How’s the 2023-24 season going?

Interesting take on a team sport. Not sure the number of individuals making the USA camp means the quality of that team is better. Historically Slammers doesn’t send many girls to the USA camps. Doing some homework, Surf has routinely sent more girls. The HB Koge player you called out was identified at Blues. Don’t think she is the best player on HBK but I haven’t seen them play as much. Surf has great teams, no argument, but number of girls getting scholarships and winning national championships seems to be a better indicator.

From what I have seen at Legends, this is going to be a team to be reckoned with. They are making changes at all levels to build a club that wins at the national level. They are putting the olders in quality D1 programs. Moving to ECNL has opened my eyes a bit. I still think the top GA clubs can compete with the top ECNL clubs, but it is clear GA drops off significantly after the top 5.
What's going on at Legends? Are you referring to the 10"s being a team to be reckoned with or the club as a whole? I've just heard the 10's are getting a nice upgrade of 5-6 new girls that all went to USA ID camps not counting the few that went from the current team. They are probably the most improved team since last season. I don't think they even made playoffs last season either and they are looking very promising to go this season.
 
What's going on at Legends? Are you referring to the 10"s being a team to be reckoned with or the club as a whole? I've just heard the 10's are getting a nice upgrade of 5-6 new girls that all went to USA ID camps not counting the few that went from the current team. They are probably the most improved team since last season. I don't think they even made playoffs last season either and they are looking very promising to go this season.
From where (clubs) are those girls coming?
 
What's going on at Legends? Are you referring to the 10"s being a team to be reckoned with or the club as a whole? I've just heard the 10's are getting a nice upgrade of 5-6 new girls that all went to USA ID camps not counting the few that went from the current team. They are probably the most improved team since last season. I don't think they even made playoffs last season either and they are looking very promising to go this season.
Lot's of rumor mill going on about movement for next season. 5 or 6 is insane number, if the grapevine source is true. I told my wife's sister dd that she better be ready for the call up, if that even happens now. I've heard that this 2010 Legends team will most likely be #1 in the country and any youngster looking for a play up challenge best be ready because you will only get once chance. Also, I got PM from a Nocal dad that said Hoge is clearly #1 and will beat MLVA this year in finals. He said Surf is too soft but plays pretty soccer. New ratings based on this info I just got.

#1 Koge
#2 MLVA
#3 Surf

Surf lost head-to-head with Koge and scoreboard is scoreboard. Pretty soccer doesn't equal championship soccer. You must find a little bit of good luck as will.
 
My prediction for this season is that one of the 2 best soccer playing style teams in the nation Surf or MVLA take it. My hope is the girls have matured, are now bigger stronger and that Koge’s physical advantage that they had last year will not be so dominant. If you limit the corner kicks and set play opportunities near the box for Koge, they will struggle as a soccer team. They are a soccer team with big & fast athletes but not many great soccer players except for their 1 mid that went to the USA national ID. She’s a complete soccer player.
Haven’t posted in a while mainly because this season has been rough.

We’ve been butt-whooped by all three teams multiple times 😝 and they do it in different ways. Surf and MVLA have a similar gradual possession style with surf tending to start outside with their speedy wings and work in, while MVLA often works in to out and they have a solid two way player in their 6. Koge’s defense is punishing with a solid goalie, and they look to trigger a fast break offense.

All styles can win and winning probably takes a little luck. One thing these team and player comparison forums never talk about is defense. Defense won the game in the Champions League today, by the way.
 
Haven’t posted in a while mainly because this season has been rough.

We’ve been butt-whooped by all three teams multiple times 😝 and they do it in different ways. Surf and MVLA have a similar gradual possession style with surf tending to start outside with their speedy wings and work in, while MVLA often works in to out and they have a solid two way player in their 6. Koge’s defense is punishing with a solid goalie, and they look to trigger a fast break offense.

