More ad hominem?
And the goalpost, as ever, is R<1.0. It never moved. You're just ignoring it.
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And the goalpost, as ever, is R<1.0. It never moved. You're just ignoring it.
You are moving it. You started with Australia then backed off to Germany plus then Germany. You moved it. You do it all the time.
And again, it's not an ad because it's not an argument. It's an observation about your operating system.
Which one “Kids” or “teenagers”? Not enough scientific evidence to show “Kids” can spread it. There may be more (although isolated) evidence that older, teenagers can.
The SK study concluded that age 0-9 are about 50% as effective at transmission.
The numbers speak for themselves, particularly as it relates to California and Florida where Florida is a more densely populated state (although some studies dispute whether population density impacts Covid) with a higher percentage of tourism. I'm not going to spend 100 pages going back in forth with you as you try rationalize why something isn't what it is because your controlled by your own fear based narrative. If you want to live in your theoretical math world, more power to you, but please let me proceed in living in the real world where we have to make decisions based on both objective and subjective inputs.
You mentioned Germany, then you came up with "Germany plus".
You can't change the topic, then accuse me if moving the goalpost.
I still believe that, for most of the US, masks + testing + outside + close indoor dining is enough to bring R below 1. R0 is only 3. We aren't talking smallpox here.
Areas like LA with very large substandard housing problems may need more. Or may not. It may be enough just to provide even more free testing in the low income areas. And you never even really tried to enforce the indoor gatherings rules.
Despite your denials, that is pretty much all ad-hominem.
An ad is an attempt to advance an argument through an attack on the speaker. I'm not trying to advance any argument. It wasn't made in reply to him or his argument. I'm making an observation, which is my thing.
Pitiful
You started with Australia and then moved off of it. Now you are at masks + testing + outside + close indoor dining. So we are in Los Angeles, which did all that but it didn't work. So now you move the goalpost again and say well that's because of the housing problem and lack of indoor gathering rule enforcement There's always another river to cross. But we've discussed before, how are you going to tell that people are gathering inside to celebrate thanksgiving unless you have police barricading the roads or neighbors informing on neighbors. Again, your authoritarian streak is showing and again, goalpost moved because now its masks + testing + outside + closed indoor dining + some kind of yet to be stated enforcement against indoor private gatherings.
"Oh Magoo, you've done it again!"
For purposes of instruction that's an ad in response to an ad.
Got it. As long as I say it to someone else, it doesn’t count as an ad-hominem.
Espola, Grace is a half-wit who can’t string two coherent thoughts together without resorting to insults.
Grace, did I do it correctly? It still sounds like a lame attack on the person instead of a logical discussion.
Since ad-homs are your strong point, you should probably just stick with them.
Bruddah IZ
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No they don't. They spread SARS-COv2. The COVID Disease may not even visually present itself. Thank goodness your innate immune system doesn't care about outward appearances. It attacks and solicits intel to deploy T and B cells from our adaptive immune system to squash the virus and reduce symptoms to boogers and a few sneezes. Maybe a couple of loogies vigorously launched down range. Hence the near 100% recovery rate.
1. You did it in reply to me so no you still didn't do it right. You could have responded to espola.
2. Notwithstanding 1. above, it's still not an ad. An ad is an attack on the speaker to advance an argument. It's different than an insult. It's different than an observation, which can also be insulting but not directed as an insult. We are now no longer arguing the initial point, but instead the merits, uses and limits of ads, so it's actually an illustrative point rather than being an ad.
3. Your insult/observation is a poor one because it is patently false on its face. My (much like espola is to espola) favorite topic is me. There are plenty of observations you could make about me which would actually be very interesting to discuss, such as my tendency towards skepticism or very strong libertarian streak which sometimes spills beyond the rational. Another one of my operating principles is a very high level of self-awareness, so when in the past people have criticized me for certain tendency I'm quick to own up with them. Another one of these tendencies is sadism because unlike watfly I'm willing to engage in these lengthy back and forths with you and espola that would drive others like kicker mad with the futility. See I love talking about myself...my favorite subject....only espola has me beat there.
4. My second favorite topic after myself is people. I like to know how people think. I care not only about the argument but why people make the argument (particularly when they take positions which in my opinion are not sustainable based on reality). It is as fascinating to me as the argument itself, and a source of equally valid discussion. I like that I've begun to construct a pretty good model of how you operate...not making a judgement, it just fascinates me.
Except he was calling your argument lame. You were calling him lame. Both ads, but only yours was ad hominem.
Magoo, Grace is the misbegotten daughter of a flea ridden sewer rat.
There. I squeezed multiple insults into one authoritarian sentence. But I replied to someone else so it’s all ok.
And why does Espola get the cool nick name? That’s not fair. From now on, I am Usagi Yojimbo.
-Yojimbo
Bruddah IZ
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: favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority, especially that of the government, at the expense of personal freedom
What did GT miss?
I have noticed that despite her education she can't help herself.
(I'm just making an objective observation here - no insult intended)