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The parents had nowhere to go or work, what were they doing?I agree, but the problem was greatly exacerbated by school closures and online learning.
The parents had nowhere to go or work, what were they doing?I agree, but the problem was greatly exacerbated by school closures and online learning.
It goes back to redlining, so yes it stems from institutional, deeply imbedded racism.My personal opinion is that the education gap is a class issue that has elements of race yet it's being treated entirely as a race issue. Now let's stop for a second and ask ourselves, if we can't define what a woman is, do we really want to frame the education gap in terms of race which is orders of magnitude more complicated to determine on an individual basis than determining sex? It's not as if we can't identify those who are not achieving - we don't need their DNA. We can see the neighborhoods/schools that are struggling. Is it really because the Honors classes are not representative of the population?
Redlining is the root cause of poor academic achievement?It goes back to redlining, so yes it stems from institutional, deeply imbedded racism.
He was reading from his talking points and didn’t bother to actually do any critical thinking. Never mind that everything I was addressing had to do with overcoming the gap - not how the gap originated. Shame on me for expecting anything else from him. Fool me once …Redlining is the root cause of poor academic achievement?
There was redlining against Asian families, too. By your argument, Chinatown schools should be awful. But the schools and students in those areas tend to do just fine.
You can tie yourself in knots trying to see everything as the inevitable result of past wrongs. All it will achieve is making people mad at each other.
It's better to just see each other as people and try to help each other.
This is 100% where we need to be.It's better to just see each other as people and try to help each other.
The next step in the evolution of blame for the education gap in America appears to be that America is a racist culture. Course qualifications and pre-requisites are racist and need to be removed.
It goes back to redlining, so yes it stems from institutional, deeply imbedded racism.
Yes, I should have qualified "it's being treated entirely as a race issue." There are influential people who are treating it as a race issue - certainly not everyone - but it's supported by quotes in the media that have not been labeled as unsubstantiated or misinformation (a few below).I don't think this is accurate.
For quite some time, differences in educational opportunities and school performance has been tied to class/socio-economic standing. Even the article that you're responding to focused on class/socio-economic standing in San Diego school districts.
And as a practical matter, it's obvious that a school in a wealthy area will have far more resources to devote to GATE programs in K-5 due to family donations - regardless of the racial breakdown in the schools.
Everything you wrote makes perfect sense -- why distract from that by creating a straw man argument that people are treating it entirely as a race issue?
These are cultural arguments related to race but also to socioeconomic status. Plenty of people get stuck in the mud (some just stay there willfully), others keep getting pushed back in.Yes, I should have qualified "it's being treated entirely as a race issue." There are influential people who are treating it as a race issue - certainly not everyone - but it's supported by quotes in the media that have not been labeled as unsubstantiated or misinformation (a few below).
My point was to go through the evolution of the mainstream ideas that are out to explain why we have this gap and what we have done to close the gap. No doubt, we have many people who span the spectrum of ideas as to what needs to be done and why it needs to be done.
Testing is racist: From the NEA
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The Racist Beginnings of Standardized Testing | NEA
From grade school to college, students of color have suffered from the effects of biased testing.www.nea.org
"We still think there’s something wrong with the kids rather than recognizing their something wrong with the tests," Ibram X. Kendi of the Antiracist Research & Policy Center at Boston University and author of How to be an Antiracist said in October 2020. "Standardized tests have become the most effective racist weapon ever devised to objectively degrade Black and Brown minds and legally exclude their bodies from prestigious schools."
Homeschooling is racist:
Gifted classes are racist:
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Schools debate: Gifted and talented, or racist and elitist?
Public school programs for the gifted and talented are getting increased scrutiny as critics denounce them as modern-day segregation and push for broader access or outright eliminationabcnews.go.com
These are not solely ”cultural arguments”. When people are persuaded by Kendi’s claims, they take real world actions.These are cultural arguments related to race but also to socioeconomic status. Plenty of people get stuck in the mud (some just stay there willfully), others keep getting pushed back in.
