I think I opened up Pandora’s Box with this thread... But hey, once you're in, there's no turning backI want to walk away from this post, Crush. I don't think I can... but I want to.
I think I opened up Pandora’s Box with this thread... But hey, once you're in, there's no turning backI want to walk away from this post, Crush. I don't think I can... but I want to.
Grace, I know what my quote is. It's in black and white. I'm not sure what disconnected wires prevent you from understanding this but let me try it again in simple terms: You say things other people don't say and then claim to be quoting them.
I brought your granny into it? When did that happen?Oh he brought my granny into it which I lost to Covid 4 years ago.
Why would I do that? As I wrote my best friend doesn’t believe mtf should play in women’s sports (she’s a former d1 college vball player) but also on reflection acknowledged the issue is more complicated than she thought. That, unlike some of the little boys here, is classy. And veritas too has been open to examining his priors, which is classy. Even dad4 and watfly (much to my confusion) is to the left of me on drag shows. That’s classy. The issue is with the slobis of the world and those that nod along with him.And I still in shock that you didn't call him out as transphobic for his decision.
A math teacher is your only bias?! How about "People that don't agree with me for $500 Alex?"
Grace, I know what my quote is. It's in black and white. I'm not sure what disconnected wires prevent you from understanding this but let me try it again in simple terms: You say things other people don't say and then claim to be quoting them.
Nobody, me included, needs you to copy and paste shit like you're making some point. I challenged you to show where I stated what you claim I stated and you ran to the closet to see if your mothballs are still fresh.
Kind of like... "we've been to the border. Well, not really. I haven't been to Europe, either. What's your point?"As opposed to "I didn't say that, please don't quote me", being the typical response of anyone arguing poorly in an internet discussion.
Did I say that? Didn't think so.As opposed to "I didn't say that, please don't quote me", being the typical response of anyone arguing poorly in an internet discussion.
899I brought your granny into it? When did that happen?
I like to keep things real Slobo. I did not pursue a gay massage man. Troy was recommended from a dear friend. Troy helps to pen point each knot in the tight places. The stress to have to make $15K+ a month to pay for youth sports, a wife and happiness for everyone took a toll on my lower back. All these years later, I have no back pain because of TROYI want to walk away from this post, Crush. I don't think I can... but I want to.
What part of this is wrong. You say the person”will become a target” if you decide not to forfeit. You say is the person “walks in the same bathroom” as you daughter ( you did not say do anything wrong or qualify what you meant by “man” beyond your ongoing slur). And you declared violence “willingly or by the throat” and that you’d “take your chances with the jury”. Moreover this is now your ninth chance to clarify what you meant if you meant something different and yet you still don’t clarify.
Buddy, I support you making a grown man decision for yourself.I like to keep things real Slobo. I did not pursue a gay massage man. Troy was recommended from a dear friend. Troy helps to pen point each knot in the tight places. The stress to have to make $15K+ a month to pay for youth sports, a wife and happiness for everyone took a toll on my lower back. All these years later, I have no back pain because of TROY
I was talking to you. Not your deceased grandmother.
I guess I take a different approach. I take people's comments at face value without extrapolating some ulterior meaning or applying to other issues not in evidence. Except if someone orders their steak well done. Then I make all sorts of assumptions about the persons character.It's what I do...it's what I trained in....it's how Socrates advocated that we get to truth, or veritas (isn't that cute)....it's how you test ethical and legal principles....it's how philosophy and ethics gets done....and it's how we grow as human beings, by questioning ourselves.
You accused me of directly hurting a minor boy playing in a girl's league and beating a tranny to death in the bathroom.What part of this is wrong. You say the person”will become a target” if you decide not to forfeit. You say is the person “walks in the same bathroom” as you daughter ( you did not say do anything wrong or qualify what you meant by “man” beyond your ongoing slur). And you declared violence “willingly or by the throat” and that you’d “take your chances with the jury”. Moreover this is now your ninth chance to clarify what you meant if you meant something different and yet you still don’t clarify.
