance.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
Yeah, in Santa Clara County, I never worry about National or State guidance. I know my county will make sure it goes to the "next level" to protect us and create more strict requirements. I am sure Sarah Cody is looking enviously at the UMass Amherst and UC Berkeley's restrictions on students not being allowed outside. Power + Special Interest Groups + Irrational Fear >> Science. Science never stood a chance.
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Can tou imagine writing that check to Cal for your kids eduction and them having to live under these restrictions?
 
As expected Florida is the first state to say f/u to the new cdc guidelines. Good for them. Where is that ticket office for the de santis express?
 
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