Trump was pressured to tell the mob to go home. Left to his own devices I don't think he ever would have. He was loving the fact that his supporters would storm the Capitol for him.
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Agree. But that’s not what was alleged (a sort of willful and knowing negligence) but was alleged was that he invited an insurrection (which the facts simply don’t show). They could have charged him before he left office as you said but again it would require some testimony from those around him and would have raised uncomfortable questions about the office of capitol police. And again, just because you don’t have the evidence to impeach him doesn’t mean it wasn’t morally wrong. The legal political and moral are all different things.
thirteenknots
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What Truth have YOU ever posted.
"Litigated"?
I already admitted that you were correct.
Now you can admit that t was the worst thing that ever happened to the GOP (and after Nixon and Agnew that's a true accomplishment)
Now THAT'S trolling. Grace please take note.
kickingandscreaming
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I have to laugh at the "lab leak debunked" supporter is now using obstruction as a basis for "there must be something to hide". What a worthless, partisan troll.
Hüsker Dü
DA
“You gotta fight like hell or you won’t have a country!”
You forgot hoover
I disagree he was the worst. I certainly think he was flawed. The politics of the 20th century were elites on the outside trying to supplant the white shoe often racist oligarchs of the white shoe republicans. See auntie Maime for a representation. The politics of the 21st century are the peons rebelling against the meritocratic elites. That rebellion has taken place on the left and right. Romney/Clinton/bushes are the archetypes of what they are rebelling against. Trumps use to the gop is he advances this dynamic. I agree he was also severely flawed.
I recall someone posted clips of ds using the same “fight like hell” response. If that’s your smoking gun it’s legally a poor one.
The biggest issue I have about the 2nd impeachment is the "trial" was done before the investigation. Flies in the face of the concept of innocent until proven guilty.
“Stay in the street and get more confrontational”
Harding was worse than Hoover. Hoover was an honest man of principles in office at the wrong time.
T was the worst President ever. His most fervent supporters (sons, daughter, Rudy, pillowguy) are all now laughingstocks.
In 2018, Democrat Rep. Maxine Watters said she had “no sympathy” for Trump administration officials who defended Trump’s “zero tolerance” immigration policy. She urged her supporters to “absolutely harass them” when appearing in public.
“They’re not going to be able to go to a restaurant, they’re not going to be able to stop at a gas station, they’re not going to be able to shop at a department store,” Waters said at the time. “The people are going to turn on them, they’re going to protest, they’re going to absolutely harass them.”
On March 20, 2018, Joe Biden told supporters he would have taken then-President Trump “behind the gym and beat the hell out of him” if they were in high school.
I don't belong to any political party, a decision I reached after trying out several. My partisanship position is anti-trumpist. What's yours?
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They were rushed. They couldn’t make the deadline before he left office. They didn’t want it clogging up Biden’s first 100 days.
Biden could certainly use a Trump impeachment trial right now
maybe They can impeach him again
I don't know that that would even be a big enough distraction from President Schleprock's policies.
Why bother? The DOJ and NY AG are giving him enough trouble. There is a possibility that the "richest President ever" may need to beg a judge for a Public Defender.
He got "Coviditist" and now is a full member of the Covidians.
Grace T, were all flawed, let's be fair to Mr. Trump. At least with T, we all saw his flaws out in the open. These people were dealing with, they have no heart and do not play by the rules. They hide & lie all the time and will spy on you and even kill you to STFU!!! They cheat too. They treat women and kids like shit and as pawns. Horrible people we've dealing with on the this planet. I love you Grace T. The TRUTH might come out on Presidents Day
Notice no more mask or jab talk? I talked to a buddy today and he's already back to normal. He acts as if nothing took place the last 5 years. High up in health field and boy let me tell you, he's double his income. His wife and him made over $700,000 in 2021 and he thinks he might hit $1,000,000 this year. He told me to move out of the state. He loves me and thinks I'm better off in Texas. He took three shots by Wuhan and two flu shots in last year in half. Dude is not the same. He used to be sick once or twice a year for a few days. Guess what? He's been sick so many times I lost count. His last episode was over 10 days. He's fighting the truth so much because he wants normal.Bill Gates says Covid risks have ‘dramatically reduced’ but another pandemic is coming
Bill Gates/Net worth
131.4 billion USD
He's coming out with a new "beyond meat" burger that is beyond anything anyone has ingested into their body before. Metaverse is waiting to take you. What a planet to be on right now. Freedom or Metaverse. Love or Hate. Light or Darkness.
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It's just one part of the ongoing lawfare but in this context interesting that just yesterday a judge ruled in the ongoing civil conspiracy suit re several 1/6 figures that Trump (but not Jr. , Guilliani, Brooks, etc) remains on the hook:
"Immediately before directing them to the Capitol, he told rally-goers that they would need to “fight like hell and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.” When those supporters did “fight like hell,” just as he had told them to, the President did not demand they act “peacefully and patriotically.” He instead tweeted that “Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country.”.....These other statements by the President stand in stark contrast to his passing observation that rally-goers would soon be “peacefully and patriotically” marching to the Capitol."
so, at least for Trump, this heads to discovery. To which, re civil conspiracy, the judge noted.
"....the President’s confidant, Roger Stone. Stone posted on Parler in late December that he had met with the President “to ensure that Donald Trump continues as our president.” Shortly thereafter, Stone spoke with Tarrio, and later he used the Oath Keepers as his security detail for the January 6 Rally. The court does not rely on these allegations to establish the President’s knowledge of the Proud Boys or the Oath Keepers. Other alleged facts make that inference plausible. That said, Stone’s connections to both the President and these groups in the days leading up to January 6th is a well-pleaded fact. Discovery might prove that connection to be an important one."