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Another possibility is that asymptomatic flu cases are common but not tested for. Thus presenting the appearance that COVID is more contagious.

don’t have any data on that but I like the question!
 
they are the bottom of the barrel out of medical school (just below pediatrician and above coroner) or couldn’t get into medical school so went into health policy. Just like it takes a certain type of nut job to be an attorney, it takes a particularly deficient personality set to get into their job (seriously have never seen such scorn out of my aap friend).
You should hear what the math dept types think of the LSAT and MCAT.

That doesn’t mean any of us know squat about law or business. It just means we are full of ourselves and look down on people who pick other professions.

If you want to talk about what does and does not make for a meaningful change the spread of disease, you still need the classes in biological dynamical systems. It doesn’t matter how smart you are. You don’t know the material.
 
You should hear what the math dept types think of the LSAT and MCAT.

That doesn’t mean any of us know squat about law or business. It just means we are full of ourselves and look down on people who pick other professions.

If you want to talk about what does and does not make for a meaningful change the spread of disease, you still need the classes in biological dynamical systems. It doesn’t matter how smart you are. You don’t know the material.

this another failing of the math science types. Same with law btw They think all of their field is somehow complicated that only experts can comprehend the basics. Some of it is. Not all of it

just because I never played pro mls doesn’t mean I dont have a comprehension of the basics of goalkeeping or can’t understand goalkeeping. Does big joe understand more than me? Yes. Absolutely. Does that mean big joe can’t be wrong about a point? No he can be. Can I catch him out? Yes particularly if I’ve come across another source that disputes him

same with flamenco. I spent a year study in spain. Does that mean I know more than Pascual? No. Does that mean Pascual is infallible? No. Does that mean pascual is immune to being questioned? No

So let’s take law. Even in that subject I’m pretty much a generalist and a specialist in say con law knows more than me. Does that mean I can’t opine on con law? No particularly since I’m capable of raising questions. Has that stopped you despite your math background from raising questions or questioning me? No. Have I told you to stfu about law because you understand nothing? No you are bright and the point of the forum is to discuss

but more than that the tradition of the renaissance is that we are all capable of independent thought. Information now is widely available and questions come from all areas. A degree doesn’t make you special or superior to anyone, or smarter since there are many dumb dumbs out there with degrees. It just makes you more knowledgeable, not infallible.
 
this another failing of the math science types. Same with law btw They think all of their field is somehow complicated that only experts can comprehend the basics. Some of it is. Not all of it

just because I never played pro mls doesn’t mean I dont have a comprehension of the basics of goalkeeping or can’t understand goalkeeping. Does big joe understand more than me? Yes. Absolutely. Does that mean big joe can’t be wrong about a point? No he can be. Can I catch him out? Yes particularly if I’ve come across another source that disputes him

same with flamenco. I spent a year study in spain. Does that mean I know more than Pascual? No. Does that mean Pascual is infallible? No. Does that mean pascual is immune to being questioned? No

So let’s take law. Even in that subject I’m pretty much a generalist and a specialist in say con law knows more than me. Does that mean I can’t opine on con law? No particularly since I’m capable of raising questions. Has that stopped you despite your math background from raising questions or questioning me? No. Have I told you to stfu about law because you understand nothing? No you are bright and the point of the forum is to discuss

but more than that the tradition of the renaissance is that we are all capable of independent thought. Information now is widely available and questions come from all areas. A degree doesn’t make you special or superior to anyone, or smarter since there are many dumb dumbs out there with degrees. It just makes you more knowledgeable, not infallible.

ps I’ll also reiterate a story I raised before. During lockdowns I had a bad bacterial infection I suspected was drug resistant. Two specialist told me nah the tests were good and all was well. My gp was suspicious and sent me for a second opinion who said I was a worry wart. One evening I came down with a high fever, vomiting and excruciating pain. The gp wanted to wait 24 hours. I said no and demanded to be switched to an antibiotic I had researched. He resisted...wanted to wait for the test. The next day the tests came back and the specialists noted i might be dead had I waited any longer. They didn’t want to admit me which would have been the logical steps because of the covid protocols and I’d have to give up custody of the kids (one of whom had been recovering from covid). But for questioning the experts I’d possibly be dead
 
You should hear what the math dept types think of the LSAT and MCAT.

That doesn’t mean any of us know squat about law or business. It just means we are full of ourselves and look down on people who pick other professions.

If you want to talk about what does and does not make for a meaningful change the spread of disease, you still need the classes in biological dynamical systems. It doesn’t matter how smart you are. You don’t know the material.
If they know so much, why aren't their predictions better? Why did it take them months to determine COVID was aerosolized? Why did they go back and forth on mask efficacy? I am not claiming they aren't experts, but to what end? If they had managed to earn any credibility at the beginning, maybe people would listen to them now. You don't get credibility with BS like that.
 
If they know so much, why aren't their predictions better? Why did it take them months to determine COVID was aerosolized? Why did they go back and forth on mask efficacy? I am not claiming they aren't experts, but to what end? If they had managed to earn any credibility at the beginning, maybe people would listen to them now. You don't get credibility with BS like that.
The aerosol question got political. Scientists were willing to say aerosol long before WHO.

Similarly, the CDC was worried that hoarding masks would make it impossible for hospitals to buy enough to protect doctors and nurses. The false message was corrected back in April.

