Depends how you want to measure it. Compared to zero it's a huge number if you slice it against total world population (it's also BTW a lot of random 40 year olds cut down in the prime of their life, even though overwhelmingly 40 year olds will be just fine). You can also take it by years of life expectancy lost, in which case the number is much much smaller.
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Depends how you want to measure it. Compared to zero it's a huge number if you slice it against total world population (it's also BTW a lot of random 40 year olds cut down in the prime of their life, even though overwhelmingly 40 year olds will be just fine). You can also take it by years of life expectancy lost, in which case the number is much much smaller.
Ok...so you weren’t referring to Covid in this post, correct?
Bruddah IZ
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I love Dad4's eloquent ignorance.
That’s da kine. I was talking about the shot. Was sick for 20 hours or so.
With actual covid I almost landed in the hospital day 10 when my oxygen level dropped and I was having trouble breathing but the doc gave me a bunch a predisone and I was out of trouble by the next day. I was sick about 30 days and then had so longer term health issues which only resolved around Christmas. My kid was sick 2 days but developed some breathing problems which lasted a few months...fine now.
Bruddah IZ
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Good to hear you and the kid are doing better. 88 year old friend of ours was touch and go for the first three days of COVID. He has an underlying ♡ condition but Prednisone sorted him out too.
whatithink
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I've had both Pfizer shots, no reaction to the first and a little tired after the second, but I also had a really late night that day so that could equally have been the cause of my lethargy.
Bruddah IZ
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246 Fully Vaccinated People in Michigan Test Positive for COVID-19; 3 Dead
Dr. Joneigh Khaldun, the state’s chief medical executive, said the shots “are some of the best vaccines that we have.”
“We’ve now got vaccines that are over 95 percent effective. And even if you do get COVID-19, and once you’ve had a vaccine, it is highly unlikely that you will be hospitalized or die,” she said.
We are born with immune systems that are over 98 percent more effective than any vaccine.
Dr. Joneigh Khaldun, the state’s chief medical executive, said the shots “are some of the best vaccines that we have.”
“We’ve now got vaccines that are over 95 percent effective. And even if you do get COVID-19, and once you’ve had a vaccine, it is highly unlikely that you will be hospitalized or die,” she said.
We are born with immune systems that are over 98 percent more effective than any vaccine.
You never were any good with percentages.
Bruddah IZ
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You’re still alive. What did I miss?
Bruddah IZ
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Lol! I thought you were a case guy. But thanks for showing Statspola where I got the 98% from. MI.’s alleged non-vax deaths is 2% of the cases. I can’t wait for you to post that most of the non-vax deaths were pre-vax. Then we can circle back to the efficacy of lockdowns and find what survival rate?
This isn’t necessarily great news. 3 dead despite full vaccination isn’t going to exactly inspire confidence even though given how aggressively us counts deaths it was always likely.
lots of bad vaccine news out there. Europe says Johnson & Johnson might have same blood clot issue as az. Chinas vaccine effectiveness is low. South Africa variant might breakthrough Pfizer.
Don’t blame your 98% garbage number on me.
Watfly had the right way to count risk. CFR or IFR.
CFR of 2% is bad. Think of it as an airplane: 250 people got on an airplane. 5 of them. But that’s a 98% survival rate, so it’s all ok.
”survival rate” just means you don’t want to talk about the half a million Americans who died from covid.
Probably should be using IFR anyway.
He wants to talk about the human immune system, but apparently misses the fact that vaccines work by making the immune system better prepared for the targeted infection. Or maybe he is just rationalizing a fear of needles.
Glitterhater
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Was reading this just as I saw Grace's post:
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That's incredibly misleading. 250 get on a plane. 25 get sick. Odds are no one dies, but it depends on the age distribution. Hopefully 250 sick people aren't allowed on a plane.
Bruddah IZ
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I'm not. You posted the number of MI. deaths at 17k+ which I fact checked along with the MI. number of cases, 820K. The survival rate just is what it is
No, it's not okay. It just means that 5 mask didn't work. I knew you would circle back to the efficacy of mask and social distancing policies.
Lol! That was your deal from the get go Mr. P-value. Your hysteria was case driven, not death driven.
Why? How does that change your false narrative?
Bruddah IZ
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Dad4 is stepping all over his religious beliefs in the infallibility of mask and social distancing.
Bruddah IZ
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Coocoo
Hüsker Dü
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Businesses are setting policy based off government directions. People’s right to access those businesses or be employed at those businesses is solely dependent on complying with those directives. Masks, distancing and other measures are still in full force all around the world. Nothing partisan about it, just science.