I heard an "expert", Harvard I think, on the news a couple weeks ago who was not in favor of those who had Covid getting the vaccine due to potential adverse reactions. At least at this point until further research can be done.
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Yeah, issue with me though is it's more than a year plus and they (still!) don't know how long immunity carries. Coach's wife also had the same experience as did a friend who is an EMT.
The other strange thing they've been hearing (and it's definitely the case with me too) is that the symptoms pass quite suddenly at some point....one minute you are puking, the other minute you feel right as rain. Bit of an exaggeration but not too far off.
You are listening to too many right wing fringe sites if you think "survival rate" is used for measuring covid.
The term is used for things like cancer, where death is the normal outcome and survival is the exception.
Fair enough. The mortality rate is somewhere less than 2%. Fixed it.
The most recent thinking has the ifr around .15% The CDC had it at .2%, though recently revised its numbers upward ranging from .2% for Utah to 2% for Connecticut. This is also a problem where the micro. and macro analysis diverge. On a micro level, if you are under 65, the virus isn't that big of a deal and is equivalent to a bad flu....you are overwhelmingly likely to survive it so why worry. However, because it's so infectious, if you have to calculate that number against the world population, it's a huge number dead. Throw in that only certain people are actually really vulnerable to the thing and it was also going to be a bad result where people disagreed given that the risk is not spread around evenly.
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Yeah. A bit exaggerated. My whole family had COVID and recovered over Christmas and New Years 2020. No fever, no puking. Mostly fatigue and some head and body aches. Had the flu much worse than wimpy COVID symptoms. I worked the whole time. Miss IZ just refused to be sick. The kids slept and ate, binged netflix, Fortnight, and Air Bender, rinse and repeat. My son traveled to Hawaii after quarantine and a negative PCR 5 days prior to travel. Had an epic time with family and friends. Surfed, sailed, hiked all the non-tourist trails, zip lined Kahuku and watched the waves at Sunset Beach and Waimea while slurping some Matsumoto's Shave Ice. C'mon people. Live!!
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Compared to what number(s)?
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Don't be confused. Fauci is. Hook'em Horns!
Depends how you want to measure it. Compared to zero it's a huge number if you slice it against total world population (it's also BTW a lot of random 40 year olds cut down in the prime of their life, even though overwhelmingly 40 year olds will be just fine). You can also take it by years of life expectancy lost, in which case the number is much much smaller.
Ok...so you weren’t referring to Covid in this post, correct?
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I love Dad4's eloquent ignorance.
That’s da kine. I was talking about the shot. Was sick for 20 hours or so.
With actual covid I almost landed in the hospital day 10 when my oxygen level dropped and I was having trouble breathing but the doc gave me a bunch a predisone and I was out of trouble by the next day. I was sick about 30 days and then had so longer term health issues which only resolved around Christmas. My kid was sick 2 days but developed some breathing problems which lasted a few months...fine now.
Bruddah IZ
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Good to hear you and the kid are doing better. 88 year old friend of ours was touch and go for the first three days of COVID. He has an underlying ♡ condition but Prednisone sorted him out too.
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I've had both Pfizer shots, no reaction to the first and a little tired after the second, but I also had a really late night that day so that could equally have been the cause of my lethargy.
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246 Fully Vaccinated People in Michigan Test Positive for COVID-19; 3 Dead
Dr. Joneigh Khaldun, the state’s chief medical executive, said the shots “are some of the best vaccines that we have.”
“We’ve now got vaccines that are over 95 percent effective. And even if you do get COVID-19, and once you’ve had a vaccine, it is highly unlikely that you will be hospitalized or die,” she said.
We are born with immune systems that are over 98 percent more effective than any vaccine.
Dr. Joneigh Khaldun, the state’s chief medical executive, said the shots “are some of the best vaccines that we have.”
“We’ve now got vaccines that are over 95 percent effective. And even if you do get COVID-19, and once you’ve had a vaccine, it is highly unlikely that you will be hospitalized or die,” she said.
We are born with immune systems that are over 98 percent more effective than any vaccine.
You never were any good with percentages.
Bruddah IZ
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You’re still alive. What did I miss?
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Lol! I thought you were a case guy. But thanks for showing Statspola where I got the 98% from. MI.’s alleged non-vax deaths is 2% of the cases. I can’t wait for you to post that most of the non-vax deaths were pre-vax. Then we can circle back to the efficacy of lockdowns and find what survival rate?