Pretty sure even if you get vaccinated you can still affect others...but its vaccinated people like you that think because they are vaccinated they can't spread it
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Pretty sure even if you get vaccinated you can still affect others...but its vaccinated people like you that think because they are vaccinated they can't spread it
How so?
Amen bro. She must be going out of State?
Disregard my Q bro
Hüsker Dü
DA
The nutter routine is blatantly obvious.
It isn’t that I believe vaccines do no more than keep me out of the hospital. There is plenty to be said for reducing transmission by shortening the period over which a person is contagious.
But, that is a STEM discussion. And, as you mentioned, you not going to hold up your end of a discussion on a STEM topic. You are neither capable of understanding the material, nor willing to defer to those who do. I didn’t have the option of discussing the impact of an X% reduction in duration of infectiousness.
So I picked a point which is unarguable and easy to understand: people don’t like being hospitalized, NHS doesn’t like paying for unnecessary hospital visits, and the vaccine is reducing hospitalization numbers. It’s a baby argument, but it was enough.
If you want to be taken out of the baby arguments bucket, then drop the pretense that you understand everything better than those “experts”.
Over the course of this thread, from my viewpoint Grace has moved from well-informed but with an obvious agenda to just plain irrelevant.
You mean deflect and insult. Spot on!
So she finished where you reside?
I think for most of us that baby argument isn't compelling enough for people to lose their jobs or livelihoods over it.
Is this obvious as well?
If you get vaccinated you can still affect others!!!!
So how can getting vaccinated be different, its not! it is your body...she is talking out of both sides.
If vaccination eliminated the virus like MMR or any of the other vaccinations that are actually eliminate the ability to catch or spread the virus, you could have an argument, but when you can still get and spread the Rona, you have nothing!
@dad4 @GoldenGate @Hüsker Dü
Your own people are realizing the government is only about themselves!! But go ahead keep on saying what a great job the yare doing haha
Your own people are realizing the government is only about themselves!! But go ahead keep on saying what a great job the yare doing haha
The Met Gala and the hubris of wealth
On the first Monday in May each year a spectacle of excess is staged in the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York City – the Met Gala. The red carpet rolls out for the billionaires and their hangers-on, the politicians and parasites, and the celebrities competing in what is known as the Oscars...
www.wsws.org
That's one of the better articles I've read in awhile.
The saddest part is Eric Adams. I was cautiously optimistic he would be better than DeBlasio (which is a super low bar) but he is just more of the same (I think it was DH who warned me). While his city burns, he's attending the Gridiron Club dinner in DC, Dave Chappelle's show in LA and of course the $35,000 a ticket Met Gala. Maybe it doesn't materially impact his ability to run NYC, but it certainly is bad optics and clearly reflects what his priorities are.
Desert Hound
DA
As time goes on...we are seeing the disastrous consequences of lockdowns, school closures, nonsense rules, etc.
This article comments on the NY Times article regarding the damage caused to student education by school closures.
"Were many of these problems avoidable? The evidence suggests that they were. Extended school closures appear to have done much more harm than good, and many school administrators probably could have recognized as much by the fall of 2020."
"On average, students who attended in-person school for nearly all of 2020-21 lost about 20 percent worth of a typical school year’s math learning during the study’s two-year window…
But students who stayed home for most of 2020-21 fared much worse. On average, they lost the equivalent of about 50 percent of a typical school year’s math learning during the study’s two-year window…"
@Dad was a cheerleader for school closures.
And yet by May or June 2020 we already KNEW that there was no risk to kids or college students. The data clearly showed that. And yet places like CA closed most if not all universities to in person learning. A substantial percentage of elementary and high schools were closed.
And we knew they were fine and would be fine.
My kids like most lost their spring semester in 2020. Fortunately they were back in school full time in the fall. Guess what happened? No teachers died, no kids died. And while nothing bad happened something great did....they were in school learning full time. Millions of other kids got screwed.
This article comments on the NY Times article regarding the damage caused to student education by school closures.
"Were many of these problems avoidable? The evidence suggests that they were. Extended school closures appear to have done much more harm than good, and many school administrators probably could have recognized as much by the fall of 2020."
"On average, students who attended in-person school for nearly all of 2020-21 lost about 20 percent worth of a typical school year’s math learning during the study’s two-year window…
But students who stayed home for most of 2020-21 fared much worse. On average, they lost the equivalent of about 50 percent of a typical school year’s math learning during the study’s two-year window…"
@Dad was a cheerleader for school closures.
And yet by May or June 2020 we already KNEW that there was no risk to kids or college students. The data clearly showed that. And yet places like CA closed most if not all universities to in person learning. A substantial percentage of elementary and high schools were closed.
And we knew they were fine and would be fine.
My kids like most lost their spring semester in 2020. Fortunately they were back in school full time in the fall. Guess what happened? No teachers died, no kids died. And while nothing bad happened something great did....they were in school learning full time. Millions of other kids got screwed.
Desert Hound
DA
By the way at the bottom of the article above, they have posts/comments from critics of DeSantis regarding him opening schools in the fall of 2020. As you read those....remember some on this board acted in a similar manner claiming it was a bad idea to open schools.
Hüsker Dü
DA
Said it was a bad idea or said it was best to leave it up to the local school boards?
Desert Hound
DA
I guess your take is it was a good idea to screw kids and keep the schools closed?
I think the pro-school closure groups fell into two categories 1) those that wanted to exploit Covid to further there own interests or narrative (like school unions), and 2) those that were overcome by their own fear of Covid. I can't imagine that anyone supported closures because they were too stupid to understand the negative impacts to children. That takes a whole other level of stupid.As time goes on...we are seeing the disastrous consequences of lockdowns, school closures, nonsense rules, etc.
This article comments on the NY Times article regarding the damage caused to student education by school closures.
"Were many of these problems avoidable? The evidence suggests that they were. Extended school closures appear to have done much more harm than good, and many school administrators probably could have recognized as much by the fall of 2020."
"On average, students who attended in-person school for nearly all of 2020-21 lost about 20 percent worth of a typical school year’s math learning during the study’s two-year window…
But students who stayed home for most of 2020-21 fared much worse. On average, they lost the equivalent of about 50 percent of a typical school year’s math learning during the study’s two-year window…"
@Dad was a cheerleader for school closures.
And yet by May or June 2020 we already KNEW that there was no risk to kids or college students. The data clearly showed that. And yet places like CA closed most if not all universities to in person learning. A substantial percentage of elementary and high schools were closed.
And we knew they were fine and would be fine.
My kids like most lost their spring semester in 2020. Fortunately they were back in school full time in the fall. Guess what happened? No teachers died, no kids died. And while nothing bad happened something great did....they were in school learning full time. Millions of other kids got screwed.
Desert Hound
DA
It is exactly those 2 categories that people fell into. Category 2 were unwilling or too scared to look at the actual data.
or looked at the data and had incredibly low risk tolerances. You remember the argument that near zero is not absolute zero.