Vaccine

[kickingandscreaming]

I think its lame that she was suspended and I certainly wouldn't support her being canceled. I'm not in favor of censorship regardless of where its coming from and don't believe in a "pound of flesh" mentality.

If we suspended someone every time they said something stupid, Joy Behar would never see the screen...oh wait, maybe I could be convinced that censorship is good. My wife hate watches the View, and then will show me the lowlights on occasion. I'm dumber from just watching the clips.

The "cure" can do more harm than the act. We need a lot more of the approach below and a lot less of canceling if we are ever going to overcome the divisiveness in our country.

Eagles' DeSean Jackson is taking Julian Edelman up on offer to educate each other

Looks like DeSean Jackson is taking up Julian Edelman on his offer. Edelman, who is Jewish, posted on social media Thursday that he hoped to arrange an educational exchange program where he took Jackson to the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C., and Jackson took him to...

www.nbcsports.com

 

[Hüsker Dü]

Now this is funny!

Dr. Anthony Fauci's Spit-Roasting of Rand Paul Was Utterly Refreshing

Not enough politicians get called out on these grounds in official settings.

www.esquire.com

 

[Hüsker Dü]

I should add...or if evidence comes up that you lied the first time you answered the question.

I feel you are the victim of misinformation. Lied?

 

[Desert Hound]

We have already seen studies showing this.

There will be more to come.

People like dad...hardest hit.

There is one thing the study is wrong about. It did have a large impact...on business, peoples savings, and education.

In terms of stopping the spread and reducing deaths? Not so much.


Lockdowns in the U.S. and Europe had little or no impact in reducing deaths from COVID-19, according to a new analysis by researchers at Johns Hopkins University.


The lockdowns during the early phase of the pandemic in 2020 reduced COVID-19 mortality by about 0.2%, said the broad review of multiple scientific studies.


“We find no evidence that lockdowns, school closures, border closures, and limiting gatherings have had a noticeable effect on COVID-19 mortality,” the researchers wrote.

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And they even mention COST/BENEFIT...who would have thought that was important? Bueller?

“Such a standard benefit-cost calculation leads to a strong conclusion: lockdowns should be rejected out of hand as a pandemic policy instrument,” the paper concluded.

Lockdowns had little or no impact on COVID-19 deaths, new study shows

Lockdowns in the U.S. and Europe had little or no impact in reducing deaths from COVID-19, according to a new analysis by researchers at Johns Hopkins University.

www.washingtontimes.com

 

[Desert Hound]

And that's why it's laughable.

And those same artists pulling their catalog at Spotify remain with Apple who does HUGE biz with the Chinese. The same ChiComs that have put millions into camps for re-education.

If you are going to stand on principle do it for the millions oppressed by a dictatorship.

Others should do the same. Lebron? NBA? etc.

 

[watfly]

Do you begrudge a man standing up for his and his families personal safety while Paul plays to the lunatic fringe?
“What happens when he gets out and accuses me of things that are completely untrue,” the top health official said, “is that kindles the crazies out there, and I have threats upon my life, harassment of my family and my children with obscene phone calls because people are lying about me.”

You're confusing standing up for something with lying to avoid accountability.

So its Rand's fault that people are phoning in death threats? Who is responsible for the death threats to Tim Scott and other politicians from both sides of the aisle? You seem to be following the playbook of the left's victim mentality. You clearly illustrate it here and in your posts about your neighbor that was killed during the Jan 6 riot.

 

[Desert Hound]

I think its lame that she was suspended and I certainly wouldn't support her being canceled. I'm not in favor of censorship regardless of where its coming from and don't believe in a "pound of flesh" mentality.

If we suspended someone every time they said something stupid, Joy Behar would never see the screen...oh wait, maybe I could be convinced that censorship is good. My wife hate watches the View, and then will show me the lowlights on occasion. I'm dumber from just watching the clips.

I am not for suspensions.

However since Whoopi and others on her side do advocate people being censored or shut down, they also should be forced to live by their own rules. Maybe once they realize the rules are silly we can move away from them.

 

[watfly]

The "cure" can do more harm than the act. We need a lot more of the approach below and a lot less of canceling if we are ever going to overcome the divisiveness in our country.

Eagles' DeSean Jackson is taking Julian Edelman up on offer to educate each other

Looks like DeSean Jackson is taking up Julian Edelman on his offer. Edelman, who is Jewish, posted on social media Thursday that he hoped to arrange an educational exchange program where he took Jackson to the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C., and Jackson took him to...

www.nbcsports.com

We are so quick to be outraged and to silence and cancel, when we should be debating instead. Whoopi's and Rogan's comments would have been a perfect opportunity to do so.

Again this all comes out of the fear of an opposing opinion.

 

[watfly]

I am not for suspensions.

However since Whoopi and others on her side do advocate people being censored or shut down, they also should be forced to live by their own rules. Maybe once they realize the rules are silly we can move away from them.

I understand your position but I was always taught "two wrongs don't make a right".

 

[Lion Eyes]

I feel you are the victim of misinformation. Lied?

Still swilling the KoolAid, are ya?

 

[watfly]

CNN needs to take care of its own business instead of criticizing other networks. What's that saying about "glass houses"?

CNN chief Jeff Zucker exits over sexual relationship with top executive

CNN chief Jeff Zucker left his job after his longtime relationship with executive Allison Gollust was uncovered during the Chris Cuomo investigation.

www.usatoday.com

 

[dad4]

Still swilling the KoolAid, are ya?

Swigging. It means to drink.

Swill means to wash with an excess of water. So, you might swill the KoolAid pitcher, but you would not swill the KoolAid itself.

Perhaps we can swig some iced tea and wring our laundry while pondering how people can think they are smarter than NIH and CDC, yet still have trouble with definitions of small words.

