5 biological men roster wins Australian women's soccer league title & also undefeated this season

dad4 said:
Lured away by a Romeo pimp is not the same as abducted from a bathroom at Target.

Where do you get the idea that most sex trafficking starts with a stranger abduction inside a building with security guards on duty and cameras at every exit?
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Unbelievable. What do you people drink in the mornings? I'm not talking about a child being abducted in the bathroom of Target. I'm taking about an obvious male using the women's bathroom, which shouldn't happen at all, but especially not when there's a female child alone in there.

And for you to sit here and say adolescent girls aren't kidnapped for sex trade, I can't believe YOU are pretending that's not an issue. I never wrote "most sex trafficking starts..." That's your made up bullshit. You're as bad as Grace. Do you people even bother to read what people write or do you just start crying and pounding the keyboard? And are you really going to sit there and tell me parking lot cameras are some kind of deterrent for kidnappers? How many times have assaults and robberies happened, ON CAMERA, where you can't REMOTELY see a face or license plate?

And tell me, again, about all the businesses that have security guards in them? Are you referring to Paul Blart?
 
Grace T. said:
You did, you dolt, if they didn't do what you wanted them to. You also said you'd "target" a MTF youth playing soccer with the girls if you decided not to forfeit.


Pot, kettle.
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Here's a suggestion for you. Instead of sweating by the keyboard, waiting for me to type something, make yourself an appointment with a therapist.
 
Slobodan said:
Here's a suggestion for you. Instead of sweating by the keyboard, waiting for me to type something, make yourself an appointment with a therapist.
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Don't you have your notifications set? In any case, I'm not the one with anger management issues.

Slobodan said:
Unbelievable. What do you people drink in the mornings? I'm not talking about a child being abducted in the bathroom of Target. I'm taking about an obvious male using the women's bathroom, which shouldn't happen at all, but especially not when there's a female child alone in there.

And for you to sit here and say adolescent girls aren't kidnapped for sex trade, I can't believe YOU are pretending that's not an issue. I never wrote "most sex trafficking starts..." That's your made up bullshit. You're as bad as Grace. Do you people even bother to read what people write or do you just start crying and pounding the keyboard? And are you really going to sit there and tell me parking lot cameras are some kind of deterrent for kidnappers? How many times have assaults and robberies happened, ON CAMERA, where you can't REMOTELY see a face or license plate?

And tell me, again, about all the businesses that have security guards in them? Are you referring to Paul Blart?
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Don't you take your unattended small child in the restroom with you? I certainly did with my son into the women's room when he was very small, couldn't hold it, and there wasn't a single bathroom around (which BTW the recent Newsom bill encourages for this reason). Should that have been illegal? What about my 12 year old going into the men's room alone....we screening for gay men too (because there are a lot more of them than there are trans people)? What about the MTFs being harassed and assaulted in the boy's room, or the FTM in the girl's room as laid out in the study I showed. Don't care about them even if it's a small number? I wrote my kid got into a fist fight with his roommates because he was on an international and wanted to get to bed at midnight for an 8am call and they wanted to play Playstation (and they had been fighting over who's fault a goal was earlier in the tournie)....if my son were to put on a dress and declare himself trans do I think he'd be safe going into the boys restroom with those players?
 
Grace T. said:
He's been arguing on your side you dolt. You just took it a bridge too far for him by threatening to beat up random "trannies". Your own ally, to his credit, couldn't stomach your bigotry.
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Nailed it.

To add insult to injury, he's busy proving my position is naive. I want to be sure we welcome MTF athletes onto boys teams. He's there patrolling the welcome wagon with a scowl and a baseball bat.
 
Karlton Athletic said:
It wasn't a race card.... just pointing out that saying we've always had just two bathroom and adding gender neutral options is a burden is nonsense. Back before we totally solved racism, people were happy to burden themselves with multiple bathroom "options."

Listen, from the way all the Charles Bronson types are talking here, these "Jack Blacks in a dress" pedophiles are hiding behind every bush ready to pounce and this a real problem. In fact, I believe you said it should be our #1 issue this election, even above immigrants eating our pets.

So, given that, has anyone here actually physically removed a transvestite from a women's bathroom, forcibly, and if so, what happened? Walk us through it. Has this thing you're all adamant would happen ever happened?
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The OP is about men playing with and against girls because they say they a girl. I believe some of this is mental illness and most likely an asshole(s) that are cheating to win and make money amd a few looking to rape a little girl in the BATHROOM, Dad. The fathers on here don't want men (Wolf, Predator Pedo in sheep's clothing) taking advantage of this new way of freedom of expression and freedom to pull out your pistol in the girl's bathroom. If you are a Trans and have cutoff your weapon by chopping it off, then we can discuss a fair way for you to enter my daughter's restroom. Until then, it's illegal to go into a girls bathroom if you have a penis.
 
Grace T. said:
Don't you have your notifications set? In any case, I'm not the one with anger management issues.


Don't you take your unattended small child in the restroom with you? I certainly did with my son into the women's room when he was very small, couldn't hold it, and there wasn't a single bathroom around (which BTW the recent Newsom bill encourages for this reason). Should that have been illegal? What about my 12 year old going into the men's room alone....we screening for gay men too (because there are a lot more of them than there are trans people)? What about the MTFs being harassed and assaulted in the boy's room, or the FTM in the girl's room as laid out in the study I showed. Don't care about them even if it's a small number? I wrote my kid got into a fist fight with his roommates because he was on an international and wanted to get to bed at midnight for an 8am call and they wanted to play Playstation (and they had been fighting over who's fault a goal was earlier in the tournie)....if my son were to put on a dress and declare himself trans do I think he'd be safe going into the boys restroom with those players?
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No... I don't sit here foaming at the mouth because you or someone else might write something I don't like. I don't put words into other people's mouths like you and your buddy here, either.

