Bad News Thread

kickingandscreaming said:
Oopsie! Sorry for the lost year, kids! We messed up.
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My pal has a son playing his last year of hsb. Sorry Charlie, only adults allowed to watch. No students allowed. Asshats are so whacked with their stupid rules all because they say they hate someone more than allowing freedom. Stealing a kids one year of prime years will not go unpunished. Just wait everyone. Losers who mess with the kids will have swift justice. Losers will pay back and sum. Stealing a kids year all because of selfishness and fear of dying?
 
Grace T. said:
The problem now is they are being hit by price increases in wages and commodities but they are unable to raise prices as demand isn't fully back yet.



Oh, I didn't know every where in the world, including India, the Czech Republic, Spain, Peru, Argentina and the Phillipines were "oh yeah watch this" societies.
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More guesses?
 
Grace T. said:
As prior stated, what the manager of the sushi place told me (which is consistent with what the manager at the pub down the street is saying...also not a big take out place since not much demand for fish and chips during COVID).
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Why do you engage Espola and Dad4? You know the two are the same, as was EOTL. Dom knows what's up. These two are the last of the losers who are only here to sow hate and division. Dudes don't care about any small biz, kids life or others for that matter. Karma is coming hard for those who steal life from others. Breathing at with machines and medication will cause some to choke in their sleep. All their fears will come true.
 
dad4 said:
She is changing the topic. She can't find a decent argument that cloth masks fail in normal life, like when you are in line for ice cream at the beach.

Therefore, she assumed that most people are flying, and showed that cloth masks are insufficient protection on airplanes. Which they are.

But that doesn't make her argument apply at all to normal, day to day life. It just means don't get on an airplane without getting vaccinated.
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Mask don't work. Says so right on the box at COSTCO. That way all the employees know to wear them. Plus they are cheap and made in China. So cool.


 
Grace T. said:
As prior stated, what the manager of the sushi place told me (which is consistent with what the manager at the pub down the street is saying...also not a big take out place since not much demand for fish and chips during COVID).
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Your contributions to the thread were so predictable that I had you on mechanical ignore for a while, but that also blocked your contributions to other threads, such as questions on the rules and referee behavior where you actually have some relevant experience.
 
Grace T. said:
As prior stated, what the manager of the sushi place told me (which is consistent with what the manager at the pub down the street is saying...also not a big take out place since not much demand for fish and chips during COVID).
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Maskspola is sugar rushin' off that 2nd litre of Coke. He'll be fine.
 
espola said:
Your contributions to the thread were so predictable that I had you on mechanical ignore for a while, but that also blocked your contributions to other threads, such as questions on the rules and referee behavior where you actually have some relevant experience.
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Speaking of predictable and fragile too. I see where Huspola gets it from now.
 
espola said:
Your contributions to the thread were so predictable that I had you on mechanical ignore for a while, but that also blocked your contributions to other threads, such as questions on the rules and referee behavior where you actually have some relevant experience.
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You are welcome to go back on ignore. You are the only person around here more than dad4 and myself filled with a greater sense of self-importance, yet much less deservedly so based on your past contributions.
 
crush said:
Why do you engage Espola and Dad4? You know the two are the same, as was EOTL. Dom knows what's up. These two are the last of the losers who are only here to sow hate and division. Dudes don't care about any small biz, kids life or others for that matter. Karma is coming hard for those who steal life from others. Breathing at with machines and medication will cause some to choke in their sleep. All their fears will come true.
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I like dad4. I had a hard time figuring him out though. At first I thought it was risk aversion, introversion and the teaching background...maybe he was just really frightened. Then I thought maybe he's just blue pilling. Then that he was a true believer policy advocate. Then a hard core liberal D (but his trans position disavowed me of that notion). Then back to maybe he's just an ivory tower professor blue pilling it in math world. Then the clouds burst and I got it: he's a preacher. He doesn't really care about the policy outcome (or he'd articulate it) and he's not an advocate (because he does question his own stuff and just sticks to lose principles rather than hard core policy prescriptions)....he's a preacher and cares more about whether we behave good and morally than anything else.

As for espola, he amuses me. EOTL (for attacking my kids) and Sheriff Joe (for racism) are the only 2 I've every blocked.
 
espola said:
More guesses?
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You live a sheltered life. You think printing trillions doesn't do anything?

"Inflation is soaring in the United States and at a higher rate than analysts predicted. In April 2021, the consumer price index saw a 4.3 percent jump, the fastest increase since 2008"

So no... not guesses.
 
Grace T. said:
You are welcome to go back on ignore. You are the only person around here more than dad4 and myself filled with a greater sense of self-importance, yet much less deservedly so based on your past contributions.
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I must admit that my attempts at educating you have failed.
 
