Bad News Thread

N00B said:
Does this belong in the good news or bad news thread?

https://www.icd10monitor.com/false-positives-in-pcr-tests-for-covid-19

Looks like CA positivity is hovering around 8% which appears to be the axis point where percentage of false positives decline vs actual positives... but when positivity % is lower, doesn’t look like the CA Blueprint works due to the false positive rate.

Thoughts?
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Bad news on a couple of levels from what I can tell. The first bit of bad news is that, if true, it is another example where trust in "experts" is undermined. As the study states, we have been told to trust a PCR test that is positive. This also makes reaching lower rates of new case in the CA Blueprint more difficult since the true rate will need to be lower than the threshold to "test" at the threshold.
 
watfly said:
Webster's word of the year is "pandemic". California's word of the year should be "arbitrary".

My daughter's dance studio served with a cease and desist and closed. Strip clubs open.
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Good news in the bad news forum on my daughter's dance studio:

Last Friday the studio was served with its 2nd cease and desist order. On Saturday 3 sheriffs, allegedly hostile, show up to physically close the studio. The studio owner calls the media. The media contacts the County to get their side of the story. On Sunday the County contacts the studio and says there must have been a mistake and apologizes for the sheriffs showing up and the erroneous cease and desist orders. Yesterday the County met with the studio owner and now the studio is open for both outdoor and indoor classes based on the Day Camp protocols, including 14 person cohorts, with full approval of the County.

Congrats to the studio owner for holding firm and fighting the government overreach and strong arm tactics against small business.
 
watfly said:
Good news in the bad news forum on my daughter's dance studio:

Last Friday the studio was served with its 2nd cease and desist order. On Saturday 3 sheriffs, allegedly hostile, show up to physically close the studio. The studio owner calls the media. The media contacts the County to get their side of the story. On Sunday the County contacts the studio and says there must have been a mistake and apologizes for the sheriffs showing up and the erroneous cease and desist orders. Yesterday the County met with the studio owner and now the studio is open for both outdoor and indoor classes based on the Day Camp protocols, including 14 person cohorts, with full approval of the County.

Congrats to the studio owner for holding firm and fighting the government overreach and strong arm tactics against small business.
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Excellent news! I just hope they got it before they installed that, now unnecessary, pole.
 
N00B said:

Looks like we’re in for a bumpy market on the 8th.
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I'm hearing some chatter that the pediatric doses of the vaccine might delayed as well. While optimistically there was some notion that perhaps spring of this year, it's now looking like late summer-early fall before a full roll out can be accomplished. Maybe 16-18 year olds before then.

www.healthline.com

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Everything You Need to Know | Healthline

Live news & updates on the Coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak
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watfly said:
I did, but mine was different. It said "Buy toilet paper now". Actually its already too late and has been for a couple weeks.
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Wow, :p if they really wanted to throw back they should have just said "Buy bottled water". Remember that? The good old days?
 
More info on the side effects. Better than the reports that some initial participants were being knocked out for a week but still nasty. Enough of a nasty experience that some people won't want to do the second after the first, or might be scared off unless forced.

Here's where I'm at (though this could change as more information becomes available....I'm in one of the last groups so I have some time).....I'll likely get at least the first dose (I'd take the 2nd if forced by my employer). Pediatric doses are delayed at least until summer, but right now I wouldn't let them take it even if forced by the schools (continue with remote), though I'd likely revise my priors if a non-mRNA vaccine becomes available (the Aztrazenca vaccine is also coming in as less efficient from the reporting right now)

news.yahoo.com

Here are the common side effects you should expect if you get Pfizer's coronavirus shot

Pfizer's vaccine has no major safety concerns but can cause temporary side effects like pain at the injection site, fatigue, and headaches.
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Given Dr. Ghaly's comments today that a lot of the closures don't have to do with science but they just want people to stay home, this leads to an avenue of attack against the state orders.
 
Grace T. said:
though I'd likely revise my priors if a non-mRNA vaccine becomes available (the Aztrazenca vaccine is also coming in as less efficient from the reporting right now)
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Help me understand your thnking here -- if given the choice today -- you would get the AZ vaccine before the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine? Also, if you had to take either Pfizer or Moderna vaccine -- why only get the first dose?
 
Lionel Hutz said:
Help me understand your thnking here -- if given the choice today -- you would get the AZ vaccine before the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine? Also, if you had to take either Pfizer or Moderna vaccine -- why only get the first dose?
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a) there's some evidence for some people the first dose may provide partial protection (which for my age group is all I may need, particularly since we suspect I've had it).
b) from the news report, it's the second dose which is producing much more severe reactions As I said, for me I probably wouldn't put up much of a fight, if forced
c) the AZ is made with more traditional methods (which is why its the leading candidate for LDNs.....less storage and licensing issues). It is also only 70% effective from early reports. It is also producing fewer side effects from the early news reports.
d) but most importantly, the Pfizer/Moderna vaccines are made under the new mRNA techniques for which there haven't been (and cannot be) long term studies. Given my life is more than 1/2 over, don't really care about myself. But before I stick the kids, I'd want to be 100% sure, particularly since their risks and second effects from the virus are very minimal. By the time we get to them, we'll have at least a year, though, to evaluate.
 
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