Vaccine

Grace T. said:
That will gradually reduce too as we run out of immunonaive people and the vaccinated come down with it. The death/hospitalization waves will go lower and lower with each spike but people (like they do with flu, adenovirus, other coronavirus and even the common cold) will always die from it particularly at old age. The updated boosters will help…likely updated each year for at least a while…with new variants it looks like it’s already running away from these boosters even before being released. Eventually we’ll stop counting which is why we don’t notice the others as much except in a bad flu/corona seasons

the thing that I think everyone (both on team panic and team reality) got wrong at various points was how long this would all go on
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Ps one of my besties attended a pharma conference in Vegas. Stressful…1/3 was over covid…1/3 was still panicked and cautious but forced to go into close situations with indoor dining. About 10% of the conference at best guess has come down with the Rona post trip (prob undercount since not everyone tested) the vast majority with mild allergies so far all non serious

pps the most scary part of my vacay was the possibility of testing positive and getting stuck abroad and travel insurance only covers part of it
 
Grace T. said:
That will gradually reduce too as we run out of immunonaive people and the vaccinated come down with it. The death/hospitalization waves will go lower and lower with each spike but people (like they do with flu, adenovirus, other coronavirus and even the common cold) will always die from it particularly at old age. The updated boosters will help…likely updated each year for at least a while…with new variants it looks like it’s already running away from these boosters even before being released. Eventually we’ll stop counting which is why we don’t notice the others as much except in a bad flu/corona seasons

the thing that I think everyone (both on team panic and team reality) got wrong at various points was how long this would all go on
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Well, we told by teachers on here to stop complaining and just dip into your rainy day funds. One cruel soul said if you dont have a rainy day fund then your stupid. Teachers went all in and now look at what we go on our hands. I am so grateful my kid is out of this system in two months, Yippie horray, Look at what teachers have to preach today to keep their jobs and look at what they have to inject into their arms to get their jobs? This is ass bat crap. I also heard that snakes were used in the great mix of all sorts of things. I would not support boosters Grace T but it's free world and we all have freedom to speak, right?
 
Grace T. said:
That will gradually reduce too as we run out of immunonaive people and the vaccinated come down with it. The death/hospitalization waves will go lower and lower with each spike but people (like they do with flu, adenovirus, other coronavirus and even the common cold) will always die from it particularly at old age. The updated boosters will help…likely updated each year for at least a while…with new variants it looks like it’s already running away from these boosters even before being released. Eventually we’ll stop counting which is why we don’t notice the others as much except in a bad flu/corona seasons

the thing that I think everyone (both on team panic and team reality) got wrong at various points was how long this would all go on
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Does "team reality" still include those advocating bullshit cures?
 
espola said:
Does "team reality" still include those advocating bullshit cures?
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”team reality” kind of has two camps.

One group got their shots, wore their masks, and moved their social life outdoors. The people who kept their dinner reservation, but asked for an outdoor table. Basically trying to do what they could to help, within reason.

Then there are the people who spent the whole time pretending that nothing was happening. These are the ones who held private dinner parties while restaurants were closed, took multiple out of state trips as soon as they could, only wore a mask when absolutely required, and never got vaccinated.

The first group was pretty realistic. The second group was not.

And, if you want to point out that certain politicians have more in common with group 2 than group 1, you’re right.
 
Multi Sport said:
And what's a bullshit cure? A vaccine that's not as effective as originally thought?
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These guys are something else. I'm going to meet with my old minister friend and ask him to come on the forum and share about how wrong he was for pushing the jab on his church and his family. I kid you not, his sister is dead because she was pressured by her brother and her boss to follow the rules like the rest. Dude used scriptures like, "Obey your leaders, they keep watch over you. Obey them so their work will be a joy." Or, "obey the governing authorities, obey the master when his eye is and not on you." The latest I heard is their finding "snake" dna, besides all the other crap. Wow, this is weird stuff were debating in 2022. I knew abortion hit curds of the soul but this is going way deeper and more sinister. We got monsters among us!!
 
dad4 said:
”team reality” kind of has two camps.

One group got their shots, wore their masks, and moved their social life outdoors. The people who kept their dinner reservation, but asked for an outdoor table. Basically trying to do what they could to help, within reason.

