Bad News Thread

I have noticed that despite her education she can't help herself.

(I'm just making an objective observation here - no insult intended)

Errr...you know my rule. The insult was perfectly directed as you.

As to dad it's not. But he does have a mean authoritarian streak. As Bruddah points out, it's pretty self-evident. It's funny too he reacts badly to being called out on it. I mean he has an authoritarian streak....it's there for all to see. As a libertarian, I find that pretty chilling.
 
Of course you do. It's a cheap way to fend off a salient point.

Nah, it's just a way to show you how I really feel about you. The difference between our interactions and dad4 is I really respect dad4. He's a closet authoritarian, yes, but there's a lot to respect there too.
 
Except he was calling your argument lame. You were calling him lame. Both ads, but only yours was ad hominem.



Magoo, Grace is the misbegotten daughter of a flea ridden sewer rat.

There. I squeezed multiple insults into one authoritarian sentence. But I replied to someone else so it’s all ok.

And why does Espola get the cool nick name? That’s not fair. From now on, I am Usagi Yojimbo.

-Yojimbo

I have wondered about the nickname myself. Mr. Magoo is old, bald, fat, and nearsighted. I qualify on those points only as old, which makes Grace's attacks on me using that slur a classic example of what they call age-ism.
 
I have wondered about the nickname myself. Mr. Magoo is old, bald, fat, and nearsighted. I qualify on those points only as old, which makes Grace's attacks on me using that slur a classic example of what they call age-ism.

It's your tendency to get lost and then stubbornly deny that you are lost as the salient points whip past you. You are the character dude. If you were a little nicer of a person, it would actually be quite sad as I'm sure in your day you were quite fearsome.
 
Nah, it's just a way to show you how I really feel about you. The difference between our interactions and dad4 is I really respect dad4. He's a closet authoritarian, yes, but there's a lot to respect there too.
Then you also need a better nickname. "Grace Karen" is not worthy.

Given your love of rules, I'm thinking Ramona would work.

-Yojimbo
 
It's your tendency to get lost and then stubbornly deny that you are lost as the salient points whip past you. You are the character dude. If you were a little nicer of a person, it would actually be quite sad as I'm sure in your day you were quite fearsome.

More of the same.
 
Then you also need a better nickname. "Grace Karen" is not worthy.

Given your love of rules, I'm thinking Ramona would work.

-Yojimbo

Karen implies that I'd turn people in for violating the rules like my neighbors. I told the Dangy Bros next door I had no problem with their kegger. If anything, is there an anti-Karen? The problem with the term Karen is it's become somewhat a generic and sexist term for any woman who complains publicly about anything. The term originally was used to describe a woman (typically white, which I am not) to "tell" on a person of color (which I am) to the authorities. I know what a Yojimbo is but don't know the reference to Ramona. NOTF was closer with the c word, but you are too good for that. Keep trying. We'll settle on something Yoji.
 
Karen implies that I'd turn people in for violating the rules like my neighbors. I told the Dangy Bros next door I had no problem with their kegger. If anything, is there an anti-Karen? The problem with the term Karen is it's become somewhat a generic and sexist term for any woman who complains publicly about anything. The term originally was used to describe a woman (typically white, which I am not) to "tell" on a person of color (which I am) to the authorities. I know what a Yojimbo is but don't know the reference to Ramona. NOTF was closer with the c word, but you are too good for that. Keep trying. We'll settle on something Yoji.
Ramona is from the Beverly Clearly books. Standard little sister character who ignores rules and has to do everything her way.

You could also go with Miss Scrimmage if you like early Gordan Korman. That one is more ironic, since she's the authoritarian head of a girls finishing school.

-Yojimbo
 
Ramona is from the Beverly Clearly books. Standard little sister character who ignores rules and has to do everything her way.

You could also go with Miss Scrimmage if you like early Gordan Korman. That one is more ironic, since she's the authoritarian head of a girls finishing school.

-Yojimbo

Sadly, neither is in my bailiwick of reading materials, probably because a. I have boys, and b. they both hopped over their young adult reading phase (younger is on Hunger Games and starting Treasure Island, older is on Les Miserables).
 
First of all, a legitimate question: if masks were the obvious approach all along, why is Dr. Fauci speaking unmasked in this March 2020 picture, and surrounded by other unmasked people? Wasn't he concerned about their lives?

(Not to mention all the unmasked reporters in that room. Didn't he have a moral obligation to urge them to wear masks?)
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Or could masks simply have been politically convenient, a way for politicians, in the midst of a problem beyond their control, to appear to be "doing something" while having an easy scapegoat -- unmasked people -- if the numbers didn't go their way?

The UK, meanwhile, has just undergone its third lockdown. Cases have come way down. Naturally the politicians are congratulating themselves: the lockdown did it!

Except the United States was not on lockdown during that time, and yet the same trajectory is evident in both places. As Ian Miller (my guest for the forthcoming episode #1851 of the Tom Woods Show) puts it, the UK lockdown was so powerful it also brought the numbers down in the U.S.! It's like magic!
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(Source: World Health Organization)

And then finally: remember the claim that we'd be out of this with just four to eight weeks of masking? Yeah, about that:
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(Source: covid19 dot who dot int/region/amro/country/us)
 
First of all, a legitimate question: if masks were the obvious approach all along, why is Dr. Fauci speaking unmasked in this March 2020 picture, and surrounded by other unmasked people? Wasn't he concerned about their lives?

(Not to mention all the unmasked reporters in that room. Didn't he have a moral obligation to urge them to wear masks?)
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Or could masks simply have been politically convenient, a way for politicians, in the midst of a problem beyond their control, to appear to be "doing something" while having an easy scapegoat -- unmasked people -- if the numbers didn't go their way?

The UK, meanwhile, has just undergone its third lockdown. Cases have come way down. Naturally the politicians are congratulating themselves: the lockdown did it!

Except the United States was not on lockdown during that time, and yet the same trajectory is evident in both places. As Ian Miller (my guest for the forthcoming episode #1851 of the Tom Woods Show) puts it, the UK lockdown was so powerful it also brought the numbers down in the U.S.! It's like magic!
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(Source: World Health Organization)

And then finally: remember the claim that we'd be out of this with just four to eight weeks of masking? Yeah, about that:
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(Source: covid19 dot who dot int/region/amro/country/us)
Masks were not obvious.

We have spent decades thinking that the purpose of a mask is to protect the wearer.

It took time for Fauci and everyone else to begin to think of masks as controlling the virus at the source.

The rest of your post is a non-scientist with photoshop trying to do science. There are statistical tools for that kind of work. If you don't know how to use them, that's fine, but you can respect the opinions of those who do.
 
Sadly, neither is in my bailiwick of reading materials, probably because a. I have boys, and b. they both hopped over their young adult reading phase (younger is on Hunger Games and starting Treasure Island, older is on Les Miserables).
Grace, consider an animated superhero. I recommend WordGirl for you. It's certainly not as highbrow as Yojimbo, but much better than what @dad4 has been suggesting.
 
Masks were not obvious.

We have spent decades thinking that the purpose of a mask is to protect the wearer.

It took time for Fauci and everyone else to begin to think of masks as controlling the virus at the source.

The rest of your post is a non-scientist with photoshop trying to do science. There are statistical tools for that kind of work. If you don't know how to use them, that's fine, but you can respect the opinions of those who do.
Yes I've noticed your statistical religiosity and your selective Science. Please don't make excuses for Fauci's mask mea culpa.
 
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