Would this forum be better if Dominic banned rhetorical questions?
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Would this forum be better if Dominic banned rhetorical questions?
Then he would have banned you years ago.
What effective treatments? We don’t have much for colds or the flu. Why should I expect a post-infection covid pill any time soon?
I think we are lucky to have the vaccines. We’ll probably have a booster before we have a good treatment.
Wrong on both accounts. Vaccines are available to anyone that wants one, which is the opposite of care rationing. The vaccine is already the option before the crisis hits, which will likely never occur. The crisis is purely hypothetical, created by Team "Doom and Gloom"
If you're unvaccinated and want to wear a mask, more power to you. No reason, other than virtue signaling to wear a mask if you're vaccinated. I have no power to require you to get a vaccination, as you have no power to require me to wear a mask to protect you if you chose not to be vaccinated. It's a pretty straight forward equation.
Is virtue signaling a bad thing?
(and that is not a rhetorical question - I would like to know your opinion)
Sounds familiar.
Last April you told us that covid was purely theoretical, and we did not need to worry about it.
That theoretical risk killed a half million people. Would it hurt too much to pay some attention to the next theoretical risk? Maybe get ahead of the game so we can handle it with masks and vaccines instead of lockdowns and care rationing?
Or do we have to wait until it is over so that Team Virus can argue it was all inevitable?
what-happened
GOLD
Mainly yes - corporate America and Hollywood have made sure that virtue signaling means more fluffy talk, less action.
Speaking of last April (I assume you meant April 2000) there is a new book out by Yasmeen Abutaleb and Damian Paletta: "Nightmare Scenario: Inside the Trump Administration's Response to the Pandemic That Changed History". The authors are Washington Post reporters who were assigned to report on the pandemic from the beginning. I'm tempted to read it, except that I think I already know what most of it is about.
If wearing masks in public is "virtue signaling" (as suggested by an earlier poster), that is action without talking.
Glitterhater
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This was an interesting first-person POV about recovering from long-haul covid. She fully admits she was able to do so since she was fairly financially priviledged. Makes you wonder how those not so priviledged, (AKA as lower-wage workers,) will be able to handle this without some government support:
www.theguardian.com
I rested my way to recovery from ‘long-haul Covid’. I urge others to do the same | Fiona Lowenstein
Rest and pacing, rather than graded exercise, seem the most effective treatments to prescribe widely to long Covid patients
www.theguardian.com
what-happened
GOLD
Well, I can barely understand anyone talking with a mask, so there is that. Isn't it interesting how the narrative of the mask has put people in two different camps. Both sides virtue signal - solidarity, both sides claiming science. Quite silly and time wasting.
The phrase ”virtue signalling” has never been part of a serious discussion. It is a generic insult for anyone doing something which they believe to be the right thing.
The open question at the moment is whether Delta or other variants pose a risk this winter. Almost no one from the anti-lockdown side wants to consider the possibility. We’re so happy getting rid of the masks that we are making ourselves incapable of being ready to deal with a problem if it shows up.
This again begs the question of whether you expect everyone to do the same thing every time a more than mild flu season or RSV epidemic pops up. It's interesting you use the words "a risk" instead of something like "substantial risk" because it points to you not being comfortable with any risk
I was in line at a fish place this weekend. Open air, ocean breeze, people 6 feet apart. Guy in front of me got all nervous when I got in line without a mask behind him. That's just irrational fear. At one point a guy without a mask and with a USA tattoo made his way across the line to get to the crab tank and pick up his meal. Masked guy in front of me muttered "all these damned maskless Republicans".
what-happened
GOLD
You are pretty sure your opinion is the correct one. That's pretty much the problem today.
It's not a generic insult, it's a phenomenon that is easily observed. Corporate America, Hollywood, celebrity athletes are not pious with their intent, whether it be supporting wearing masks/not wearing masks or supporting entities that on the surface appear to champion a cause.
Science has taken a back seat to narrative building and political hackery.
You know that is patently false and a complete mischaracterization of what I've said. I never ever said it was theoretical. I always said that it was serious, I questioned the doom and gloom projections (and the restrictions based on such), which in fact have not come to fruition. I vehemently disputed the burden put on our children and I will continue to do so. There will be administrators getting an earful from me if masks are required by students this fall.
At least in Los Angeles it seems the way things are shaking up so far is the vaccinated will not need to wear a mask but the unvaccinated (including kids too young for the vaccine) will. Still nothing decided yet though.
You have such fantastic adventures!
q.e.d.
While I think any mask requirement for students is gross overkill and the negative impacts outweigh the benefits, I could live with a mask requirement for the unvaccinated for those that are eligible for vaccination (but only if the virus is around at a level that is above nominal). Making those who are too young to get a vaccination wear a mask is criminal.
Sad life you lead if that's a fantastic adventure.