Vaccine

cheer4kids said:
It is hard to believe the amount of time people have been spending on this thread. Has one person's mind been changed?
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I got a few PMs thanking me for helping them see things they didn't see before. I know one dad that stopped after the second jab and he said the meme's I used and articles I posted about whatt their putting in the shot helped him say, "no more jabs." Another dad told me I inspired them for sticking for my freedom and willing to lose it all to protect my blood in my veins. Ain't no one putting nothing in my blodd cheer 4 kids. Never!!! I have very good friend that is a Dr. and knows way more then anyone on here. He and my wife told me to quit eating meat and no booze a few years ago. I did that right before the Rona came to our shores. We need to help the kids is why I come on here. Now their trying to jab and boost 6 month our babies. Life the last two years has been hard and so much disinformation and cheating going on. This Vaccine Thread has helped me understand the jab better. OC is 71.1% fully jabbed btw.
 
Desert Hound said:
And on the other front...Ukraine.

Some observations.

- It was assumed the Russians would roll through Ukraine in a matter of days.

They of course have not.

- Russian equipment is not as good as was thought. In large part the country relies on a few major contractors all of which are corrupt. In the US we have a variety of manufacturers responsible for producing planes. In Russia basically all planes are produced by one company. There is no competition, oversight, etc.

The failure rate of missiles in Ukraine has been shockingly high.

Etc etc.

That said they have enough munitions to blanket bomb/level cities.

- Russian logistics are terrible
- Russian on the ground leadership is terrible. They still suffer from the fact they do not use NCO's in the fashion that the West does. By that it means allowing NCO's to make on the ground decisions as events unfold. Essentially their decision making is not nimble.
- Planning...which involves leadership has been poor. They way they have moved armor around has left them very vulnerable to Ukrainian defenses. The Russians have not used infantry properly to help protect armor.
- Maybe most surprising is how with all their planes, Russia still does not posses air superiority over the Ukrainians.
- The bulk of their forces are made up of poorly trained conscripts. They serve 12 months. That is enough to get some basic training in, but not enough to match the professionalism of lets say US troops who have longer terms/more training. The lack of training is very apparent in terms of how badly the Russians have done in Ukraine.

All in all it has been rather eye opening in terms of how badly they have performed since the invasion.
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Another interesting point is that the Ukraine reset their military after 2014 (legacy soviet) and brought in foreign (read Nato) personnel to train & reorg. They now operate much closer to how a Nato force does from a leadership and command (including delegated) perspective. Everything has aligned for them, including the Russian incompetence.
 
"In a preliminary analysis of lab tests collected during the Omicron wave, Moderna says its vaccine efficacy against infection was 51% among children younger than 2 and 37% among children from 2 to 5 years old. These efficacy estimates are similar to vaccine efficacy estimates in adults against Omicron after two doses," the company said in a statement."

Hmm, I don't recall it being it being publicized that the efficacy for adults is only in the 37%-51% range (or less).

Just FYI, only 28% of those 5-11 have had at least one vaccine shot. I suspected that there wouldn't be significant demand for child vaccinations. That is clearly the case.
 
watfly said:
"In a preliminary analysis of lab tests collected during the Omicron wave, Moderna says its vaccine efficacy against infection was 51% among children younger than 2 and 37% among children from 2 to 5 years old. These efficacy estimates are similar to vaccine efficacy estimates in adults against Omicron after two doses," the company said in a statement."

Hmm, I don't recall it being it being publicized that the efficacy for adults is only in the 37%-51% range (or less).

Just FYI, only 28% of those 5-11 have had at least one vaccine shot. I suspected that there wouldn't be significant demand for child vaccinations. That is clearly the case.
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Unless one is completely uninformed, there is no need to rush and get kids vaxxed. They have essentially zero risk.

The data is out there...and yet we see parents concerned about when they can get kids vaxxed.
 
Desert Hound said:
Unless one is completely uninformed, there is no need to rush and get kids vaxxed. They have essentially zero risk.

The data is out there...and yet we see parents concerned about when they can get kids vaxxed.
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It's quite laughable what's happening with science these days. The FDA used to have standards. I guess they are now using twitter for their non-evidence based medicine reasoning...
 
Desert Hound said:
Unless one is completely uninformed, there is no need to rush and get kids vaxxed. They have essentially zero risk.

The data is out there...and yet we see parents concerned about when they can get kids vaxxed.
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I think those parents are just the vocal minority. If 5-11 is only 28% partially vaccinated, I don't see 0-5 getting much past 10%.

My teen kids weren't opposed to vaccination and my daughter was required to for her community service work. She had concerning side effects. None of us are interested in boosters and my daughter's prospective college is not requiring boosters.
 
what-happened said:
It's quite laughable what's happening with science these days. The FDA used to have standards. I guess they are now using twitter for their non-evidence based medicine reasoning...
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We all see what's happening. I think most fair minded elk and sheep are like me, in shock with how deep this actually goes down the rabbit holes and how evil some folks are. Talk about a trip...lol! Human trafficking is the # profit center on earth. They slice up the human pie and use fellow humans to their gain. I have a pink dot on my DL to let ER know they can have my organs. I am happy to give them after I'm brain dead. However, these humans are born to only be donors. I wonder what that's like? It's a very small but powerful group that had Dominion over us and they used humans as a ritual sacrifice. Not no more. The Big Guy is locked up and it's NOT JB. Let them stab each other in the back first and then the good guys will come in to bring law & order. We as a collective need to do something about it or the mighty rich few will force us to be their slaves again. They buy, bribe and blackmail people with sex and money and you can;t compete with that unless the game changes.

 
Desert Hound said:
Unless one is completely uninformed, there is no need to rush and get kids vaxxed. They have essentially zero risk.

The data is out there...and yet we see parents concerned about when they can get kids vaxxed.
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There is a need for rushing to get kids vaxxed - it's called the parents that rushed to get their kids vaxxed
 
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