Bruddah IZ
DA
PCR is obscure at best. Please continue.
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Bruddah IZ
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Your behavior is based on the use of the PCR test that does not detect the presence of a virus. The PCR only picks up genetic sequences of corona virus. Doesn't tell us when those genetic sequences showed up in your nasal passage. Not that your credibility can be restored at his point.
The guy who invented the test said his test is not for what's it's being used for today. BTW, he died 2019, right before the Rona. This is insane times we live in. One of my best pals and smartest cats I know, won;t talk to me because he knows he made a huge mistake.
Bruddah IZ
DA
Virtue signaling folks usually live in glass houses.
Bruddah IZ
DA
Wonder what the narrative would have been if Mullis was still alive. Is your friend a Lobster?
No bro. This guy is brainwashed unlike anyone I know. I say this with complete sadness too. I swear he's not the same guy I've known for 33 years. He's my mentor so to speak. Super cool bro too. He was born Jewish. His dad lied to him about being power of attorney of his estate, which was valued at around $2,220,000.00. His dad married his evil step mom when he was just 13. His mom left his dad because he was mean and abusive and she met someone who loved her. She moved to Oregon and opened up a Bed & Breakfast. His old man taught him that money is only a tool. Well, the old man died and guess what Bruddah?
For the behavior theory to hold up it would need to apply across Asia but somehow exclude the Phillipines and Indonesia. What that behavior is would be very head scratching because it’s not masks....India having very different usage than Japan. The other thing we know from seroprevalence studies in India is 30-50% depending on region were infected in the first wave but did not fall as seriously ill as that rate would suggest in the west. Then there’s also Africa which until now had also been spared (Southern Africa excluded)
Desert Hound
DA
One has to be skeptical of science due to the fact that so much of it is funded by government. Government usually has a particular point of view and research funding is based on that point of view.
Then take the fact that science is always evolving as researches find/discover/learn new things.
Desert Hound
DA
At this stage for you, it means nothing.
You are vaccinated. So it is not going to help.
Since most people have been vaccinated, when I see someone wearing one now I just shake my head and think...you are vaccinated, take off the silly mask and live your life.
Perhaps the Philippines, India, and Indonesia have a behavioral culture and economic status that is subtly different from the culture and economy in China, Korea, and Japan.
I know those six countries are almost indistinguishable, but maybe, just maybe, there is some teeny little distinction that you’ve overlooked.
Like, say, number of people per household and median income per capita. Something obscure you might not notice when visiting.
It’s quite difficult to feel affection for someone who values their morning latte more than their neighbor.
Misanthropy is a natural consequence of that realization. Not a happy consequence, admittedly.
You and I do not agree about the definition of zero. I think of 0.05 and 0.00 as different numbers. You do not.
It’s not economics. Vietnam Laos and Cambodia are not on par with Japan or even China. They are nearer to parity with the Philippines. So why did they behave like Japan instead of the phillipines? It’s not masks...the usage there is also very different and in the Philippines was very rigorous. Government policy? Cambodia welcomed in cruise ships to debark and its leadership was as much deniers at first as Brazil. I suppose it could be cultural but I am suspicious of cultural arguments which strip down to the lowest common to try and rationalize. I find the prior coronavirus exposure theory more compelling: it explains why all of Asia and Africa and much of the Mid East (excepting notably isolated Israel) was spared in the first wave, why the second wave could take off in India despite the high seroprevalence and why there have been reports of reinfection in people who did not have serious cases the first time around. Another alternative is genetics but again it would have to hold true from Malaysia to Japan.
Desert Hound
DA
As usual you are not good at understanding risk.
I believe you are in your 40s and healthy. That age group constitutes just 3% of all covid deaths. In other words unless you are very sick in that age range you have no real risk.
Add to the fact you have your vaccine that is 95% effective and your risk drops even further.
And add in to the fact that a substantial percentage of the population is now vaccinated drops your risk again.
So outside of having no concept of risk, or virtue signaling, or being paranoid, there is no reason for you to run around wearing a mask.
But you are a true believer...and just a few weeks ago told us all that you would likely wear a mask during upcoming flu seasons. And that kind of outlines your mindset.
What evidence is there for extensive prior exposure? You really think 2 billion people in Asia were exposed to a closely related virus but no one noticed?
Seems likely that such a virus would have made some serious waves in the Asian nursing homes. I mean, if a new cold virus had run all over Japan, their nursing homes would have had a spike in hospitalizations that required a serious investigation.
Have you figured out how vaccines work yet?
There are 6 other coronaviruses. Even excluding the rare ones there are 3 endemic to Asia and coronavirus infections are more prevalent in Asia than in Europe or the Americas. Further see studies posted on this thread re prior T cell immunity.
Ps the funny thing is with Europe (excluding Norway and Finland and some others like Greece) now in decline, most countries of the world (China Australia New Zealand excepted) will wind up in the roughly the same band with east Asia doing a little better and South America doing a little worse but pretty much everywhere else having been hit the same...vaccine rollout making the most material difference.
I still think BTW if the IFR had been closer to 3%, struck everyone equally and with an R0 of 2 or higher with airborne and surface transmission, we would have gotten a scenario closer to Contagion. At 25%IFR, that movie is not possible...people starve when food production collapses and MREs run out, the power and internet don't stay on, police and fire services (not just garbage) breaks down and there is not shop open (let alone there to reopen) at the end to buy a prom dress.