Ok bigot.
5 biological men roster wins Australian women's soccer league title & also undefeated this season
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Ok narcissist.
not really a narcissist. My entire history is actually putting the needs of others way in front of my own. I sometimes live an almost nun like existence as a result.
You can accuse me of being an arrogant know it all. I am guilty there as charged. Problem for that is I have the chops and the track record to actually back it up.
Yeah, you really are. A narcissist and a liar.
So running from the 'granny' accusation? Typical.
But I’m not the one that’s the bigot….
Whos the granny here if it’s not me? What granny then if you arent talking about my granny? My mom????
Where, in the past 50 pages, do you ever place a value on the needs of female athletes?
Your track record speaks for itself here.
Some guys like being touched by another mans so much, that they have to fight off that struggle and desire. Many men who get all upset and homophobe are actually closet gay men. Veritas only said it makes him uncomfortable and I get it and respect that. Troy came highly recommended, and like I said earlier, I was not seeking a gay misuse. Veritas is the one who misses out on the magic hands of Troy because he will not let another man touch him. I respect Veritas. I also know a Chiropractor that does the back thing but also adds a 15-minute deep Thai massage. Veritas, would you let Dr. Jeff the Chiropractor massage you for 15 minutes after a nice adjustment?
all over the place. Remember my position is not full inclusion for mtf and I think that ftms are really underserved by the current rules. Conflicting rights need to be balanced. Sometimes the balance favors the ts. Sometimes the balance favors the cis. What YOU don’t like is my answer isn’t always “f the ts”.
And during Covid you’ll recall I was the one calling for schools to be open so my kids could get educated and live a normal life while I exposed myself to several risks including running around getting everything my parents needed while they are locked tight. You were only concerned with yourself and your health and safety. Your entire generation threw kids under the bus and the working class into danger so you could lead protected lives.
You ARE the granny here. You're also the same one that accused me of trashing your deceased grandmother. Didn't happen. Another made up lie.
Then you went on to say, such and such post of mine, on such and such page of this thread, shows I'm a racist. Didn't happen. Another made up lie.
Keeping men out of the women's restroom, when a female child is in it alone, makes me morally right. Bigot? Whatever. I wear that proudly.
Keeping MTF athletes out of female's sports, because they AREN'T female, makes me morally right. Go play co-ed. I wear that proudly, too.
When someone says they want to set women's rights back a good 20-years, you should receive the first call.
Here is a fine example of the concern you show for the needs of female athletes:
In other words, "If you don't let XY people play as girls, then we might as well eliminate women's sports entirely."
Got it. In order to demonstrate your deep empathy for female athletes, you proposed getting rid of all women's sports.
( It couldn't possibly have been a lame attempt to create a truly awful proposal, in order to make your position look better by comparison. That would be dishonest. )
In other words, "If you don't let XY people play as girls, then we might as well eliminate women's sports entirely."
Got it. In order to demonstrate your deep empathy for female athletes, you proposed getting rid of all women's sports.
( It couldn't possibly have been a lame attempt to create a truly awful proposal, in order to make your position look better by comparison. That would be dishonest. )
A bit thick, huh? It was a hypothetical to get at reasoning for why it's important for women to have a separate sports category. Having a little trouble distinguishing between a hypothetical and an actual real world scenario? Hmmm.....I thought someone like you would have had to have done well on the SAT to get to teach math, but maybe I'm mistaken about that??? Baffling....I expect some low IQ stuff from Slobi, I don't generally expect it from you.Here is a fine example of the concern you show for the needs of female athletes:
In other words, "If you don't let XY people play as girls, then we might as well eliminate women's sports entirely."
Got it. In order to demonstrate your deep empathy for female athletes, you proposed getting rid of all women's sports.
( It couldn't possibly have been a lame attempt to create a truly awful proposal, in order to make your position look better by comparison. That would be dishonest. )
What was that reason? Because there is value is having women have a place where they can participate in sports without having the men dominate.
Then it points out your hypocrisy, because as I pointed out, you ONLY care about the women having a level playing field. You don't care about the level playing field for the trans person, despite your having said participation is important in sports. And if you answer is "f'em they deserve it", and that makes you feel uncomfortable, then don't complain to me.
That's on you, not me.
O.k. let's parse this apart.
