Vaccine

His other points are trash. A death rate of .04% works out to 1200 deaths in SD county. Most people do not find that "irrelevant."

so what number is acceptable? It can’t be 0 because that will never happen, people die…so I am curious what you think would be a relevant number
 
"To the idiot saying I am setting a terrible example [for refusing to get the vaccine]—I had the virus already! I already have antibodies. Why would I take the vaccine again?

Over there at Pfizer, it’s really clear in the contract, "We don’t take responsibility for any side effects." If you turn into a crocodile, it’s your problem!"


Guess who said this? Hint, he is a President of a country.......lol






 
I've made the distinction between masks versus mandates myself, but ultimately masks don't wear themselves. For that reason, the only truly relevant factor is the efficacy of mandates. Masks don't work as a public health measure ...human nature...

I largely agree with what you say, although I think defining what "work" means, and for whom, is key. Mask wearing and mandate efficacy are linked variables. For the people that do these studies on increasingly ginormous data sets (and they don't do them so we can steal a sentence or two and beat each other upside the head with them) that's what they want to do. Defining "work" within the models is key to doing that. For most of these large studies that have been flagged on this thread of late, as I understand it (and it's not my thing; you pop the hood on the underlying stats on these huge data sets and its like looking under the hood of a Ford Mach E) the assumption has been that "work" must mean time of mandate = contemporaenous hysteresis in cases, hospitilizations, whatever. But it turns out depending on how you cast your net in some cases that's true, and so mandates work. In other's, as per what you say, not so much. What subset within a larger culture is being measured? Or just everybody within an aribitrary group? That appear to matter for "mandates working". Not too surprising really. People being people. And if there is a perceived crisis people band together with those they trust. With emergent C-viruses we'll be in the same place again soon enough and we'll find out if any of this academic appreciation of granularity matters to decision makers.

Here's an anedoctal example. My kid, who just graduated HS, was an IB student. The thing about IB exams is if you miss them, well you miss them and that sucks. The IB kids, who are a small subset of the larger high school, got together and agreed to keep wearing NPI. Like their own mini-mandate. Prom came and after that there was a sizable omicron outbreak (probably vanilla flavor from the sound of it) at the school. With the exception of 1 kid, all the IB kids were able to take their exams. Coincidence? Could be. Cause/effect. Could be. Get a dataset in the millions and drill down into groupings and statistically you can start saying things.
 
Peter Narvarro just got indicted for Jan 6th I guess. I said 6 years ago to Espola and his Elks that arresting, spying, cheating and stealing from one side is wrong and if the left pulls that stunt, it's not going to go well. They did and boy did they. I said each side will arrest each other then and that is the beginning of a war. A war that never really ended and was only on pause since 1946. Depending on the judge and the jury of your peers or a nice pardon from your favorite President, justice is not served in this country. 98% of all cases get settled and no justice, just pay to play the lawyers who get a very nice cut for dealing with all the shit and we get no justice.

Elks?
 
I just put Elks because it came from my brain and I remember avatars trying to warn Espola and his crew that arresting and spying on your opponent is not right. That was for years ago. They arrested and handcuffed Peter at the airport. Cheating, stealing and then arresting those you disagree with is for losers and that is what you and so many at the forum have become, losers.
 
Hey guys, I have today and tomorrow and then I will not post on the forum. Only PMs. We are now entering into a new phase with these losers and cheaters. I want thank everyone who has provided me with much needed information in my pursuit of the TRUTH. We have known liars and cheaters right here at the forum. Lie to little girls, cheat and lie and then steal dreams from girls whose fathers don't want to play the pay to play game because pay to play is only good for the one paying and the Doc. Pay more in order to get dd to the next of the pay to play soccer. Yuk and yikes and no thank you. So many sharks and just bad dudes in the pool. Clean the pool, get rid of bad Docs and coaches and please and I mean please get some good woman coaches to take over the girls sport. It really is controlled by some Dicks!!!
 
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We have endured together some rough shit over the last four years. It's been an honor to serve with all of you in this war. The Liberal Liars have cheated, spied, scammed, divided, ruined, stolen and sold their souls and country out for the almighty dollar :( Some will die for dollar because they worship dollar over the TRUTH. I leave you with some advice. I will be posting a lot of memes until my last post tomorrow at 5:55pm. Again, if anyone has gold information regarding you know what, please PM me. The last two weeks some awesome dads have stepped forward with serious information. We need a healthy sport for girls and soccer is perfect.

1. If Bill Gates is involved, avoid it
2. If joe say's it's true, it's false
3. If the CDC, FDA and Dad4 say it's safe, it's dangerous
4. If the media or Espola agree, it's a lie
 
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I found an old picture from the old days of Grandpa Espola jumping over his Sunshine at the beach back in the day. I will not miss you guys and I will lurk to laugh and giggle. I love you both and 100% forgive you. I'm glad the three of us have a great sense of humor and I glad you both can take it hard on the chin.

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The old guard and system is breaking a part because I told you all it would years ago. You all laughed at me, some ignored me, some shunned me and some even threaten me.....lol. Hear more advice if you can read and feel at the same time. Get ready for a very long, hot, hungry, angry, full of rage and dangerous Summer, all brought to you buy The Lying Libs and their Cheating Chumps WHO hated Trump so much, they spied, cheated and stole and then pinned it on the one they spied, cheated and stole from. Wow, that is some crazy ass shit!!! The rest of us are all stuck in the middle and the middle is WHO doen't like and WHO would like them gone so the WHO and the Globalist ((same as Elitist)) can rule the world. What a movie. It's come down to a war, Patriots vs the Globalist. Get the popcorn out and be safe everyone but pay attention. This new phase is where your choice will matter a lot and who you will spend the rest of your time with and maybe your next chance at birth and to do better. Many of you at this time will not stay and play for free because you think pay to play is good. Trust me, stay and play for free. This place will rock!!!
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Thoughts on this? We all know people by now that fit into one of these three phases. The news from my own clans of pals is not good I'm sad to say.

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Nope. Your memory is short.

When it came to BLM the medical community said it was ok to go out and protest and hang out in large crowds. That was the summer of 2020.

We had 100s of posts on here about how logically that didnt make sense. On one hand it was OK to go out in large crowds. On the other hand the same people encouraging that...wanted biz and schools closed.
There is something seriously wrong with our society when we made Covid exceptions for adults to protest and riot, and not for educating our children. That's f'ed up.
 
There is something seriously wrong with our society when we made Covid exceptions for adults to protest and riot, and not for educating our children. That's f'ed up.
That is tru and just wait until summer comes. Bro, these losers had a chance to give up but they decided to let the ship sink because of their ego, pride and vanity.
 
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