Bad News Thread

dad4 said:
Suspend the constitution?

I think you’re the only one to propose that. Maybe we can close the restaurants, bars, casinos, churches, theaters, and coffee shops first and see how it goes.

I know. It’s a dictatorship if you have to pour your own vodka. You’ll be ok. If Yeltsin could do it, so can you.
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Yeltsin could not do it...he was usually falling down drunk

You are the one even now that says close the churches (SCOTUS has ruled on it....unconstitutional if you are giving them more restrictive indoor treatment, unconstitutional if you ban outdoor worship but allow protests), restaurants (at least one case has ruled outdoor restaurant bans lacked a rational basis and HHS comments today open the door for a constitutional rationale basis test against Newsoms restrictions), protests (first amendment), and your great idea of having the police go door to door and issue tickets for gatherings (warrantless searches).

So you're back to backpeddling? They should make goalpost moving an event for the parents before tournaments....you'll surely take the prize given how much you weave and dive. So we'll start where we began: Los Angeles did all this stuff....didn't work.

And for the record that's not what EOTL was asking for....he wanted to go farther and suspend the Constitution to get Australia/NZ/Singapore solutions.
 
Glitterhater said:
I agree with this. However, a lot of people who wants kids in school are the same ones that don't want to follow any other restrictions, so they bring it *to* school from home. So how do we fix that?
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Unfortunately, you can't fix stupid. It's probably the same parents that always sent their kids to school sick.

Very valid points and I feel bad for kids on that roller coaster. I have no solutions either, other than to forge ahead and work through it, which isn't a very good solution.
 
Grace T. said:
Yeltsin could not do it...he was usually falling down drunk

You are the one even now that says close the churches (SCOTUS has ruled on it....unconstitutional if you are giving them more restrictive indoor treatment, unconstitutional if you ban outdoor worship but allow protests), restaurants (at least one case has ruled outdoor restaurant bans lacked a rational basis and HHS comments today open the door for a constitutional rationale basis test against Newsoms restrictions), protests (first amendment), and your great idea of having the police go door to door and issue tickets for gatherings (warrantless searches).

So you're back to backpeddling? They should make goalpost moving an event for the parents before tournaments....you'll surely take the prize given how much you weave and dive. So we'll start where we began: Los Angeles did all this stuff....didn't work.

And for the record that's not what EOTL was asking for....he wanted to go farther and suspend the Constitution to get Australia/NZ/Singapore solutions.
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Warrantless search? Nah. If you have 30 cars parked on your street and the neighbors called in a complaint, I think there is probable cause to knock on the door and say hello. You don’t need a signed warrant for that.

We don’t ask police to have a signed warrant to knock on the door for noise complaints. Nor do we need to suspend the constitution to deal with it. This isn’t all that different. Just put on a mask and meet your friends outside. Problem solved.
 
dad4 said:
Warrantless search? Nah. If you have 30 cars parked on your street and the neighbors called in a complaint, I think there is probable cause to knock on the door and say hello. You don’t need a signed warrant for that.

We don’t ask police to have a signed warrant to knock on the door for noise complaints. Nor do we need to suspend the constitution to deal with it. This isn’t all that different. Just put on a mask and meet your friends outside. Problem solved.
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So we're back to asking neighbors to inform on their neighbors? Both LA and NY tried that. Unless its a loud large party, folks for the most part said no thanks. And now the LA DA is apparently going to enforce party complaints when he's not going to enforce petty trespass, petty theft, vagrancy, public urination/intoxication, and resisting arrest? That's not where the gatherings are happening anyway. They are like my neighbors celebrating their 21st birthday having 5-6 bros over and drinking beer all night. An army of Karens informing on people for celebrating thanksgiving....even better.
 
In our county, LEO's have decided not to fine, punish, whatever - they are taking an "Education approach" to those who go against public health recs. Which really means they are too busy with more dangerous stuff, (true.)
 
Glitterhater said:
In our county, LEO's have decided not to fine, punish, whatever - they are taking an "Education approach" to those who go against public health recs. Which really means they are too busy with more dangerous stuff, (true.)
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My neighbors got fined for doing a Halloween party in LA County. Dad keeps vacillating between "reasonable, common sense" limitations that rely on the good graces of others and that LA County has tried and failed at, and hard core authoritarian policies he wishes he could do if he could get away with it.
 
Grace T. said:
My neighbors got fined for doing a Halloween party in LA County. Dad keeps vacillating between "reasonable, common sense" limitations that rely on the good graces of others and that LA County has tried and failed at, and hard core authoritarian policies he wishes he could do if he could get away with it.
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Glad to hear it. How large was the party?

I learned recently that my grandmother recovered from covid, but at a cost of rapidly accelerated dementia. Low oxygen is bad for brains.

No tears from me if someone got a $250 dollar fine for hosting a spreader event. Hope they learned and don't hold another one.
 
dad4 said:
Glad to hear it. How large was the party?