That fair. Buts it’s different when ethical issues are being considered because there are a variety of different ways to look at the same problem. It’s the only way to get to “Veritas” or truth of the matter. Because otherwise we are just blinded by our biases, which we all have.I guess I take a different approach. I take people's comments at face value without extrapolating some ulterior meaning or applying to other issues not in evidence. Except if someone orders their steak well done. Then I make all sorts of assumptions about the persons character.
Hmm...It's what I do...it's what I trained in....it's how Socrates advocated that we get to truth, or veritas (isn't that cute)....it's how you test ethical and legal principles....it's how philosophy and ethics gets done....and it's how we grow as human beings, by questioning ourselves.
Now you are putting words into my mouth. I specifically said you couldn’t hurt the minor because you wouldn’t be allowed on the field…you’d have to instruct your daughter and teammates to do the targeting if you refused to forfeit. I never said “to death”. I accused you of using violence which “by the throat” and “don’t care what the jury says” certainly is. “By the throat” is a legal battery. I then invited you to clarify what you meant. This is your tenth opportunity which is what you’ve refused repeatedly to take.You accused me of directly hurting a minor boy playing in a girl's league and beating a tranny to death in the bathroom.
Not really the same thing, is it? Nevermind... you misquote everybody. You either can't, or won't, recognize your disability.
This is a very fair and thoughtful criticism of Socrates himself, but not necessarily his method. Jesus engaged in violence at turning over the temple, played favorites and it was Paul who brought the message to the gentiles. Muhammad engaged in what many consider questionable behavior. Ghadijii was a stubborn fool at times, was a bully and also engaged in questionable behavior. All fair critiques. Thinkers be flawed.Hmm...
Adversarialism, eh? Alright then, to start I want to point out that philosophers have been pushing this macho schtick from the beginning. Socrates is indeed their hero; if only they could do what he does, whether it be reducing their debating partners to silence or, even better, extracting succinct concessions to their intellectual superiority: “Yes, Socrates,” “You are quite right, Socrates,” “That is indeed true, Socrates,” “I dare say, Socrates,” and so on…
Socrates was an asshole. Imagine how frustrating it must have been to try and explore ideas with this elenchic-obsessed wanker who never, ever listens. Don’t believe them when they tell you that he raised his questions in good faith! In fact, not once in all of Plato’s so-called dialogues does Socrates say something like “you’re right, I was mistaken” or “I never thought of it that way before” or “thank you, I’ve really learned something here.” One translation of the ancient Greek “dia-” is “between,” which tells us that genuine dialogue requires at least two interlocutors (since only that way can there be a between) each of whom is open to being changed by what they hear. Otherwise, you get only unidirectional monologue. “It wasn’t at all like conversation,” thought Alice, “as he never said anything to her.”
How Socratic Was Socrates? - Daily Nous
Adversarialism, eh? Alright then, to start I want to point out that philosophers have been pushing this macho schtick from the beginning. Socrates is indeed their hero; if only they could do what he does, whether it be reducing their debating partners to silence or, even better, extracting...dailynous.com
Nevermind. I beyond done with this attention seeking behavior from you. It's all there for anyone who cares about it now... meaning "Grace T."Now you are putting words into my mouth. I specifically said you couldn’t hurt the minor because you wouldn’t be allowed on the field…you’d have to instruct your daughter and teammates to do the targeting if you refused to forfeit. I never said “to death”. I accused you of using violence which “by the throat” and “don’t care what the jury says” certainly is. “By the throat” is a legal battery. I then invited you to clarify what you meant. This is your tenth opportunity which is what you’ve refused repeatedly to take.
Since I’m not a granny what other granny is there? The only other granny around was my mom…you talking about her?I was talking to you. Not your deceased grandmother.
Are you really that delusional?