Mother's take their boys into the women's bathroom when they're little. Fathers take their daughter in the men's room when they're little. That's how it works. Some fathers, like me, would allow my daughter to go into the women's restroom alone, when they were ready, and stood outside to make sure there were no issues. If this guy walks into the bathroom after she does, he's immediately coming out one way or the other. Period.

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dad4 said:
Nailed it.

To add insult to injury, he's busy proving my position is naive. I want to be sure we welcome MTF athletes onto boys teams. He's there patrolling the welcome wagon with a scowl and a baseball bat.
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You aren't naive... you're ignorant or dismissive or both. Not once did I say MTF can't play on boy's teams. They don't belong on girl's teams. You see the difference? But hey... "DAD"... if you're good with a man following your little girl into the women's restroom, hopefully there's a real dad close by to protect her.
 
Slobodan said:
No... I don't sit here foaming at the mouth because you or someone else might write something I don't like. I don't put words into other people's mouths like you and your buddy here, either.

Mother's take their boys into the women's bathroom when they're little. Fathers take their daughter in the men's room when they're little. That's how it works. Some fathers, like me, would allow my daughter to go into the women's restroom alone, when they were ready, and stood outside to make sure there were no issues. If this guy walks into the bathroom after she does, he's immediately coming out one way or the other. Period.

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100%. If looks could kill. If that man follows my daughter into the bathroon he is coming out and fast. I
 
Slobodan said:
"we" are the people who vote for policy and 4-years of experience we have.
"you" is the clapping, laughing and dancing crowd that vote with your butthurt.
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It's funny that you believe that. It's sad that you think it is accurate. And it perfectly expresses where you (and they) are coming from.
 
dad4 said:
Nailed it.

To add insult to injury, he's busy proving my position is naive. I want to be sure we welcome MTF athletes onto boys teams. He's there patrolling the welcome wagon with a scowl and a baseball bat.
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Guess I owe you a bit of an apology there. I didn't know your underlying assumption was that MTF athletes would be welcomed on the boys team. I think that's fundamentally the difference in our positions. I'm not so naive to think so. There have been documented cases (in the study I posted) where nonbinaries and trans individuals have been harassed in their respective biological bathroom. My kid got into a fistfight when he was called "a sissy" by his roommates at an international for wanting to go to bed at a decent hour before his trial...if he were to be wearing a dress in the men's room I don't see those teammates being welcoming I see black and hispanic kids being called the n word at the fields. And then there are people like Slobi using slurs, threatening violence and threatening to target trans kids, so forgive me, but no I don't think that will go well. It won't work unless you are prepared to restrict free speech by silencing people like Slobi through punishments for what they say (and I'm not).
 
Slobodan said:
No... I don't sit here foaming at the mouth because you or someone else might write something I don't like. I don't put words into other people's mouths like you and your buddy here, either.

Mother's take their boys into the women's bathroom when they're little. Fathers take their daughter in the men's room when they're little. That's how it works. Some fathers, like me, would allow my daughter to go into the women's restroom alone, when they were ready, and stood outside to make sure there were no issues. If this guy walks into the bathroom after she does, he's immediately coming out one way or the other. Period.

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What about if you have a boy age 8 who tests out going to the bathroom by himself and some guy in butt chaps, no shirt and a cowboy hat comes in after him? Same reaction? What if this guy in your photo goes into the men's room and your 8 year is old is in there by himself?

Again, the better reaction is you leave, not them (same with the game, bench your player and forfeit, taking the consequences as necessary). And the simple societal solution is one which the Newsom bill put in a more positive direction. Single stall ballrooms should be gender neutral. Businesses, venues, government buildings, parks, schools and transportation hubs should offer more single stall options (both for the sake of the trans parents, and parents worried about small children)...new builds should require them (same as we did with handicapped stalls). If you have those options, a penis/no penis rule would be ideal, but you don't get to decide to violate existing law by going all vigilante on the trans person.
 
Grace T. said:
Guess I owe you a bit of an apology there. I didn't know your underlying assumption was that MTF athletes would be welcomed on the boys team. I think that's fundamentally the difference in our positions. I'm not so naive to think so. There have been documented cases (in the study I posted) where nonbinaries and trans individuals have been harassed in their respective biological bathroom. My kid got into a fistfight when he was called "a sissy" by his roommates at an international for wanting to go to bed at a decent hour before his trial...if he were to be wearing a dress in the men's room I don't see those teammates being welcoming I see black and hispanic kids being called the n word at the fields. And then there are people like Slobi using slurs, threatening violence and threatening to target trans kids, so forgive me, but no I don't think that will go well. It won't work unless you are prepared to restrict free speech by silencing people like Slobi through punishments for what they say (and I'm not).
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Oh no! Dissention in the ranks! Are you mad his mental illness doesn't compare to yours?
 
Grace T. said:
What about if you have a boy age 8 who tests out going to the bathroom by himself and some guy in butt chaps, no shirt and a cowboy hat comes in after him? Same reaction? What if this guy in your photo goes into the men's room and your 8 year is old is in there by himself?

Again, the better reaction is you leave, not them (same with the game, bench your player and forfeit, taking the consequences as necessary). And the simple societal solution is one which the Newsom bill put in a more positive direction. Single stall ballrooms should be gender neutral. Businesses, venues, government buildings, parks, schools and transportation hubs should offer more single stall options (both for the sake of the trans parents, and parents worried about small children)...new builds should require them (same as we did with handicapped stalls). If you have those options, a penis/no penis rule would be ideal, but you don't get to decide to violate existing law by going all vigilante on the trans person.
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Depends. Does my son dig music from The Village People?
 
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