Fair criticism. I made the changes above.
Vaccine
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Wow, I went out of town for a bit, locked out of my account, and now finally allowed to create a new account (I probably shouldn't have). ---And this is still going on???
Masks? culture, personal decisions? Funny you say all of these things. While traveling, even the "cultures" that wear masks are wearing them wrong.
Masks? really...kids never wear them correctly, they are not desiged for kids, and kids have to eat. I mean, aren't these things we figured out 2 years ago?
Your school(s) are wearing masks...still? and you step outside to talk. Do you stand beyond 6 feet? talk via cell phone or megaphone? I bet every single person in your school is hyper vaxxed. People in San Jose stand further away from people in San Diego? Yikes. but have to admire that you notice the difference in distance between people with such accuracy.
I mean..really..
and still completley dodged the core of the argument:
A 0.04% population death rate is still quite important.
I choose to disregard your “only 0.04%” death rate argument because it is not something you would be willing to apply in any other context. What other 0.04% population death rate do you consider to be insignificant?
There is no point...we have totally different risk tolerances. You think hair beads are dangerous. You seem to believe in absolute zero in your risk assessments. I do not, I wouldn't leave my house if I did.
If we were to design policies around a .04% risk of death factor, we couldn't do anything. It wouldn't even be safe to even stay home. Life comes with risk. However, the risk factor isn't the only element to consider and that's where you have your biggest blind spot. You also have to consider the costs of the other negative consequences. Anti-lock brakes aren't a relevant comparison because anti-lock brakes have no material (and likely no) negative consequences other than additional $. Whereas masks do. The biggest in my mind is the false sense of security they provide (or as advertised to provide), which encourages Covid positive individuals to go out in public because "mask works". The development consequences of interrupted child development is also concerning (not to mention the difference in death rate between mask wearing children and not masking wearing children is many times less than 0.04%).
You come from a perspective that Covid should be our biggest concern in terms of these health policies. While others may understand that the risk from the negative consequences of some of these policies pose a much greater risk. We shouldn't all have to indulge the lowest common denominator when it comes to acceptance of risk. I haven't seen anything in the Constitution that guaranties a risk free life.
Who on earth encourages covid positive individuals to go out in public?
I have never heard anyone, anywhere, make that argument. Every message I have heard, right or left, is that people should isolate while sick.
If you think this opinion is common, can you point to anyone who holds it?
Desert Hound
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So he gives you a bunch of reasons how irrelevant .04 is and you decide to question "who on earth encourages covid positive individuals to go out in public?" Really...is that because you realize his other points are valid, so you try to focus on the sarcastic?
I do give you credit though , you do not give up easily...its a slow burn for you lol
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uhhhh. when it seemed to serve somone's (or a particular group's) best interest. The bastion and repository of science - the cdc..
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I would compare it to a nervous twitch.
I see nothing in your link which claims masks make it generally acceptable to break quarantine.
At most, people reading that article will think that election day doesn't count.
Want to try again? Who, if anyone, is arguing that masks make it ok to skip quarantine?
His other points are trash. A death rate of .04% works out to 1200 deaths in SD county. Most people do not find that "irrelevant."
He is concentrating on the 0.04% difference without acknowledging that 0.16% is 33% worse than 0.12%.
Like I've said a number of times I could really give a rat's ass about mask requirements for adults.
Under your and Espola's "logic" Santa Clara has had a horrific results when it comes to the death of children from Covid. Santa Clara has 100% more deaths than San Diego and Santa Clara has over a 50% smaller population. So maybe the kids weren't wearing the masks as well as you thought in your county.
And for the 100th time you can't measure success of health policies based solely on Covid outcomes.
I feel lucky I caught you in a generous mood.
Have a great night, watfly.
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Why doesn't election day count? The CDC says it's ok to skip quarantine to vote. See how silly all of this is.
Follows the same logic that masks work until they stop working..like taking them off to eat and drink on an airplane. Or walking through a restaurant with a mask on just to sit down and take your mask off.
"Can voters who test positive for the coronavirus still come to the polls on Tuesday?
Yes, says the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which on Sunday published new guidelines noting that sick voters still have the right to cast a ballot.
“Voters have the right to vote, regardless of whether they are sick or in quarantine,” the CDC says on their website. Under federal law, turning someone away from a polling site is considered illegal and an act of voter intimidation."
Good Morning Natives, I got up early because I only have three more days to try and help you guys. I spoke from my heart and I will finish from the heart. My Doctor pal from Stanford told me some crazy stories about some Docs that are bought and sold soul for money. Gee, go figure.........