All styles can win and winning probably takes a little luck. One thing these team and player comparison forums never talk about is defense. Defense won the game in the Champions League today, by the way.
There's two ways to win ;-)

- You score more than them
- They score less than you

Defense can win just as many games as Offense.
 
Players that are complete players are not generally affected by high school. They seem to have a focused path and a very strong mental determination to rise to the top without any distractions from high school drama. Many times they are home schooled. Most girls are done growing by 14/15 and if they are good enough they will play varsity.
 
Players that are complete players are not generally affected by high school. They seem to have a focused path and a very strong mental determination to rise to the top without any distractions from high school drama. Many times they are home schooled. Most girls are done growing by 14/15 and if they are good enough they will play varsity.
Nature doesn't exclude any players, complete or not. We've seen plenty of fantastic 15 year olds hit puberty late because they were home schooled to do soccer, and then slow down dramatically because of puberty. The speed goes down and the turning ability slows down because when nature comes for you, it doesn't care how complete of a player you are.

Those kids that don't know how to handle high school drama will struggle to handle work place/college (pro team) drama.

Then you have the non home schooled kids that eventually catch up to those that are home schooled. There's a max to everything. It's like learning to read, early readers might learn how to do it first and focus on it to be the fastest but eventually over time, kids will catch up as they continue to learn how to read unless there's a reading genius. Same thing as soccer.
 
National team ID is very different from producing a top team.

Of the 35 players in last year's national championship game, I think only two made it to the national team ID camp this year.
If your player is not favored by the coach or DOC between the ages of U13-U15 that US ID Camp email will never come. Did anyone actually take the time so see which players were selected from each club? Many questionable selections but then again just look at how many questionable coaches are given ECNL positions. If a coach or a DOC doesn't have experience evaluating elite NT talent they shouldn't be sending US soccer player recommendations. You can try and fool yourself morning noon and night but the only way anyone's coming to look at your kid between the ages of 13 through 15 years old is with a coaches or DOC's email and that typically starts with a parent so far up that coaches ass it hurts.

As others have posted lots of change coming with this group headed into high school.
 
If your player is not favored by the coach or DOC between the ages of U13-U15 that US ID Camp email will never come. Did anyone actually take the time so see which players were selected from each club? Many questionable selections but then again just look at how many questionable coaches are given ECNL positions. If a coach or a DOC doesn't have experience evaluating elite NT talent they shouldn't be sending US soccer player recommendations. You can try and fool yourself morning noon and night but the only way anyone's coming to look at your kid between the ages of 13 through 15 years old is with a coaches or DOC's email and that typically starts with a parent so far up that coaches ass it hurts.

As others have posted lots of change coming with this group headed into high school.
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100s of players get called into the ID centers. it's not a big deal. hits and misses for sure.

the actual camp rosters usually make more sense to me.

seems like the YNT scouts like attacking midfielders. and those players are often put at OB, CB, fwd, etc. on the YNTs. and they like goalies that can play with their feet. so all those goalies punting it over and over down the field are at a disadvantage.
 
100s of players get called into the ID centers. it's not a big deal. hits and misses for sure.

the actual camp rosters usually make more sense to me.

seems like the YNT scouts like attacking midfielders. and those players are often put at OB, CB, fwd, etc. on the YNTs. and they like goalies that can play with their feet. so all those goalies punting it over and over down the field are at a disadvantage.
This is a great point. I thinks it a bit of a window dressing and also a bit politics of selection. Interesting how the ID camps bring in so many players, gotta keep everyone happy, right? Club Docs and their top players. But credit where credit's due, the final rosters are always stacked with the right talent. They might cast a wide net, but they definitely know how to reel in the right talent for the YNTs when it matters.
 
will legends add these players for playoffs? will the big surprise player join the 09s for playoffs?

I’m wondering the same. But I haven’t heard anything from any of my sources regarding a surprise player joining the 09’s ? Can you fill us in what you’ve heard?
 
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