We may well become the low wage, uneducated workforce for the world . . . on the bright side manufacturing here will increase!These are not solely ”cultural arguments”. When people are persuaded by Kendi’s claims, they take real world actions.
The local community college here recently eliminated their placement tests. This will result in more kids dropping out of STEM because they were put in the wrong class.
Why did we do it? Because the administration didn’t like the scores on the placement tests. Apparently, it is racist to ask a kid to balance an equation or compute the atomic mass of a molecule. So, instead of teaching the kid, we eliminate the test.
These are not solely ”cultural arguments”. When people are persuaded by Kendi’s claims, they take real world actions.
The local community college here recently eliminated their placement tests. This will result in more kids dropping out of STEM because they were put in the wrong class.
Why did we do it? Because the administration didn’t like the scores on the placement tests. Apparently, it is racist to ask a kid to balance an equation or compute the atomic mass of a molecule. So, instead of teaching the kid, we eliminate the test.
We agree on that.Part of the problem is the test can also reflect how teachers are teaching. So bad test scores can make it appears teachers aren't teaching, so lets not test, then we can't blame teachers or students for doing poorly because we won't know how they are actually doing.
But I don't even blame teachers, some years ago parents starting placing poor test scores and grades solely on teachers and instead of holding their own kid accountable, they blame it on the education. Here's the news flash...parents are the best teachers, if they don't hold kids accountable chances are the kid will not achieve....but more of the problem is there are way way too many lazy parents and they want someone else to help raise their kid...sad
11M? Chump change.Hunter the Ukraine energy expert, made over $11 Million in 5 years from 2013-2018 and was spending $200,000 a month on stuff. Wowza and holy moly all in one!!! The other Senators also had their Sons of Bitches become energy experts like Hunter so they too could gained access to $$$$$$ and help their families get even richer so they can have real wealth and live like Kings on earth. The rest of us will be Serfs of them. Crazy ass times we all find ourselves in. Monkeypox or some pox is coming this summer. They say, "it's not over" and whatever they say, we have to obey to be able to buy and sell in this rigged system we were all born into. I warned all of you three years ago that our financial system is rigged and the #1 profit center of this rigged system is Human Trafficking and wars plus _______________________________!((I won't write it, you can guess)). The families at the very very top, are wealthy bloodlines from the beginning of time that control all of us. They want us to be full of fear, full of hate, full of division, full of war and full of shit, all so they could make off like bandits from our hate and wars. They supply the weapons and the officiating and we send our kids to fight. What a world!!
While their is potential for corruption with the McConnell situation, comparing the two is apples and oranges. Her company is actually providing a service. Hunter provides no such thing other than influence.11M? Chump change.
Take a look at what Mitch McConnell’s wife makes from China. Her family aren’t special consultants. They own a Chinese shipping company. So, any time CCP needs to funnel a few hundred million to Chao/McConnell, they just sign a contact with Foremost Group.
$11 Million was what one family member got paid Dad. That is not Chump Change for a Son of a Senator. Mitch is a Senator, so he will make more than Hunter's Chump change, because he was only a Senator son. Name me another Senator Son to take in $11,000,000 in 5 years and had a $200,000 a month allowance to spend on whatever he wanted. Let's compare Apples to Apples.11M? Chump change.
Take a look at what Mitch McConnell’s wife makes from China. Her family aren’t special consultants. They own a Chinese shipping company. So, any time CCP needs to funnel a few hundred million to Chao/McConnell, they just sign a contact with Foremost Group.
What does Chao‘s family make on Chinese state contracts? Hint: it’s not measured in millions.$11 Million was what one family member got paid Dad. That is not Chump Change for a Son of a Senator. Mitch is a Senator, so he will make more than Hunter's Chump change, because he was only a Senator son. Name me another Senator Son to take in $11,000,000 in 5 years and had a $200,000 a month allowance to spend on whatever he wanted. Let's compare Apples to Apples.