 

[watfly]

Swigging. It means to drink.

Swill means to wash with an excess of water. So, you might swill the KoolAid pitcher, but you would not swill the KoolAid itself.

Perhaps we can swig some iced tea and wring our laundry while pondering how people can think they are smarter than NIH and CDC, yet still have trouble with definitions of small words.

Swill also means "drink (something) greedily or in large quantities."

Can we add definition of "swill" to another thread with the definition of "varsity", ya know "Off-Topic: Definitions".

 

[dad4]

Swill also means "drink (something) greedily or in large quantities."

Can we add definition of "swill" to another thread with the definition of "varsity", ya know "Off-Topic: Definitions".

I just get tired of the constant drumbeat of “if you care whether other people get covid, you must be stupid.”

Maybe I should ignore the right wing loons on this thread and swill some beer with my old varsity teammates from college.

 

[thirteenknots]

Swigging. It means to drink.

Swill means to wash with an excess of water. So, you might swill the KoolAid pitcher, but you would not swill the KoolAid itself.

Perhaps we can swig some iced tea and wring our laundry while pondering how people can think they are smarter than NIH and CDC, yet still have trouble with definitions of small words.

swill
[swil]

VERB
swilling (present participle)

1. BRITISH
   wash or rinse out (an area or container) by pouring large amounts of water or other liquid over or into it.
   "I swilled out the mug"
   synonyms:
   wash · sluice · clean out · flush · rinse · bathe · cleanse · drench
   • cause (liquid) to swirl around in a container or cavity.
     "she gently swilled her brandy around her glass"
   • (of a liquid) move or splash about over a surface.
     "the icy water swilled around us"
2. informal
   drink (something) greedily or in large quantities.
   "they whiled away their evening swilling pints of beer" ·
   [more]
   synonyms:
   drink · quaff · swallow · down · gulp down · drain · guzzle · imbibe · sup · slurp · consume

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Maybe you should do just a little research before hitting " Post Reply ".

Lioneyes used it correctly ya " wanker ".

I just get tired of the constant drumbeat of “if you care whether other people get covid, you must be stupid.”

Maybe I should ignore the right wing loons on this thread and swill some beer with my old varsity teammates from college.

Maybe, just maybe you should just do a little scholastic " Research ".

 

[watfly]

I just get tired of the constant drumbeat of “if you care whether other people get covid, you must be stupid.”

Maybe I should ignore the right wing loons on this thread and swill some beer with my old varsity teammates from college.

And we get tired of the constant drumbeat of "someone else is responsible for my health", oddly children in most cases. Now that we've both misquoted each other and I've violated my "two wrongs don't make a right" mantra, I think I will do as you suggest and swill a beer. Cheers.

 

[Hüsker Dü]

You're confusing standing up for something with lying to avoid accountability.

So its Rand's fault that people are phoning in death threats? Who is responsible for the death threats to Tim Scott and other politicians from both sides of the aisle? You seem to be following the playbook of the left's victim mentality. You clearly illustrate it here and in your posts about your neighbor that was killed during the Jan 6 riot.

What did he lie about? And you are confusing me with Dr. Fauci’s words. Also why do you think my feeling bad for well meaning rubes is somehow playing the victim card. I’m not a victim she was/they are/are you?

If others are receiving death threats that is a different situation. Bring everything you can into a debate muddies the waters it doesn’t prove anything. Stay on subject.

 

[azsnowrider]

I understand your position but I was always taught "two wrongs don't make a right".

Unfortunately, Whoopie has more than 2 wrongs. Sister act 1&2, Jumpin Jack Flash, Ghost, Star trek, The View, her stand up act, Ted Danson and the infamous Roast, etc I kid, I kid, But seriously Sharon Osbourne was fired from the Talk over defending someone's right to have an opinion. Why does Whoopie get a pass?

 

[Hüsker Dü]

And we get tired of the constant drumbeat of "someone else is responsible for my health", oddly children in most cases. Now that we've both misquoted each other and I've violated my "two wrongs don't make a right" mantra, I think I will do as you suggest and swill a beer. Cheers.

Responsibility, just be responsible. Searching for opinions to back ones need to care only about themselves is not being responsible. I’m tired of the constant, “BUT! BUT! BUT!” Regarding the worlds leading experts best, at the moment, assessments. To then only to offer up obscure opinions and spun numbers that are easily refuted. Like any post lying eyes ever wasted our time with. I have had a few stalkers in here that I suppose were hurt deeply, he was one of the first almost a decade ago.

 

[watfly]

What did he lie about? And you are confusing me with Dr. Fauci’s words. Also why do you think my feeling bad for well meaning rubes is somehow playing the victim card. I’m not a victim she was/they are/are you?

If others are receiving death threats that is a different situation. Bring everything you can into a debate muddies the waters it doesn’t prove anything. Stay on subject.

In Major Shift, NIH Admits Funding Risky Virus Research in Wuhan

A spokesman for Dr. Fauci says he has been “entirely truthful,” but a new letter belatedly acknowledging the National Institutes of Health’s support for virus-enhancing research adds more heat to the ongoing debate over whether a lab leak could have sparked the pandemic.

www.vanityfair.com

And no, you muddied the waters when you even brought the subject of death threats into the debate. Don't blame me for what you brought into the conversation. You seem to have this accountability disconnect that's pervasive in your posts, whether its you individually, or blaming someone's good faith opinion for the action of others.

I don't think you actually believe in censorship (despite your comments), and I know you don't believe in government mandates. Again we're on the same page, just with a different approach. I'm no fan of Rand Paul, but nothing he said was out of line, annoying maybe. If we were to silence all grandstanding politicians they'd have nothing to say.