1. I'm not a grandmother, so again, who were you referring to? Pew maintained when I said "go cry to your mama" I was referring to your actual mother, instead of saying "you are a whiney little baby instead of a real man". Unless you know something about my kids (in which case I thought the entire thing was we weren't bringing kids into this) that I don't, when did I become the granny? It must refer to someone else, hence my grandmother or my mother, right? Otherwise who's the granny? I don't get it.
2. I never said you were racist. I said you were fixated on black colleges (which you said exclude whites, which they don't) and then that african americans can use the n word but it's bad for white people. I asked the question why's that? If you're the one connecting the dots, you're doing that to yourself. So now you are lying.
3. As to your post 373, you never used the word "alone". You said "same public bathroom my daughter is in". You never qualified the age of your daughter, despite being invited to. You never qualified what you meant by "man". So those are all revisionist lies. What's worse is this now the 11th time you've been asked to qualify your statements, such as with "and that person is doing something illegal in there" that would justify your violence in self defense of others. Lie.
4. Proudly? Again I challenged you if you are so proud to unmask yourself. Let's hear it and see what society thinks about it. So another lie.
5. So you make this big deal about me finding your quote, and I finally do and it shows exactly what I said it did, with "target" and violence ("by the throat/jury") and you are trying to gaslight me now into that it doesn't say what I think it says, despite that you've been given 11 TIMES the chance to clarify your statement. Now you are lying not only to me, but to yourself and reality itself.
6. So for someone that is so incensed at my supposed lying, you seem to be engaging in quite a bit of hypocrisy here.
7. That would, by logical extension, make you not only a bigot, but also a liar and a hypocrite. Good times.
Let's not. I think everyone is pretty sick of reading you whining about me.
Because you can't defend it. That leaves you a bigot, a liar and a hypocrite. Nice!
Shall we talk about why this topic gets you so hot and bothered? Lashing out ain't a normal response including throwing around the slurs starting on page 1. Anything to say for yourself? Especially, since I say on page 1, on other topics, even the ones your feel passionately about, you tend to be quite thoughtful? I gave you possibilities, but in fairness I don't really know what your deal is....care to share?
You remind me of the guy that picks a fight, gets knocked the fuck out, wakes up 5 minutes later, puts his dukes up and wonders where everyone went.
You remind me that guy that picks that fight, beclowns himself, yet is so self delusional he thinks he is winning. You’re Charlie sheen. “Winning”.
A hypothetical. Yes. Also known as "a lame attempt to create a truly awful proposal, in order to make your own position look better by comparison."
Real moderates don't need to invent radical positions to make themselves look reasonable.
Dumb.
Again it's been entire way legal problems, philosophical problems, ethical problems and case studies in other fields (such as business and economics) are approached. The entire point is that participation is a valid value which is the entire bedrock of why we have women's sports. You just mad because it shows you up for a hypocrite because you don't extend the same value to the trans people. It makes you look like a bigot (which I don't think you are) or a fool (I don't think you are actually a fool, just that you didn't think things out and wound up painted into a corner) that didn't think things through and doesn't want to climb down, which is why you are mad. That (and not making my position look moderate, which BTW it already is considering the other side just wants to jam both FTM and MTF in the women's category) is the entire point of the exercise.
Dumb. You disappoint me. You're smarter than some of the rocks around here, which I can only assume means you know better and are just arguing in bad faith because that point is D-U-M-B.
As long Dr. Jeff does not jump on my back I might be open to it since he is a Doc right? The fact he’s a Doc just puts me at ease.
Grace, while participation is crucial, the creation of women’s sports wasn’t just about including women it was about providing a space where they could compete on a level playing field. It’s about ensuring that women can excel in sports without being at a biological disadvantage, which would make meaningful competition impossible.
In business and economics, we value inclusion, but we also recognize that rules exist to ensure fair competition. It’s the same with women’s sports, participation matters, but so does the fairness of that participation. Creating opportunities for women to compete with each other, without inherent physical disadvantages, is essential to maintaining the integrity of women’s sports. Without that balance, the entire foundation starts to crack.
At the highest level of competition, it’s about excellence and performance, not just participation. If the sole purpose were participation, then, logically, we'd have to include everyone, from novice to expert, which would undermine the very nature of elite competition. The point of elite sports is to identify and celebrate the best of the best athletes who have honed their skills, pushed their limits, and earned their place through merit within their level of biological playing field.
Participation is important at the grassroots and developmental levels, but at the top, it’s about rewarding those who have mastered their craft. That’s why we have categories, divisions, and qualifiers to ensure that competition remains fair and meaningful, and to maintain the integrity of the sport.