notintheface
GOLD
Quit being an inflammatory moron. You are not a special snowflake.
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Quit being an inflammatory moron. You are not a special snowflake.
notintheface
GOLD
Vegas lined up for food:
Quick, get Vegas Cup on the line, that will magically make it all better!
Quick, get Vegas Cup on the line, that will magically make it all better!
I don't blame Newsom for Covid infections at all, the virus is going to do its thing, as is evidenced by the fact that despite the some of the strictest restrictions, California has skyrocketing cases, hospitalizations, and deaths. I blame him for putting a wholly unnecessary, non-evidence based devastating burden on our children and in many cases small business.
notintheface
GOLD
San Diego:
No no, if we put out a consistent message from the federal government we'll cause a civil war! Fucking morons...
No no, if we put out a consistent message from the federal government we'll cause a civil war! Fucking morons...
Quit being an ignorant fool. You can't go around suspending the Constitution. And if you could, Trump should have just declared it was unsafe to hold the election and pushed it out a year.
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
We? You and me? Folks who can sit in their house and pay all their bills? The decision is easy for me - and I didn't need an epidemiologist to figure it out. It's a virus. It spreads very easily and older folks are at significant risk.
I have no idea how people are handling the issue of distancing where the virus is spreading the most in our own county. Do you?
notintheface
GOLD
QUICK LET ME EXTRAPOLATE INTO THE MOST REACTIONARY RESPONSE I CAN THINK OF
YOUR REACTION OF SUSPENDING THE CONSTITUTION TO BE NZ SINGAPORE OR AUSTRALIA IS ONE OF THE MOST RADICAL THINGS YOU CAN SAY IDIOT
I'm not going to condone any politicians, or Fauci's, messaging, but you really think the food lines would be any shorter with a military style lockdown? Maybe they would because people wouldn't even be allowed in a food line, they'd just die in their homes.
What would you propose for Constitutional restrictions and please provide evidence that those restrictions work? Also please explain how you would mitigate the mental, educational and economic damages from your lockdown. I'm all ears.
Even Biden's policy doesn't go as afar as his. Biden's policy basically amounts to:
1. Ask people to wear masks nicely and force elements of the federal government (workers/military) to do it
2. Finish Trump's vaccine rollout.
3. Open schools
4. Ask Congress for a boatload of more money
Distancing in east SJ: (our hot spot)
When public parks are open, they are playing soccer and basketball in the parks. No masks, but outdoors and windy. Not a big problem.
When public parks are closed, people drive each other to the rich side of town so they can play soccer and basketball there. The games are probably fine, but I’m sure some of them catch it on the car ride over and back. Then abuela catches it and the numbers go up. If abuela goes to indoor services that week, the numbers go up a lot.
I'm encouraged that schools are on his list, kudos to Biden, unfortunately I don't see it making it difference a in California. Remember the Federal government can't mandate or withhold funding from California, only Newsom can do something like that with his Counties.
Suspend the constitution?
I think you’re the only one to propose that. Maybe we can close the restaurants, bars, casinos, churches, theaters, and coffee shops first and see how it goes.
I know. It’s a dictatorship if you have to pour your own vodka. You’ll be ok. If Yeltsin could do it, so can you.
Desert Hound
DA
That photo supposed to prove a point?
The policies you decry here in the US imply you like them somewhere else. Our obvious reference point would be W. Europe. They have not done any better.
1) Closing business is not sustainable. It is not sustainable to the people out of work, nor is it sustainable for the various governments that need that tax revenue.
2) It isn't sustainable socially. People are social animals. If you say we cannot go here, then they will go there. Happens in every country
3) Preventing kids from going to school is simply madness
And so on.
All for a virus that isn't particularly deadly for the overwhelming majority of people. Focus on the at risk people.
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
Do you have a link to that information?
Desert Hound
DA
Cannot tell much from the photo other than a long line of cars.
But running with your photo...one would assume they are lined up because their workplaces have been limited by gov action right? If they could go to work normally, there wouldn't be a line.
Or what is your take?
Desert Hound
DA
That basically IS a dictatorship.
Deciding that people cannot work. Taking away their ability to survive. Taking away their ability to save for the future. Taking away their ability to lets say afford college that their kids are in now, etc.
Screw them right? It is just 40-50 million people affected by those "moderate" proposals.
Glitterhater
SILVER ELITE
I agree with this. However, a lot of people who wants kids in school are the same ones that don't want to follow any other restrictions, so they bring it *to* school from home. So how do we fix that?re kids.....
Exclusive: We finally know how much kids spread coronavirus. Here’s how it can help schools.
Big decisions around COVID-19 and children have been heavy on politics and short on science. New large-scale studies are changing that.www.nationalgeographic.com
Kids are in school up here in a myriad of ways, (even some 5x/week.) We get letters, phone calls, etc, almost daily about positive cases at school. Again, being brought from home. Then the whole class is sent home for 2 weeks, rinse repeat.
There has to be a better way, and I am just glad I'm not tasked with finding it. Nor do I pretend to think any sweeping way will work.