I learned recently that my grandmother recovered from covid, but at a cost of rapidly accelerated dementia. Low oxygen is bad for brains.

No tears from me if someone got a $250 dollar fine for hosting a spreader event. Hope they learned and don't hold another one.
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It was a large party complete with fancy Halloween decorations. The neighborhood (the one right next to us) is known for its fancy decorations and Halloween celebrations. But you miss the point (in your usual thick way).....Los Angeles is doing this already and your solution isn't working. These are the parties they can catch (with the large cars and obvious noise). It's not working, which is why you are flirting with going full totalitarianism like our friend EOTL.
 
dad4 said:
Glad to hear it. How large was the party?

I learned recently that my grandmother recovered from covid, but at a cost of rapidly accelerated dementia. Low oxygen is bad for brains.

No tears from me if someone got a $250 dollar fine for hosting a spreader event. Hope they learned and don't hold another one.
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Sorry to hear about your grandmother.
 
Grace T. said:
It was a large party complete with fancy Halloween decorations. The neighborhood (the one right next to us) is known for its fancy decorations and Halloween celebrations. But you miss the point (in your usual thick way).....Los Angeles is doing this already and your solution isn't working. These are the parties they can catch (with the large cars and obvious noise). It's not working, which is why you are flirting with going full totalitarianism like our friend EOTL.
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Yup. I’ve pretty much got the country bent to my will at this point.

So fun watching youth soccer parents get what they deserve. Idiots went to places like Utah so their kids could play a kiddie sports and encourages others to also spread the covid and, guess what, now 3,000 people a day are dying.
 
EOTL said:
Yup. I’ve pretty much got the country bent to my will at this point.

So fun watching youth soccer parents get what they deserve. Idiots went to places like Utah so their kids could play a kiddie sports and encourages others to also spread the covid and, guess what, now 3,000 people a day are dying.
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You, sir, are the biggest asshole on the boards. My kid didn't go to Utah because he wanted to play soccer. It's because he was fairly close to a mental breakdown and needed to get out of California's horrible oppressive environment. We would have stayed there permanently through the emergency if medical necessity (and the need to have our neighbors take custody of them) hadn't intervened. My niece wasn't so lucky and wound up trying to kill herself. So shut the fuck up you absolute total piece of human garbage NitF.
 
EOTL said:
Yup. I’ve pretty much got the country bent to my will at this point.

So fun watching youth soccer parents get what they deserve. Idiots went to places like Utah so their kids could play a kiddie sports and encourages others to also spread the covid and, guess what, now 3,000 people a day are dying.
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Interesting take
 
20% of MLS players have had COVID. I'd guess a similar proportion in Europe. Enough of a base for us to definitively know if COVID causes any intermediate term problems in the young and healthy. Surprised if no one has studied it to date....... It's also consistent with the estimates for COVID across the country being somewhere in the 20%-30% range.


www.espn.com

MLS union: Nearly 20% of players had COVID-19

MLS Players Association says nearly 20% of players contracted COVID-19 in 2020.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
 
Grace T. said:
You, sir, are the biggest asshole on the boards. My kid didn't go to Utah because he wanted to play soccer. It's because he was fairly close to a mental breakdown and needed to get out of California's horrible oppressive environment. We would have stayed there permanently through the emergency if medical necessity (and the need to have our neighbors take custody of them) hadn't intervened. My niece wasn't so lucky and wound up trying to kill herself. So shut the fuck up you absolute total piece of human garbage NitF.
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Ah, does mocking people only work one way for you? Try not doing it and see what happens. Otherwise shut the fuck up you absolute total piece of human garbage. Too bad about your niece. Too bad about the 300,000 people who have actually died from covid. If you’re gonna engage in your patronizing snark and disregard for human life, believe me I will keep returning the favor. It is the only way to convince people like you to get it together.
 
EOTL said:
Ah, does mocking people only work one way for you? Try not doing it and see what happens. Otherwise shut the fuck up you absolute total piece of human garbage. Too bad about your niece. Too bad about the 300,000 people who have actually died from covid. If you’re gonna engage in your patronizing snark and disregard for human life, believe me I will keep returning the favor. It is the only way to convince people like you to get it together.
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And by the way @Grace T., do you want another 16 pages of posts discussing politics and covid-19 before I said a word and you started blaming me for going off topic?
 
EOTL said:
Ah, does mocking people only work one way for you? Try not doing it and see what happens. Otherwise shut the fuck up you absolute total piece of human garbage. Too bad about your niece. Too bad about the 300,000 people who have actually died from covid. If you’re gonna engage in your patronizing snark and disregard for human life, believe me I will keep returning the favor. It is the only way to convince people like you to get it together.
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I may attack dad and your alter ego, but only when I've been attack first. And I've never attacked anyone's kid like you inhuman piece of slime
 
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