I won't defend either message, but that's different from saying I think I understand epidemiology better than they do.
 
this another failing of the math science types. Same with law btw They think all of their field is somehow complicated that only experts can comprehend the basics. Some of it is. Not all of it

just because I never played pro mls doesn’t mean I dont have a comprehension of the basics of goalkeeping or can’t understand goalkeeping. Does big joe understand more than me? Yes. Absolutely. Does that mean big joe can’t be wrong about a point? No he can be. Can I catch him out? Yes particularly if I’ve come across another source that disputes him

same with flamenco. I spent a year study in spain. Does that mean I know more than Pascual? No. Does that mean Pascual is infallible? No. Does that mean pascual is immune to being questioned? No

So let’s take law. Even in that subject I’m pretty much a generalist and a specialist in say con law knows more than me. Does that mean I can’t opine on con law? No particularly since I’m capable of raising questions. Has that stopped you despite your math background from raising questions or questioning me? No. Have I told you to stfu about law because you understand nothing? No you are bright and the point of the forum is to discuss

but more than that the tradition of the renaissance is that we are all capable of independent thought. Information now is widely available and questions come from all areas. A degree doesn’t make you special or superior to anyone, or smarter since there are many dumb dumbs out there with degrees. It just makes you more knowledgeable, not infallible.

Renaissance style ‘salons’ or gatherings are not permitted at this time... ; )
 
Yup. I’ve pretty much got the country bent to my will at this point.

So fun watching youth soccer parents get what they deserve. Idiots went to places like Utah so their kids could play a kiddie sports and encourages others to also spread the covid and, guess what, now 3,000 people a day are dying.
Anyone notice how many college football games are being canceled and postponed?
 
Anyone notice how none of the players died or had any major issue?

When the games get cancelled or postponed the press talks about that aspect. They don't even in passing wonder if the players will be OK since they know that group of individuals is about the lowest risk

By this point too we should be hearing of a lot of stories with long term health issues that stop players from playing in the future.
 
Anyone notice how none of the players died or had any major issue?

When the games get cancelled or postponed the press talks about that aspect. They don't even in passing wonder if the players will be OK since they know that group of individuals is about the lowest risk

They are selected in advance for youth, fitness, and no serious pre-existing conditions.
 
It's a little early to know about "long-term" effects.

We can say the same thing about the vaccines...quite a sticky wickett this.....

But you are right....I should have said "intermediate effects"....but the concern with athletes had been if they play it might ruin their future careers. So far we haven't seen a whole lot of instances of athletes not able to return from COVID. Sincere question: anyone know of any actual cases of athletes who got COVID and had to hang it up?
 
They are selected in advance for youth, fitness, and no serious pre-existing conditions.

Hey look! The people with the lowest risk of dying - elite athletes - aren’t dying. Therefore I should be able to kill whoever I want. It makes perfect sense.
 
Hey look! The people with the lowest risk of dying - elite athletes - aren’t dying. Therefore I should be able to kill whoever I want. It makes perfect sense.
Our family thus far has been fortunate. My 79 yr old Mother In Law tested positive, lost her sense of taste for a few days and has been lucky enough (for her age/profile) to come out the other side and go back to work doing what she loves.

I got curious and started digging around in the CDC website on mortality rates and saw something i am still looking for additional support to substantiate. You’re pretty good at finding holes, maybe tou can help:

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Our family thus far has been fortunate. My 79 yr old Mother In Law tested positive, lost her sense of taste for a few days and has been lucky enough (for her age/profile) to come out the other side and go back to work doing what she loves.

I got curious and started digging around in the CDC website on mortality rates and saw something i am still looking for additional support to substantiate. You’re pretty good at finding holes, maybe tou can help:

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Dig properly. And stop using the wrong data for comparison, like Huckasans did before her stupid wannabe “analysis” was similarly debunked. Per your CDC, keeping in mind that the number of excess deaths so far is above the upper bound of estimates based on prior years, so it’s probably higher than even the 275,059 so far. And it obviously doesn’t account for the massive number we will have in December.

Hugs and kisses, The Truth.

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Don't necessarily agree with the commentary but another mask incident on an airplane involving a child......

What a Karen. Get off the damn plane if you can’t follow the airline’s rules. Period. It’s rude enough for Karen to bring her screaming 2 year old in normal times. But now making everyone around her run the risk of getting covid from her snotty little brat is inexcusable.
 
Dig properly. And stop using the wrong data for comparison, like Huckasans did before her stupid wannabe “analysis” was similarly debunked. Per your CDC, keeping in mind that the number of excess deaths so far is above the upper bound of estimates based on prior years, so it’s probably higher than even the 275,059 so far. And it obviously doesn’t account for the massive number we will have in December.

Hugs and kisses, The Truth.

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I don’t disagree, but question:

A) why you say it is my CDC, isn’t it our CDC?
B) what is the wrong data?

I’m just trying to understand the discrepancy between the numbers (2.8m in 2018 and 2.7m thru 12/7/20) which would include the 275k excessive deaths right? So am I right to assume the excess deaths are base on mortality estimate being lower for 2020 than 2018’s actual total?

Don’t try to flip this around into some justification for 11yr olds to play soccer. I’m asking a legitimate question for legitimate answers. (It’s open to others as well.)
 
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