Nice personal attack.
Wow just wow. You’re that guy that gives a dirty look when a small child or a baby cries on the plane. I’m speechless...right up there with the guys that give the breast feeding mother the dirty look. You don’t know why 2 year olds have to travel and who the f are you to judge someone else’s choices. You’re the guy that made the tournament exception remember so your hands are t exactly clean. Like you, so genuinely disappointed you are that guy.
The questions have always been:
There are good estimates for how much masks reduce transmission.
as usual you overestimate the benefit by assuming perfect use, not discounting for long term use and conflating the benefits of distancing. You underestimate the costs such as screaming 2 year olds and austistic kids, the enviro damage and the social damage
That's not even close to being true but you like to paint a picture with an aisle down the middle. It's likely that many more people wear the mask but find it rather silly. Rather than cause a scene , they remain civil and respectful of others, they wear a mask. The extremists farthest from the aisle are always the loudest (and usually the smallest groups)
I flew during Covid and likely wouldn't have flown if masks weren't mandatory and the middle seat wasn't open. This despite the fact I'm skeptical of mask mandates. On the other hand you have the mask addicts who swear by the science that masks are very effective but wouldn't even consider getting on a plane. Why is that? It's because it has nothing to do with science and everything to do fear. Fear corrupts rational thought.
So does power
Count me as a mask addict who won’t fly.
The nz study kicking posted recently should put to rest the idea that masks protect you on a plane. People got Ill despite spacing and mask usage. It’s probably because of the length of time on a flight. From the bus studies early on, the middle seat might have helped but 2 seats over is still close not to mention who is sitting behind you or across the aisle. It’s likely that while on a macro level these policies might reduce transmissions on a plane, on a micro level they don’t do much to protect you other than make you feel safe because it’s still up to chance...someone sick sits near you you have a good shot at getting covid. it’s been the same experience in factories, slaughterhouses and farms. The masks on a micro level seem to help most against short term exposures like at the grocery store or hair dresser but on a macro level that would have relatively little impact on overall numbers.
If you are wearing a cloth mask and the ill person is wearing a cloth mask and seated behind you, no way the risk is reduced 70% to you. Even the mannequin simulations under perfect short term mask wearing conditions didn’t find that. Macro and micro effects sometimes diverge...this is likely one of those situations.
Even if it is a 70% reduction, you may be measuring the difference between being infected ten times over versus being infected three times over.
Seriously, I read that as a joke and I kept waiting for @dad4 to let everyone know he was joking. Guess not.
I thought the same thing. I could say a lot about what he said but I'll just say it's very sad that people have that mentality.
I think the above is very telling.
Half joke, half serious.
Now run the numbers on the risk, through me, to other people.
We knew surface transmission wasn't an issue for quite some time.
And yet it has taken us till now till the CDC makes the announcement.
CDC tells businesses to 'end the hygiene theater'
'People can be infected with the virus that causes COVID-19 through contact with surfaces and objects, however... the risk by this route of transmission is actually low,' said CDC director Dr Walensky.www.dailymail.co.uk
