5 biological men roster wins Australian women's soccer league title & also undefeated this season

crush said:
May I ask out of curiosity what made you think this was a Trans Massage Therapist? TMT is what my buddy calls they & them in the massage industry. It's big business these days. A lot of men like the look of a female but the body and strength like a mans.
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So how did I know it was a Trans MTF. Ahh well I based it on past experience and common sense. She did not look like a woman imo. Big hands, adam's apple. And she just had that male face structure that you can't quite hide. I could tell it was not a cis woman and I'm sure you would have agreed with me if you would have seen her as well. Now could she have been intersex? Very possible she could have been but I do not regret my decision of having my 14 year old daughter massaged by another woman.
 
Veritas said:
Now, when it comes to my wife? If she gets a massage from a man and enjoys it, I’ve got no problem with that. I’m not the jealous type Grace smh... I know her, I trust her, and her personality is rock solid. Plus, let’s face it, sometimes a good massage is just a good massage right?
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I love this right here brother. No jealousy is what makes for a lifelong partner. The girls call these Guru's Yoni Masters. These guys are amazing with the touch and are masters at their craft and know how to put a woman at ease. Women need a massage too, right? This reminds me of a true story Veritas. My wife's very good friend was married to a complete asshole who drank every night. Their sex life was all about him and she would submit like the good little slave that she was of 30 years to this guy. Yes, she stayed home and took care of the kids, but she could not please her abusive husband The guy blamed her because she didn't produce the natural honey when he came unto her, and he blamed her. Anyway, he told her to seek medical help with her issues and left her for another, younger lady. Anyway, she was a complete mess and thought she was done with sex and that she was the problem. She is very beautiful woman from Iran and is truly a Goddess. Turns out, it was her husband's fault for not romancing her and treating her like the Queen Bee to produce. He was a dick, and he got exactly what he put into the relationship, all dry. My wife's friend went to a Yoni Master bro and let me just say, she produced the best honey west of the Mississippi. She is single and 50 and is amazing.
 
pewpew said:
The bigger question that begs answering is why would you even care if you passed or not?
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Only he can answer if he is ethical. That's the entire point of ethics. The other thing is he acknowledged his bias which means he is more evolved than most (1/2 of all people refuse to acknowledge their biases....mine is against introverted controlling math teachers, for example). I can only observe that he isn't a hypocrite, he has sound reasoning, and he (like we all) has biases. Only he can answer if he is ok with it, but that's how we grow as human beings.
 
Grace T. said:
Dad 4 and I have never been in the same camp. We don’t like each other.
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And this is why you should still be sitting at the kiddie-table. "We don't like each other." I haven't seen @dad4 post that. Please cite your evidence counselor. We are all adults here despite the fact it seems there are times it doesn't show. But to say you don't like someone over an internet discussion, that's going to the bottom of the well for that one. That's a typical liberal response. Go ahead and tell us now that you're an independent and more middle-of-the-road. (Getting the popcorn as you say.)
 
Grace T. said:
Only he can answer if he is ethical. That's the entire point of ethics. The other thing is he acknowledged his bias which means he is more evolved than most (1/2 of all people refuse to acknowledge their biases....mine is against introverted controlling math teachers, for example). I can only observe that he isn't a hypocrite, he has sound reasoning, and he (like we all) has biases. Only he can answer if he is ok with it, but that's how we grow as human beings.
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And I still in shock that you didn't call him out as transphobic for his decision.
A math teacher is your only bias?! How about "People that don't agree with me for $500 Alex?"
 
Grace T. said:
I like the game…demand I produce your quote, I produce your quote, it accurately sets out what you said, you run away from it, and then like a magician you do some magic hand waiving to avoid it. You got served. It’s there, in black and white, you bigot. Good day sir.

Nah just speculating on why the gentleman is so angry and protests so much? If not f’d in the a, then what is it? Cause some self hatred going there.
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No, you didn't produce my quote because you quoted me as saying something completely different. Same thing you do to everyone else.

I realize YOU think you quoted me... but you didn't.
 
pewpew said:
And this is why you should still be sitting at the kiddie-table. "We don't like each other." I haven't seen @dad4 post that. Please cite your evidence counselor. We are all adults here despite the fact it seems there are times it doesn't show. But to say you don't like someone over an internet discussion, that's going to the bottom of the well for that one. That's a typical liberal response. Go ahead and tell us now that you're an independent and more middle-of-the-road. (Getting the popcorn as you say.)
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The Covid forum. It was insults all the way down and in that instance I was the conservative (Trump is right, Fauci is wrong) and he was the liberal (Biden is right, mask mandates and vaccines, force people to stay in their homes like Australia). There’s a long history there not just this one topic. It got personal and involved criticism of our respective kids.
 
pewpew said:
The bigger question that begs answering is why would you even care if you passed or not?
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Passing Grace’s test? 😄 That’s just me keeping the art of subtle charm alive... after all, every philosophical gauntlet deserves a grand finale, right? especially when you’ve got the other nodding in quiet agreement.
 
crush said:
The best massage I ever got was from a gay man named Troy. This was early 2000s. I was very happy with my massage because Troy knew where all my tight spots were. He never once hit on me or asked me if I wanted an upgrade. Dude was not cheap but by far the best ever.
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I want to walk away from this post, Crush. I don't think I can... but I want to.
 
pewpew said:
But to say you don't like someone over an internet discussion, that's going to the bottom of the well for that one. That's a typical liberal response.
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As opposed to "I didn't say that, please don't quote me", being the typical response of anyone arguing poorly in an internet discussion.
 
Grace T. said:
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Grace, I know what my quote is. It's in black and white. I'm not sure what disconnected wires prevent you from understanding this but let me try it again in simple terms: You say things other people don't say and then claim to be quoting them.

Nobody, me included, needs you to copy and paste shit like you're making some point. I challenged you to show where I stated what you claim I stated and you ran to the closet to see if your mothballs are still fresh.
 
pewpew said:
And I still in shock that you didn't call him out as transphobic for his decision.
A math teacher is your only bias?! How about "People that don't agree with me for $500 Alex?"
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Why would I do that? As I wrote my best friend doesn’t believe mtf should play in women’s sports (she’s a former d1 college vball player) but also on reflection acknowledged the issue is more complicated than she thought. That, unlike some of the little boys here, is classy. And veritas too has been open to examining his priors, which is classy. Even dad4 and watfly (much to my confusion) is to the left of me on drag shows. That’s classy. The issue is with the slobis of the world and those that nod along with him.

Veritas did admit to a subtle bias that he doesn’t like being touched by other men. But he’s aware of it, which is all we can ask.
 
Slobodan said:
Grace, I know what my quote is. It's in black and white. I'm not sure what disconnected wires prevent you from understanding this but let me try it again in simple terms: You say things other people don't say and then claim to be quoting them.

Nobody, me included, needs you to copy and paste shit like you're making some point. I challenged you to show where I stated what you claim I stated and you ran to the closet to see if your mothballs are still fresh.
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