Then there are the people who spent the whole time pretending that nothing was happening. These are the ones who held private dinner parties while restaurants were closed, took multiple out of state trips as soon as they could, only wore a mask when absolutely required, and never got vaccinated.

The first group was pretty realistic. The second group was not.

And, if you want to point out that certain politicians have more in common with group 2 than group 1, you’re right.
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Nice analysis, but it didn't answer the question about the bullshit cures. How can a group claim to be "reality" when part of its schtick includes fantasies?
 
espola said:
There's a couple more lies right there from the best-documented liar on the forum.
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Espola, you sir are not being honest. You got played or played with the lairs that you covered for, that makes you a liar with them unless you come on here and agree your side cheated, spied and stole so much from so many Americans and that you're sorry.
 
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Here is someone who is HOT! I like Honest, Open and Transparent folks like her. People who share their truth up front to save others time and not have to guess what side of the spectrum they sit on politically. I know folks who left spouse over the jab and I know people who got divorced from their employer of 24 years because they told the boss to go fly a kite. Fence sitters just sit and obey and stay away from the poo poo on both sides. Must be real nice sitting high on the perch looking down on all the shit.....lol!!! Thanks for sitting and not helping clean up the shit. I want to play on both sides without the poop. Get you poop scooper and meet me when your ready to clean up the shit!!!
 
espola said:
Nice analysis, but it didn't answer the question about the bullshit cures. How can a group claim to be "reality" when part of its schtick includes fantasies?
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Who here is promoting, or has promoted, the use of animal formulations of Ivermectin?

Ivermectin intended for human use is safe in prescribed dosages. There is anecdotal evidence from treating physicians that Ivermectin has helped in the treatment of Covid. The limited current studies have run the gamut of effective, not effective. Cherry pick your study if you wish.

Is Ivermectin designed for human use effective against Covid? Debatable, but far from bullshit. There is way more hyperbole about the effectiveness of the vaccines, but again that doesn't make vaccines bullshit.
 
watfly said:
Who here is promoting, or has promoted, the use of animal formulations of Ivermectin?

Ivermectin intended for human use is safe in prescribed dosages. There is anecdotal evidence from treating physicians that Ivermectin has helped in the treatment of Covid. The limited current studies have run the gamut of effective, not effective. Cherry pick your study if you wish.

Is Ivermectin designed for human use effective against Covid? Debatable, but far from bullshit. There is way more hyperbole about the effectiveness of the vaccines, but again that doesn't make vaccines bullshit.
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Also HCQ and remdesvir. I remember Grace quoted a study examined in one of the videos from the English nursing professor that showed remdesvir had better results than placebo in a double-blind study. I commented at the time that if one looked at the raw data presented in the study, the placebo group had better results than the untreated public. That suggests that we could just hand out sugar pills or saline injections without the risk of any dangerous side effects, and much cheaper, too.
 
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espola said:
Also HCQ and remdesvir. I remember Grace quoted a study examined in one of the videos from the English nursing professor that showed remdesvir had better results than placebo in a double-blind study. I commented at the time that if one looked at the raw data presented in the study, the placebo group had better results than the untreated public. That suggests that we could just hand out sugar pills or saline injections without the risk of any dangerous side effects, and much cheaper, too.
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Africa has no issue with the Covid, why? I know why, do you? Speak truth to us for once, please..... I am authentic, that means I speak truth from my soul. That is why so many respect me. They don't always agree with me, but when they do, we drink to it :) I speak from the heart and you lie from your heart. I also know that you were forced to go to church and church camp as a youth and if I guess right, you were forced fed the bible and you didn;t like that. I went to college with many guys like you. I knew girls too that were forced to read the bible and obey it's every word. It's not right and I feel for you in that way. I also think you have passwords to other avatars that are shared with other that you hide in the dark with and behind a screen name. It's too bad because you have some experience that could help the girls out and make this planet more balanced. I wish you the best and I hope you see how wrong at least you have been about everything politcally the last 6 years. I mean everything. Grace T schooled you because she is fair and honest and does not pick a side. She brings the sides together and then we decide what side to pick.
 
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