The sad reality is that people die in epidemics. That’s always been the case and it’s the height of hubris to think we are now advanced enough it could be different. The only thing we are arguing about is how many and what’s the cost. Short of an australia or China the thing was never going to be controlled.
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Hüsker Dü
DA
So why try so hard?
Desert Hound
DA
Because people like you who have been conditioned to believe gov can control a virus demand it.
Hüsker Dü
DA
Who tells you these things? You ever think for yourself? Seems you lack the ability to reason.
Desert Hound
DA
Hello Bueller? Bueller?
You should read your posts.
You lack of self awareness is fascinating. I give you a plus mark due to the fact that you never swam quite as deep as EOTL.
My pal has a pal in China and he say's it's insane weather going on. Watch the Watters they say. Q told me to tell all of you not to panic and live in fear. I hear this week will be epic and biblical. I'm just passing on information. Take it with a grain of salt. Lot's of rumors of this and that going on and false teachers everywhere.
Interesting article from a left newspaper. 2008 was a real black eye to the expert economic consensus, and people like Summers and Bernake. They were shown up by some scrappy outsiders. And the crisis directly led to the rise of the Sanders left and the Trumpian populist right.
If the possibility of an engineered virus lab leak moves from the possible to the probable, it may very well have another similar affect against the health expert class and another blow to the establishment rule, particularly if it turns out the US (whether through Fauci or not) had a hand in it. The avatar moves health experts from a Saint Fauci icon to Dr. Frankenstein.
www.theguardian.com
If the possibility of an engineered virus lab leak moves from the possible to the probable, it may very well have another similar affect against the health expert class and another blow to the establishment rule, particularly if it turns out the US (whether through Fauci or not) had a hand in it. The avatar moves health experts from a Saint Fauci icon to Dr. Frankenstein.
If the Wuhan lab-leak hypothesis is true, expect a political earthquake | Thomas Frank
The potential consequences of the origins of the virus are shattering – if they can be proved
www.theguardian.com
Desert Hound
DA
"Because if the hypothesis is right, it will soon start to dawn on people that our mistake was not insufficient reverence for scientists, or inadequate respect for expertise, or not enough censorship on Facebook. It was a failure to think critically about all of the above, to understand that there is no such thing as absolute expertise. Think of all the disasters of recent years: economic neoliberalism, destructive trade policies, the Iraq War, the housing bubble, banks that are “too big to fail,” mortgage-backed securities, the Hillary Clinton campaign of 2016 — all of these disasters brought to you by the total, self-assured unanimity of the highly educated people who are supposed to know what they’re doing, plus the total complacency of the highly educated people who are supposed to be supervising them."Interesting article from a left newspaper. 2008 was a real black eye to the expert economic consensus, and people like Summers and Bernake. They were shown up by some scrappy outsiders. And the crisis directly led to the rise of the Sanders left and the Trumpian populist right.
If the possibility of an engineered virus lab leak moves from the possible to the probable, it may very well have another similar affect against the health expert class and another blow to the establishment rule, particularly if it turns out the US (whether through Fauci or not) had a hand in it. The avatar moves health experts from a Saint Fauci icon to Dr. Frankenstein.
If the Wuhan lab-leak hypothesis is true, expect a political earthquake | Thomas Frank
The potential consequences of the origins of the virus are shattering – if they can be proved
A major problem we have is that the press basically goes one way. So for example in the virus theory since T said it might have come from the lab, most of the press reflexively went the other way. They were concerned about sides and scoring points vs pursuing the truth.
It is unfortunate, but most of what is reported daily is done through the prism of a political point of view. And unfortunately the vast majority of the press leans heavily one way. Note: I would not want the reverse where the press leaned heavily the other way.
With the lab leak theory anyone who wondered if that actually happened were told the theory had been debunked, or they were Trumpys or just plain conspiracy theorists.
Now that it is allowable to discuss it, suddenly the press is talking about it. The fact that now they are and they were not a year ago says a lot about how the press works. They had little interest in looking at it objectively because T might be right. They were more interesting in playing gotcha vs actually investigating the origins of a virus that shut down most of the world. That seems to be a rather big story if true, and yet they spent their time telling everyone it was crazy to think it was a man made virus.
Funny how quickly things change. It may turn out to be naturally occurring in the end. But that isn't the point. They should have been digging into the story.
If one only gets their info from one side of the spectrum, they are not getting the full story. Or at a min they will lack some of the nuance of the issue. If for instance you only read the NY Times, you generally only hear reasons why taxes shouldn't be lowered, or why taxes should be increased. They never give a good overview of why there are reasons why taxes should be lowered. The reader doesn't get a full view of both sides of the issue.
And that lack of both sides of the issue relates to the false Russian angle with Trump, the lack of interest into the origins of the virus, etc.
It behooves people to read news from a range of sources to get a better understanding of issues vs reading/watching those that agree with ones point of view.
The crazy part about the lab story is its not a left or right story...its not a partisan issue. It was media "debunked" only because Trump thought it was worth investigating. Same thing happened initially with the "Trump vaccine". Unfortunately, in a way its just an extension of identity politics where we consider the individual/group, or the consider the skin color, gender, orientation, ethnicity as a factor greater than the actual facts. (Now there was some stupid crap that came out of Trump's mouth, but in this case there was some evidence that the media just chose to ignore and not investigate.)
Desert Hound
DA
It certainly should never have been a partisan issue.
The story potentially is one of the biggest ever. If a virus was man made, leaked out of a lab and shut down much of the world economy, it is hard to think of a bigger story...EVER.
All politicians say dumb things. The press however should not base coverage of issues based on that.
To be honest maybe more disturbing is how Facebook, Twitter and Youtube basically were censoring posts related to talking about the virus being man made. If they were small sites this would not matter. The fact that today they are essentially the town square and they are shutting down debate is quite frankly rather chilling.
Hound, I know of only one bigger story but it hasn't happen yet
Remember back in 2019 and the sore losers? My gosh, the same one's who started their either or BS on Fakebook are the same ones going around telling us to get our shots and what's the freaking hold up. Yes, the same one's who said I'm a racist just because they were and kneeled and wanted me to kneel. Yup, easy to spot now. Nowhere to run or hide. It will come down to a choice and once people see the truth, they will kneel bro Also, my bro told me about some of his best, best pals from 9 months of hell in Vietnam that were killed for no good reason we find out were some of the bravest and amazing men he met. He went in at 17. I'm starting to think we lost some really really gr8t men and woman over the years in these senseless wars and the one's who made it out alive need are love & support. Bankers playing war games with our kids blood is BS!!! I was for Iraq war before I found out the truth. The truth will set us all free. The only one's not getting the truth are the one's who run and hide from it because their life has been one BIG Lie!!! Cheaters and sore freaking losers.
If this is real, what happened to the guy? TDS? Realized he might have had a hand in starting it? Bought the Chinese propaganda?
kickingandscreaming
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Power? Ego?