Grace T. said:
Why do you need a cloth mask outside on the beach when the transmission outdoors is less than 1%? Unless you are hanging out in line with a buddy that's sick and have been speaking with them for a while, there's no reason for it. The mask does nothing in either case for reducing cases. Same with a factory, because people after a long day are going to socialize. Same with a meat packing plant, because they are stuck together for so long in close quarters and have to talk loudly to be heard. Same with a fishing boat or stable where people sleep on site. Same with residences, where the vast majority of transmissions occur. Same with indoor dining or a movie theatre, where people are going to lower their masks to eat.

Where can they help? Short term exposures like grocery stores and doctor's waiting rooms....not exactly the essential workers they were trying to be assuring for. Or, as you pointed out, greeting a friend quickly less than 6 feet apart or walking side by side, or at the McDonald's drive thru. But the universe of what they can help is very limited. Hence, my guess is that they probably contributed to maybe an overall reduction of 5-15% of cases which otherwise would have happened. Just a guess, but I think it's a pretty good ballpark for what masks alone (not coupled with the moving goalpost of distancing) ends up.
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You need the cloth mask while you are in the ice cream line, because while in line you are close to other people.

You do not need a mask while sitting down watching the surf, because you are not near other people.

Remember the video you sent out? With no mask, your breath goes out several feet, possibly infecting other people. If you wear a mask, it doesn't.

You keep searching for the absolute minimum you can do. Why not just wear the mask near other people, then watch the waves with your ice cream? It's as though you are afraid to wear a mask 30 seconds longer than absolutely necessary.
 
espola said:
I must admit that my attempts at educating you have failed.
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Haha....given the teachers I've had over the years, both formal and informal, your statement is probably one of the more arrogant ones I've heard in a while....as I was saying the only guy more than dad4 or I with a bigger sense of self-importance and who even has his own neighborhood, yet never less richly deserved.
 
dad4 said:
You need the cloth mask while you are in the ice cream line, because while in line you are close to other people.

You do not need a mask while sitting down watching the surf, because you are not near other people.

Remember the video you sent out? With no mask, your breath goes out several feet, possibly infecting other people. If you wear a mask, it doesn't.

You keep searching for the absolute minimum you can do. Why not just wear the mask near other people, then watch the waves with your ice cream? It's as though you are afraid to wear a mask 30 seconds longer than absolutely necessary.
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Speaking of the beach, remember these guys?

 
dad4 said:
You need the cloth mask while you are in the ice cream line, because while in line you are close to other people.

You do not need a mask while sitting down watching the surf, because you are not near other people.

Remember the video you sent out? With no mask, your breath goes out several feet, possibly infecting other people. If you wear a mask, it doesn't.

You keep searching for the absolute minimum you can do. Why not just wear the mask near other people, then watch the waves with your ice cream? It's as though you are afraid to wear a mask 30 seconds longer than absolutely necessary.
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Because of the length of exposure is what all of 3-4 minutes? In the ice cream line, outdoors, 6 feet marked on the pavement no thanks. Bit of overkill. It would also undermine the argument for outdoor dining. Not necessary. But maybe taking a half hour walk side by side with a buddy that's not feeling well while eating an ice cream cone that's probably not a good idea even if outdoors.
 
Grace T. said:
Why do you need a cloth mask outside on the beach when the transmission outdoors is less than 1%? Unless you are hanging out in line with a buddy that's sick and have been speaking with them for a while, there's no reason for it. The mask does nothing in either case for reducing cases. Same with a factory, because people after a long day are going to socialize. Same with a meat packing plant, because they are stuck together for so long in close quarters and have to talk loudly to be heard. Same with a fishing boat or stable where people sleep on site. Same with residences, where the vast majority of transmissions occur. Same with indoor dining or a movie theatre, where people are going to lower their masks to eat.

Where can they help? Short term exposures like grocery stores and doctor's waiting rooms....not exactly the essential workers they were trying to be assuring for. Or, as you pointed out, greeting a friend quickly less than 6 feet apart or walking side by side, or at the McDonald's drive thru. But the universe of what they can help is very limited. Hence, my guess is that they probably contributed to maybe an overall reduction of 5-15% of cases which otherwise would have happened. Just a guess, but I think it's a pretty good ballpark for what masks alone (not coupled with the moving goalpost of distancing) ends up.
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With respect to factories, you should have an N95, good ventilation, and take your beaks outside.

Half of the things you mentioned are things we should not be doing. You get a low estimate because you assume we socialize indoors: dinner parties, movie theaters, and do on.

Assume we socialize outdoors. It helps.
 
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